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It’s an incredible shit show, like they haven’t even looked at the Pfizer „trial“ data.
Like our resident professional expert witness here, they're either willingly ignorant, pretty data and evidence illiterate or sold their credentials and occupational reputation to the devil.
 
Like our resident professional expert witness here, they're either willingly ignorant, pretty data and evidence illiterate or sold their credentials and occupational reputation to the devil.
I assume it’s a combination of being willingly ignorant (a.o. due to lack of resources) and a do-gooder mentality. In any case, the CDC/FDA „vaccine performance“ is embarrassingly bad, plenty of countries are doing way better (by taking a scientific approach).
 
I assume it’s a combination of being willingly ignorant (a.o. due to lack of resources) and a do-gooder mentality. In any case, the CDC/FDA „vaccine performance“ is embarrassingly bad, plenty of countries are doing way better (by taking a scientific approach).
how are the other countries doing way better? also, what is their more scientific approach at this point?
 
how are the other countries doing way better? also, what is their more scientific approach at this point?
Here’s a handy chart (oversimplified for your convenience) regarding the recommendation to vaccinate <5yr old:

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a 5 second duckduck search would have solved this gap in your knowledge quite easily.
Yes I know that’s why I said it’s oversimplified. Nevertheless it’s correct. My Rambo-research budget for today is up so I can’t update the map, but here’s the actual figures then:

# of countries following the science: 7
# of countries following right-wing conspiracy theorists: ~180
 
Yes I know that’s why I said it’s oversimplified. Nevertheless it’s correct. My Rambo-research budget for today is up so I can’t update the map, but here’s the actual figures then:

# of countries following the science: 7
# of countries following right-wing conspiracy theorists: ~180
When you can’t bring Mohammed to the mountain…
 

you know its bad when macau shuts casinos
Just to allay the criticism that I post random music posts, with no relevance to the topic, well this is definitely about Macau:


Yes I know that’s why I said it’s oversimplified. Nevertheless it’s correct. My Rambo-research budget for today is up so I can’t update the map, but here’s the actual figures then:

# of countries following the science: 7
# of countries following right-wing conspiracy theorists: ~180
Is it a right wing conspiracy, a liberal one, or just plain hysteria?

At this stage, you'd have to be pretty desperate to be putting your faith in a booster for a virus that has mutated to the extent the vaccine is no longer effective.
 
I don't know anyone, other than some Italians, who my age or under are even considering getting boosted. It's game over for the vaccines that never where. Especially for those who did every right and have had Covid 2-4 times now.

Hence here, it's all about boosting over 60s. They can't sell it to anyone else. Maybe that's exactly how it should be.
 

I disagree with Pimpy on a lot of things but on this, as the Youths would say ' I see no lies being told'.

Not boosted ( and in hindsight, I actually regret taking the two jabs but had to because of travel /life etc). Boosters are not the answer for the majority of folk. The elderly and vulnerable, sure it makes sense.

Oh, and I had COVID last week apparently (got from my boosted missus). Only symptom was a little sore throat for two days.

Perpetual boosters for all is not a viable solution. Do you get perpetual flu boosters multiple times a year? Be that as it may, there has to be a policy shift and an embracing of reality
 
Oh, and I had COVID last week apparently (got from my boosted missus). Only symptom was a little sore throat for two days.
Same here, about three weeks ago. At least one of my kids had it as well, when my wife called a pediatrician (we were on vacation) they said “no need to come, all the kids have it at the moment, symptoms may persist up to a month”
 
Talking to my West Australian friends and family about their pandemic experience is surreal. While we talk about the hardships and all the deaths, they talk about an idyllic two years of not worrying with masks, crowded hospitals, death or fear. Cases have certainly shot up in the last few months, but now that everyone is vaccinated, it is nothing like we faced in 2020 and 2021.
 
I disagree with Pimpy on a lot of things but on this, as the Youths would say ' I see no lies being told'.

Not boosted ( and in hindsight, I actually regret taking the two jabs but had to because of travel /life etc). Boosters are not the answer for the majority of folk. The elderly and vulnerable, sure it makes sense.

