All About Watches

formby002 said:
For me, the finest dress watches tend to be made by JLC.
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Ah Jaeger the” inculture” as I nicknamed it, sure I know it, but not by the JLC letters, nice watches.

Was a jewlery on my area who got those on the vitrine, but the ones I just watched on the web looks cloned from Zenith.

Personally as I hate sports, I only like dress 1930´s looking watches, hate metal ones as submariner and so, tacky stuff.

As suits and cinema, all the good stuff comes from the 30-50s

I got a Longines Lindbergh reedition of classic one, 3000 euros, sold when I became a lumpen.

Same with a 7 grand IWC portuguesse white and black and same with other IWC more classic yet.
 
Lumpen said:
Ah Jaeger the” inculture” as I nicknamed it, sure I know it, but not by the JLC letters, nice watches.

Was a jewlery on my area who got those on the vitrine, but the ones I just watched on the web looks cloned from Zenith.

Personally as I hate sports, I only like dress 1930´s looking watches, hate metal ones as submariner and so, tacky stuff.

As suits and cinema, all the good stuff comes from the 30-50s

I got a Longines Lindbergh reedition of classic one, 3000 euros, sold when I became a lumpen.

Same with a 7 grand IWC portuguesse white and black and same with other IWC more classic yet.
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The JLC Reverso's are still classics and if you haven't got the cash, the Cartier Tank Solo is good for a similar look.

I hardly ever wear divers anymore, even as a weekend beater.

For the 30-50s look some of the Longines Heritage ranges can't be beat. The RAF Military watch I've got is great, even with faux patina, the dial and hands stand out and look pristine from afar. The new reedition of the Marine Nationale has the vintage vibe too. The limited edition Heritage Military 1938 is interesting too, it isn't selling on account its 43mm and I've seen one now for under two grand and so I'm tempted.
 
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Pimpernel Smith said:
The JLC Reverso's are still classics and if you haven't got the cash, the Cartier Tank Solo is good for a similar look.

I hardly ever wear divers anymore, even as a weekend beater.

For the 30-50s look some of the Longines Heritage ranges can't be beat. The RAF Military watch I've got is great, even with faux patina, the dial and hands stand out and look pristine from afar. The new reedition of the Marine Nationale has the vintage vibe too. The limited edition Heritage Military 1938 is interesting too, it isn't selling on account its 43mm and I've seen one now for under two grand and so I'm tempted.
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square watch?

not my taste either, very femenine.
 
Finally pulled the trigger on the Longines Heritage Military 1938:

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Got a good deal €750 off the retail price. It's not been selling well in the Dutch market, likely because of the oversize at 43mm. Which is as per the original. Not too big on my wrist.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
Finally pulled the trigger on the Longines Heritage Military 1938:

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Got a good deal €750 off the retail price. It's not been selling well in the Dutch market, likely because of the oversize at 43mm. Which is as per the original. Not too big on my wrist.
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Very clear and uncluttered. No unnecessary writing or logo.

Might change the strap in due course.
 
Sarto sent me this pic.

2011, Kiton shirt, Flannel English fabric jacket pinstripe jacket, IWC watch of his supaclassic style and jeans of course.

Now all took by the banksters and socialists.

We became good friends on the wellfare social services

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the other one he loved but sold was this one,


with brown strap: https://www.ebay.es/itm/274258460146
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Lumpen said:
Sarto sent me this pic.

2011, Kiton shirt, Flannel English fabric jacket pinstripe jacket, IWC watch of his supaclassic style and jeans of course.

Now all took by the banksters and socialists.

We became good friends on the wellfare social services

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the other one he loved but sold was this one,


with brown strap: https://www.ebay.es/itm/274258460146
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The Lindbergh watch has to be seen to be taken in. Photos don't do it justice, the dial and crown look busy. But you see someone wearing it and it's much more elegant and refined than a Art Deco era tool watch.
 
Journeyman said:
Please tell Sarto that his IWC watch looks comically large on wrist.

He should have saved money and bought a vintage IWC of a more reasonable size.
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The issue is that he looks as a Sissy narrow wrist almost as a dead bone with no flesh.

Anyway he learnt the lesson: better a vintage watch for the half of the cash as was learnt on his sinagoge.

Pennypinching is the key. Not making rich the bank to be a lumpen
 
We just found out where the missus keeps her watches: in the lollipop box. That's about 8 grands worth at full price of Omega, Tags and Rados.

Never wears any of them. The eldest fancied one of the Tags, missus put a stop to that. So there they all sit, lonely and unworn with a load of lollipops. Never to be worn ever again now that the missus has a Smartwatch.
 
