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I have a lot of button down collars for work.
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Okay, Streetlight. So why did you stop wearing OCBDs and why the possible return?I could return to it.
Worn with or without a tie?I have a lot of button down collars for work.
One of the key talking points in relation to button down shirts is collar roll , and that in many of those produced today the roll is non-existent.Shirt collars. Do you have a preference?
Since the age of about 14 I have had s preference for button down collared shirts. I feel they component my face and body shape and look good with or without ties. I do have many non- button down, but I feel something is not quite right if I wear them.
What about other posters? Are you fans of the button-down?
Without generally, but I can always go for a OCBD and knit tie lookWorn with or without a tie?
One of the key talking points in relation to button down shirts is collar roll , and that in many of those produced today the roll is non-existent.
In my humble opinion, having a roll is more critical when the shirt is worn without a tie. With a tie too big a roll draws attention away from other aspects of the outfit and the overall look.
Pocket parrots can do the same thing. The tie ought to be a man's bit of decoration and not a pocket hanky.
One nice thing about a tie with a button down is that the collar effectively cradles the knot of the tie and create a more pleasing picture than a non-button down collar does. A spread collar in particular presents the tie knot as a separate entity. Without a pullover or a jacket, and when worn with just a shirt , this is not so obvious since then the eyes are drawn to the tie's entirety and not merely its knot.Without generally, but I can always go for a OCBD and knit tie look
In both cases just for a change, I would never wear with a tie though. I've been in John Simon's shop a couple of times and some did catch my eye. My current favourite shirts are oxford cloth non-button downs, great texture, so I'm halfway there.Okay, Streetlight. So why did you stop wearing OCBDs and why the possible return?
As I argue in the post above this one, a button down with the right tie can produce a visual work of art. But we also need to consider face shape. I think a button down can slim down a full face and appear to reduce shoulder width. A spread collar has the opposite effect.In both cases just for a change, I would never wear with a tie though. I've been in John Simon's shop a couple of times and some did catch my eye. My current favourite shirts are oxford cloth non-button downs, great texture, so I'm halfway there.I
Who's your shirtmaker?It really comes down to matching face shape, tie knot/material and collar spread
Harvie & HudsonWho's your shirtmaker?
Bespoke only?Harvie & Hudson
Yessir.Bespoke only?
Think spread, cut-away, tennis, etc, are best with ties, or with a blazer. A T&A collar looks particularly good in these cases. But take away the tie and/or blazer...Shirt collars. Do you have a preference?
Since the age of about 14 I have had a preference for button down collared shirts. I feel they compliment my face and body shape and look good with or without ties. I do have many non- button down, but I feel something is not quite right if I wear them.
What about other posters? Are you fans of the button-down?
Without generally, but I can always go for a OCBD and knit tie look
They are. And the OCBD is really the only shirt that gives you that double benefit.Both are classic looks.
For those too lazy to click.China MtM with a C23 baller button down for the big Italian roll:
Interesting.Something different yet similar, and not far from John Simon's
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This is what the manufacturer is saying regarding the khakis:These Andover Shop Khakis are being advertised and discussed on Ivy Style. They are $235. For me that's a lot too pricey. Perhaps FXH could pull the trigger on those.
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Of course it is well known to those who have made a study of these things that the very act of putting on Ivy clothing imbues the wearer with knightly qualities, of honour, decency, piousness and thriftiness (apart from when you are spending large amount in J Press and charging it to Pop’s account) … or so I’ve been told on Ivy Style.On the Ivy Style site a poster claims that Ivy style of dressing 'matches a mindset '.
'Wonderful photos indeed. Classic style, classic dignified thinking.( Ivy Style )is a style that matches a mindset."
To me, although that sounds possibly over the top somewhat, unless we are simply followers of current fashion, the fact that we choose a certain style of shoe, shirt, suit and so on must indicate that we are thinking consciously or unconsciously about the impact the clothes will have on us and on others. But is this of any real significance.
Although you intend this as sarcasm, is it possible to discount the effect that matter has on mind?the very act of putting on Ivy clothing imbues the wearer with knightly qualities, of honour, decency, piousness and thriftiness.
The previously invisible black holes in space can now be observed. However, they had an existence prior to this.Nothing exists until it is observed...
Are we not knights of the realm in style?
How you are dressed definitely has an effect on others, you get treated differently when you wear a suit and your interest in clothes can rub off on people you mix with. But putting on nice clothes doesn’t make you a decent, honourable gentleman, as we know some the dirtiest thieves and double dealers out there wear suits, or did before business casual came in.Are we not knights of the realm in style?
And we mustn't forget that the knights of the realm were unavoidably dirty dealers as were ( and still are sometimes) their royal bosses.How you are dressed definitely has an effect on others, you get treated differently when you wear a suit and your interest in clothes can rub off on people you mix with. But putting on nice clothes doesn’t make you a decent, honourable gentleman, as we know some the dirtiest thieves and double dealers out there wear suits, or did before business casual came in.
Although you intend this is sarcasm, is it possible to discount the effect that matter has on mind?
Every choice we make is the result of a dynamic dialectical interaction between mind and matter. And both will be altered by that interaction although the extent of the change may not be immediately observable.
Given this , crude statements such as 'they are just clothes ' are ultimately false. Nothing is ever 'just' anything, maybe not even nothingness itself.
Trying to encourage Formby and Belinmad.The dialectic has entered the chat!
I've just had a more detailed look at the products. I'm not in the market for clothes at the moment.Something different yet similar, and not far from John Simon's
Anglo-Italian | Online Store
Anglo-Italian marries the ease of soft Italian construction with the gravity of the English palette. Made-To-Measure and Bespoke Tailoring lies at our core, representing a mix of the craft, history and culture which means so much to us.angloitalian.com
The latter.1966: Ivy with some attitude:
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(Or maybe an outtake from the first Scooby Doo and Archie and Jughead crossover film?)