Coronavirus

Why the timing of your next COVID shot is so important

"'When we start to see BA.4 and BA.5 leading to rising cases, then I think we should be nimble and expect to need to get the boosters — but it's this waiting game,' said Otto.

'The longer you wait to get the vaccine, the more recent it is and the more powerful it is when the next wave happens. So you don't want to get it months before the next wave — Canada should be really pushing for vaccines right at the beginning of a wave.'"

This all makes sense for theoretical people sitting in a laboratory looking at statistics but you can't inoculate 30M people in 2 weeks at the beginning of the next wave. The last time third doses were handed out the booking system was swamped within hours and booked up from mid December to March.
 

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I guess my prescription drugs aren't helping.

Anecdotally I feel roughly the same entering the pandemic versus now.
 
Fwiffo said:
I guess my prescription drugs aren't helping.

Anecdotally I feel roughly the same entering the pandemic versus now.
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There's an element of here we go again...but we simply cannot afford lock downs and restrictions that were previously imposed.

My shingles/herpes rash on my rib cage is at last starting to fade. I assumed it was the virus, but now there's some studies from Israel saying that this may be a reaction to the vaccines that reignite the chicken pox virus, sooner rather than later. Shingles I always thought people got when there were much older.

Meanwhile, one of my uncles who's an ex-local Labour councillor has got himself targeted in vendetta now by the local restaurateurs. They live in one of those revamped gentrified dock areas. During the pandemic when the restaurants could only seat and operate outside, they were extending the sitting arrangements beyond that was permitted, so my uncle being an idiot went snitching to the local council and authorities. And now they've found out it was him, so they've had bricks thrown at windows, black paint and nail varnish painted over their post box and door handles and letters telling them they're not welcome in the locality. To be expected, you don't fuck with restaurant owners livelihoods do you? So now they're having to sell up and move.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
There's an element of here we go again...but we simply cannot afford lock downs and restrictions that were previously imposed.
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I rather meant that I feel I aged 2 or 3 years in terms of sex drive.
Pimpernel Smith said:
Meanwhile, one of my uncles who's an ex-local Labour councillor has got himself targeted in vendetta now by the local restaurateurs. They live in one of those revamped gentrified dock areas. During the pandemic when the restaurants could only seat and operate outside, they were extending the sitting arrangements beyond that was permitted, so my uncle being an idiot went snitching to the local council and authorities. And now they've found out it was him, so they've had bricks thrown at windows, black paint and nail varnish painted over their post box and door handles and letters telling them they're not welcome in the locality. To be expected, you don't fuck with restaurant owners livelihoods do you? So now they're having to sell up and move.
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Just imagine you were in Asia and you ratted on someone being infected and they got sent to a quarantine camp for ages.
 
Grand Potentate said:
of course we can. we afforded it then and we can afford it now. you're just saying that you don't want to pay the price.
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Yes, let's all "pay the price" of double digit stagflation, mass unemployment and ongoing food shortages. Not to mention the social disruption that would all provoke - though like most left wing nihilists you probably ascribe to the theory that any mass suffering that can precipitate a socialist utopia is desirable - the more dire people's lives the better because the higher the likelihood they will revolt! The usual fucked up "logic".
 
prince nez said:
Yes, let's all "pay the price" of double digit stagflation, mass unemployment and ongoing food shortages.
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none of these things actually has to do with coronavirus nor the government response to it.

prince nez said:
Not to mention the social disruption that would all provoke
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we did fairly well last time and that was a completely hands off approach to it.

prince nez said:
though like most left wing nihilists you probably ascribe to the theory that any mass suffering that can precipitate a socialist utopia is desirable
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no, actually i don't. the masses don't need to suffer to get a socialist utopia. its the rich and powerful that need to suffer.

prince nez said:
the more dire people's lives the better because the higher the likelihood they will revolt!
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well they're revolting now because their lives are dire. i'm almost positive socialists and communists didn't do a single thing to bring this on.
 