Interesting story about a young man in Canberra (Australia) who taught himself watchmaking and is trying to make a watch entirely from scratch:

www.abc.net.au

A deadly illness left Reuben with time on his hands, and made him one of the world's few solo watchmakers

Reuben Schoots is building a mechanical watch entirely by hand — a feat accomplished only by a handful of people in the past century. But he is learning more than just a lost craft.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

There are no online tutorials or group classes for making a mechanical watch from scratch — even modern handmade watches are usually built by a team of up to 32 craftsmen, each with a specialisation in a particular part honed over a lifetime.

And the old books that could teach Reuben were intentionally obtuse.

His guide, a late master named George Daniels — famed for making complete watches by hand — would sometimes write a single instruction (like "make a flywheel") for a part that required more than 100 steps and three months of work to make.
 
Journeyman said:
Interesting story about a young man in Canberra (Australia) who taught himself watchmaking and is trying to make a watch entirely from scratch:

www.abc.net.au

A deadly illness left Reuben with time on his hands, and made him one of the world's few solo watchmakers

Reuben Schoots is building a mechanical watch entirely by hand — a feat accomplished only by a handful of people in the past century. But he is learning more than just a lost craft.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

There are no online tutorials or group classes for making a mechanical watch from scratch — even modern handmade watches are usually built by a team of up to 32 craftsmen, each with a specialisation in a particular part honed over a lifetime.

And the old books that could teach Reuben were intentionally obtuse.

His guide, a late master named George Daniels — famed for making complete watches by hand — would sometimes write a single instruction (like "make a flywheel") for a part that required more than 100 steps and three months of work to make.
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There's only so far you can go with trying to learning a skill on your own. He needs to study under a master. This is also why I suspect that he finds the old books obtuse.

I have several of Daniels books including his Watchmaking book which is comprehensive. Its not an easy read for the lay person or for someone who doesn't have a certain level of mathematical/mechanical engineering knowledge.

For example he shows you how to plot (and machine) the cam for the Equation of Time complication which is a familiar technique to those trained in technical drawing but not that of the general public.

Watching making requires both practical skills (those of a machinist) combined with the mathematical and design skills of a mechanical engineer.

Daniels designed a watch called the space traveller which required the input of a retired Cambridge mathematician (Statistics) Prof. Harry Daniels (no relation) to help develop the complication.

As an aside, there is an interesting clock outside the library of Corpus Christi College Cambridge (Corpus Clock)which has the worlds largest grasshopper escapement. The grasshopper escapement was developed by none other than George Harrison who is famous for his marine chronometers.
 
Rambo said:
Why do these people give a fuck about the box?
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It's all about an illusion of value.

Omega did the same thing some years back with the Speedy Pro, too. It changed the classification from the 3570 code that it had been using for years to something else; changed the box; added a strap and a loupe in the box, and increased by the price by about 15 - 20%. The watch didn't change at all - it was just the packaging and designation that changed but it came with a hefty price rise.

It's the same with "in-house" movements and display backs on watches - all too often there's very little purpose to it, but it looks and sounds good and allows brands to jack up prices because they have a watch with a display back and a "manufacture" movement.
 
Rambo said:
Why do these people give a fuck about the box?
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As watch boxes go that is a particularly good one. Including the pull-out weekend one demonstrated above.
Journeyman said:
It's all about an illusion of value.

Omega did the same thing some years back with the Speedy Pro, too. It changed the classification from the 3570 code that it had been using for years to something else; changed the box; added a strap and a loupe in the box, and increased by the price by about 15 - 20%. The watch didn't change at all - it was just the packaging and designation that changed but it came with a hefty price rise.

It's the same with "in-house" movements and display backs on watches - all too often there's very little purpose to it, but it looks and sounds good and allows brands to jack up prices because they have a watch with a display back and a "manufacture" movement.
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The Swatch Group decided that Omega would nudge into the traditional Rolex market and hence the hefty price increases this last decade. You could buy brand new Speedy's for just over three grand Euros back in the late 2000's.

I had the Speedmaster Redux which was 39mm and automatic, it seemed ideal for work with the smaller size, but it had a notoriously dodgy piggy-back movement which was not shock proof. I had it back to Omega three times under the guarantee and then got rid. They were nicely priced too at Euro 1,900.

Kingstonian said:
Because it’s like Christmas for grown ups.

There are a whole raft of videos on YouTube just about people opening stuff.
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Indeed, and it seems to be popular across several cultures and languages.
 
