Brexit - The UK and the EU

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Fwiffo

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The UK and EU agree terms for Brexit transition period

No hard border in Northern Ireland. Anyone else want to be on that side of the soft border?

"Among other issues the two sides had to negotiate differences for the transition period were what role the European Court of Justice had in the UK, whether the UK could negotiate future trade deals with non-EU countries during it, as well as the continuing issues of Gibraltar post-Brexit."

Continuing issues of Gibraltar?
 

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Brexit: 'People's vote' campaign group launched

People's vote? Who voted in the last referendum? Humans who weren't people?
It's the Stay group's attempt at a redo.

Commenting, Tom Brufatto, Chair of Britain for Europe, which is supporting the People’s Vote campaign, said:

“The People’s Vote campaign is clear. The terms of Brexit should not be stitched up behind closed doors by politicians and foisted on the country. The people must have a say, and that means a People’s Vote.

They think the people should be able to say "yes, we understand that we democratically voted to leave but we should be able to vote on the formal terms of the leaving plan so we can maybe force a mulligan or a redo because when people voted to go, they actually meant stay or were too stupid to understand what leaving meant. We want these chuckleheads to have a hand in government policy. Ta."

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/launch_of_the_new_national_people_s_vote_campaign
 

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You are either in, or you are out, you cannot have an a la carte membership of the club. Everybody who voted knew this, they were repeatedly told so, The government wheeled out every senior politician they could find, from around the world to put the frighteners on, and still lost.

These people need to stop with this narrative, not only are they wrong, they are dangerous because their narrative is fundamentally anti-democratic.

Lets just keep having referendums until we get the answer that we want, is the mindset of a dictatorship, albeit in the EU context a soft one.
 

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You are either in, or you are out, you cannot have an a la carte membership of the club. Everybody who voted knew this, they were repeatedly told so, The government wheeled out every senior politician they could find, from around the world to put the frighteners on, and still lost.

These people need to stop with this narrative, not only are they wrong, they are dangerous because their narrative is fundamentally anti-democratic.

Lets just keep having referendums until we get the answer that we want, is the mindset of a dictatorship, albeit in the EU context a soft one.
The problems with referendums is that they give hope for do-overs at a later date. Very Quebec separatism mentality.

But this one is too rich.
 

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Leavers will not move to unseat May and she knows it.

ERG and Rees-Mogg are all talk and no action.
Mogg is not so powerful in the party and if he makes a blatant move to oust May, he will stand zero chance of being the next PM or leader of the Conservatives. He has no option but to work behind the scenes and keep pushing the envelope as he did last week and then deals behind close doors before public announcements of support. The only option he has is to keep boxing her in by her own promises.
 

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Looks like Brexit is scuppered. It will now play out: no deal in November, goes to the the Commons and then they vote to continue as is ad infinitum under the yoke of the Brussels oligarchy. It will spell the end of the Tories as a effective fighting force and will never be trusted again.
 
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