COVID-19 could put us at a greater risk of neurodegenerative diseases and stroke

Analysis of nearly one million Danish health records has found patients who tested positive for COVID-19 were subsequently more likely to be diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and stroke.
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COVID-19 could put us at a greater risk of neurodegenerative diseases and stroke​

Published: 24th June, 2022 at 23:00

Analysis of nearly one million Danish health records has found patients who tested positive for COVID-19 were subsequently more likely to be diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and stroke.

COVID-19 could be linked to an increased risk of neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s disease, a study carried out at Rigshospitalet, Copenhagen, has found.

The researchers statistically analysed records taken from both in- and outpatients in Denmark shortly after the coronavirus pandemic struck between February 2020 and November 2021.

Of the 919,731 patients that tested for COVID-19, they found that the 43,375 who tested positive had a 3.5 times increased risk of being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, 2.6 times with Parkinson’s disease, 2.7 times with stroke and a 4.8 times increased risk of with suffering from bleeding in the brain.
The increase in risk of neurological diseases was comparable to patients who had contracted influenza or other respiratory illnesses, but COVID patients over the age of 80 were seen to have a 1.7 times increased risk of stroke compared to influenza and pneumonia patients.

“More than two years after the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the precise nature and evolution of the effects of COVID-19 on neurological disorders remained uncharacterised,” said lead author Dr Pardis Zarifkar, from the Department of Neurology, Rigshospitalet.

“Previous studies have established an association with neurological syndromes, but until now it is unknown whether COVID-19 also influences the incidence of specific neurological diseases and whether it differs from other respiratory infections."

The effect may be due to inflammation in the brain caused by the virus but more work is needed on the effects of long COVID, the researchers say.
However, there was no increase in the risk of other neurodegenerative illnesses such as multiple sclerosis, myasthenia gravis, Guillain-Barré syndrome.
“We found support for an increased risk of being diagnosed with neurodegenerative and cerebrovascular disorders in COVID-19 positive compared to COVID-19 negative patients, which must be confirmed or refuted by large registry studies in the near future,” said Zarifkar.

“Reassuringly, apart for ischemic stroke, most neurological disorders do not appear to be more frequent after COVID-19 than after influenza or community-acquired bacterial pneumonia.

“These findings will help to inform our understanding of the long-term effect of COVID-19 on the body and the role that infections play in neurodegenerative diseases and stroke.”

The study was presented at the 8th European Academy of Neurology (EAN) Congress in Vienna.
 
Grand Potentate said:

COVID-19 could put us at a greater risk of neurodegenerative diseases and stroke

Analysis of nearly one million Danish health records has found patients who tested positive for COVID-19 were subsequently more likely to be diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and stroke.
www.sciencefocus.com www.sciencefocus.com

COVID-19 could put us at a greater risk of neurodegenerative diseases and stroke​

Published: 24th June, 2022 at 23:00

Analysis of nearly one million Danish health records has found patients who tested positive for COVID-19 were subsequently more likely to be diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and stroke.

COVID-19 could be linked to an increased risk of neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s disease, a study carried out at Rigshospitalet, Copenhagen, has found.

The researchers statistically analysed records taken from both in- and outpatients in Denmark shortly after the coronavirus pandemic struck between February 2020 and November 2021.

Of the 919,731 patients that tested for COVID-19, they found that the 43,375 who tested positive had a 3.5 times increased risk of being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, 2.6 times with Parkinson’s disease, 2.7 times with stroke and a 4.8 times increased risk of with suffering from bleeding in the brain.
The increase in risk of neurological diseases was comparable to patients who had contracted influenza or other respiratory illnesses, but COVID patients over the age of 80 were seen to have a 1.7 times increased risk of stroke compared to influenza and pneumonia patients.

“More than two years after the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the precise nature and evolution of the effects of COVID-19 on neurological disorders remained uncharacterised,” said lead author Dr Pardis Zarifkar, from the Department of Neurology, Rigshospitalet.

“Previous studies have established an association with neurological syndromes, but until now it is unknown whether COVID-19 also influences the incidence of specific neurological diseases and whether it differs from other respiratory infections."