Dropbear said:
www.gearpatrol.com

Joe Biden Has Surprisingly Good Taste in Watches | Gear Patrol

At first glance, Biden's choice of watches portray him as just another Average Joe. But a closer look reveals the incoming president has an eye for the finer things.
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Interesting collection there. Those Seiko chronographs have a certain cache with Biden's generation. They had the first Quartz ones and my father had a couple of models before he went all Ebel (the most boring watches ever) and Cartiers.

The Vulcain watches are well under the radar now, historically the American President's watch of choice. I was going to buy one myself, the nearest dealer was in Antwerp and I pulled the trigger on a Fortis chronograph instead.

Let's hope his flirtation with an Apple watch isn't like my wife's being the ultimate exit watch.
 
Guys what do you think about smart watches compared to traditional watches?
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
Interesting collection there. Those Seiko chronographs have a certain cache with Biden's generation. They had the first Quartz ones and my father had a couple of models before he went all Ebel (the most boring watches ever) and Cartiers.

The Vulcain watches are well under the radar now, historically the American President's watch of choice. I was going to buy one myself, the nearest dealer was in Antwerp and I pulled the trigger on a Fortis chronograph instead.

Let's hope his flirtation with an Apple watch isn't like my wife's being the ultimate exit watch.
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You should have a look at a vintage 18ct gold Longines - maybe a calatrava.

They don’t seem hugely expensive compared to vintage stuff from the usual suspects. Provided you can get them serviced and don’t mind mechanical accuracy they look very classy and understated.

I don’t do mechanical myself - but if I did, Longines looks very good.
 
giovanni said:
Guys what do you think about smart watches compared to traditional watches?
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Modern watches are mostly just man jewellery these days - everyone is surrounded by clocks and carrying at least one mobile phone with a clock function.

I’m totally fine with that, but I can see how some people would value functionality over form. Not that I have seen anything in the smart watch that I feel I would need.
 
For me smart watches are a solution in search of a problem

Look it counts my steps per day (don’t care)
Look it measures my blood pressure (don’t care)
Look it tells me when I get a text (So? I have a phone for that)
Etc etc - I’ve yet to learn of a smart watch function that will make me think ‘cool, I’ve always wanted to be able to do that’ or ‘this will make my life so much easier’.
 
Kingstonian said:
You should have a look at a vintage 18ct gold Longines - maybe a calatrava.

They don’t seem hugely expensive compared to vintage stuff from the usual suspects. Provided you can get them serviced and don’t mind mechanical accuracy they look very classy and understated.

I don’t do mechanical myself - but if I did, Longines looks very good.
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Vintage Longines can be serviced in-house at Longines, they have a whole department dedicated to it.

Rather than vintage, I prefer their Heritage range. You're getting the vintage vibe with modern durability and movements.

Vintage Omega's are good value too.
 
Great White Snark said:
For me smart watches are a solution in search of a problem

Look it counts my steps per day (don’t care)
Look it measures my blood pressure (don’t care)
Look it tells me when I get a text (So? I have a phone for that)
Etc etc - I’ve yet to learn of a smart watch function that will make me think ‘cool, I’ve always wanted to be able to do that’ or ‘this will make my life so much easier’.
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That is ridiculously true. I know many people who bought the apple watch right away and for some weeks quite enervingly claimed how this is revolutionary technology they had been waiting for all their live. After a few months, they had all gone back to the usual Rolex etc.
 
Stick to a traditional watch - I'm poorest user on here and I stick to my casios, nato-strap timex and eco-drive citizen.
 
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Great White Snark said:
For me smart watches are a solution in search of a problem

Look it counts my steps per day (don’t care)
Look it measures my blood pressure (don’t care)
Look it tells me when I get a text (So? I have a phone for that)
Etc etc - I’ve yet to learn of a smart watch function that will make me think ‘cool, I’ve always wanted to be able to do that’ or ‘this will make my life so much easier’.
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It can be worse. G Shocks that offer altimeter, barometer and thermometer. You know how high you are, what the weather might do and how hot things are. Don’t care? Well this information will still occupy half the space on the watch face at the expense of hours, minutes and seconds.
 
The most egregious example is those carbon fibre skeleton watches that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars but the hands are so obscure they don’t actually do a good job of displaying the time.

“You had one job! ONE job!”
 
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perhaps, just looking at something so simple and beautiful can explain that applewach and watches only have "watch" in common
 
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The Hamilton Intra-Matic Chrono in olive green, an interesting alternative to the black and blue panda versions, more subtle and elegant colour wise, whilst retaining the sophistication:

www.fratellowatches.com

Hamilton Intra-Matic Chronograph Watch In Olive Green (With Date)

Within our team, the Hamilton Intra-Matic Chronograph is a popular beast. I know for a fact that a couple of the Fratelli will be racing out to buy this
www.fratellowatches.com www.fratellowatches.com
 
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