Oh, and I had COVID last week apparently (got from my boosted missus). Only symptom was a little sore throat for two days.

Perpetual boosters for all is not a viable solution. Do you get perpetual flu boosters multiple times a year? Be that as it may, there has to be a policy shift and an embracing of reality
I'm the same on the vaccines, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have had the two I had. See no real difference in illness between those vaccinated or not, boosted or not in my age group and lower. All the men who got it at the time I did, in my circle, had symptoms for a month or more whether boosted, vaccinated or not. All the kids and women ill mildly for a couple of days. Again whether vaccinated or not. That was peak middle of February 2022.

I still have the herpes/shingles rash on the rib cage. Is that long Covid? Feel great. Would I have had that immune response without the vaccine? That's the question I ask myself. And err on the side of I shouldn't have taken the two experimental/emergency shots with no recall on the pharmaceutical company.

Plenty of legitimate virologists with track records and even working for The Bill Gates Foundation saying the vaccines are not/no longer effective against the current strains and we shouldn't be taking them as they boost a wrong response now at the expense of what would be the natural body's response.

In the UK now the government is paying out GBP 125,000 to the deceased from the vaccines and those who are permanently disabled. And there's thousands, literally thousands. Officially dead or fucked-up because of these vaccines. And it's on the death certificates.

Here in the Netherlands they officially recognize 19 deaths caused by the vaccines.

But there's clearly a change, there's no longer the official position that we all need to be vaccinated and boosted. No appetite to vaccine kids here. At least in the Netherlands. There's a sea change. Why?
 
I'm the same on the vaccines, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have had the two I had.
my god. this is just such an unbelievably idiotic thing to say.


I still have the herpes/shingles rash on the rib cage. Is that long Covid? Feel great. Would I have had that immune response without the vaccine? That's the question I ask myself.
did you ever have the shingles vaccine? i assume no, because vaccines = devil, but figured id ask.

Plenty of legitimate virologists with track records and even working for The Bill Gates Foundation saying the vaccines are not/no longer effective against the current strains and we shouldn't be taking them as they boost a wrong response now at the expense of what would be the natural body's response.
yes thats why they're developing the vaccine for the new strains. also, since when do you rely on the word of the Bill Gates Foundation???

In the UK now the government is paying out GBP 125,000 to the deceased from the vaccines and those who are permanently disabled. And there's thousands, literally thousands. Officially dead or fucked-up because of these vaccines. And it's on the death certificates.
source?

Here in the Netherlands they officially recognize 19 deaths caused by the vaccines.
my god 20 people died! its unfathomable!!!

But there's clearly a change, there's no longer the official position that we all need to be vaccinated and boosted. No appetite to vaccine kids here. At least in the Netherlands. There's a sea change. Why?
dear god
 


This is the current official tally, which doesn't include the ongoing claims being processed:

 
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This is the current official tally, which doesn't include the ongoing claims being processed:

thanks. honestly not sure what to make of that. almost 1700 claims by may but who knows how many of them are actually legitimate.
 
thanks. honestly not sure what to make of that. almost 1700 claims by may but who knows how many of them are actually legitimate.
That's only the report to date. According to GB News, which I first came to know that Vikki Spit was to receive the first historic payment for her partner's death from the covid vaccine a few weeks ago, there's well over 1900 deaths were the vaccines are stated as cause of death by the coroner.

I was wrong: the payment is capped at GBP 120,000. You might get a lot less. And that's not going to last very long is it? Now if the pharmaceutical companies were left accountable, you'd probably get a lot more, in the millions possibly. But they've been given a free pass.
Much more than the official figures.
It's very clear that these vaccines should have been offered on an informed consent basis only with the inherent risks and limitations made known. Instead, we've been wilfully lied to and the risks hidden with they're ''safe''. No, not quite. And mandated in many jurisdictions.

Pfizer was clever enough to let the decadent political class and a a craven MSM do their propaganda for them. In the contractual documents they were very clear that the vaccines didn't protect against transmission and only offered ''modicum'' protection against serious illness and death.

At this stage, if you haven't exited the narrative, you're probably already too far gone. And good luck with jabbing six month old babies.

Based on?
The Brit government's own Yellow Card system.
 

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