The effect may be due to inflammation in the brain caused by the virus but more work is needed on the effects of long COVID, the researchers say.
However, there was no increase in the risk of other neurodegenerative illnesses such as multiple sclerosis, myasthenia gravis, Guillain-Barré syndrome.
“We found support for an increased risk of being diagnosed with neurodegenerative and cerebrovascular disorders in COVID-19 positive compared to COVID-19 negative patients, which must be confirmed or refuted by large registry studies in the near future,” said Zarifkar.

“Reassuringly, apart for ischemic stroke, most neurological disorders do not appear to be more frequent after COVID-19 than after influenza or community-acquired bacterial pneumonia.

“These findings will help to inform our understanding of the long-term effect of COVID-19 on the body and the role that infections play in neurodegenerative diseases and stroke.”

The study was presented at the 8th European Academy of Neurology (EAN) Congress in Vienna.
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Some selection bias here clearly. Older people are more likely to be tested / show symptoms and therefore of course are more likely to have Alzeimer's, Parkinson's etc. and any number of other medical conditions. There is no demonstrated causative link between COVID and subsequent development of any of these diseases. Indeed, the article basically admits as much:

"...most neurological disorders do not appear to be more frequent after COVID-19 than after influenza or community-acquired bacterial pneumonia... The increase in risk of neurological diseases was comparable to patients who had contracted influenza or other respiratory illnesses, but COVID patients over the age of 80 were seen to have a 1.7 times increased risk of stroke compared to influenza and pneumonia patients."

A 1.7x increase is basically in the noise - the risk of death from COVID itself for someone over 80 would be greater than that!
 
Grand Potentate said:
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A new branch ofCOVID-19’s Omicron variant, BA.5, is poised to become dominant in Ontario, and experts are watching closely, as it’s much better at getting around immunity, whether that immunity
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But what should I do? I watched an interview with a British doctor yesterday. He recently recovered and could only say keep your mask handy for high risk indoor situations. When risk is low and numbers are down, take advantage of meeting friends and family. Prior immunity won't help with the new strain. It's evading vaccines.

We might as well just recycle what my mother used to teach me - wash your hands, keep clean, eat healthy, get adequate rest, maintain your vitamin levels. Your immune system is the best weapon against disease and viruses.

But then no one makes money off that except fitness centres and nutritionists.

I'll pay money for magic drugs. One pill for every BA.X.
 
Our man in Rio is very ill with it, nobody told me, and now one of the shareholders is miffed with the Africans coming over. He did say entertain them on the basis of all the money from the court case about to be injected into the Group, but now he's got the jitters as one of them is a very big guy and thinks it might be a super-spreader event. FFS. Do decide. Entertain or not, it's not like VIP tickets are cheap.
 
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Covid infections jump by half a million in UK, says ONS

The rise is being driven by two new sub-variants of Omicron which are spreading quickly.
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Fwiffo said:
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Covid infections jump by half a million in UK, says ONS

The rise is being driven by two new sub-variants of Omicron which are spreading quickly.
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My sister has it again, third time, like my brother. She's fully boosted up and within 3 months.

Intriguing that the variants are spreading like wild fire in the summer, outside of the respiratory virus season, with the virus conforming to known virus mutation patterns i.e. becoming more infectious, but less severe.

Looks like we're all going to find out how long natural immunity lasts and how effective your third, fourth and fifth vaccine dose is. If the BA.4 and BA.5 is as it's stated, not very effective at all.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
My sister has it again, third time, like my brother. She's fully boosted up and within 3 months.

Intriguing that the variants are spreading like wild fire in the summer, outside of the respiratory virus season, with the virus conforming to known virus mutation patterns i.e. becoming more infectious, but less severe.

Looks like we're all going to find out how long natural immunity lasts and how effective your third, fourth and fifth vaccine dose is. If the BA.4 and BA.5 is as it's stated, not very effective at all.
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The Next Covid Wave Is Onrushing – Ian Welsh

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money shot:



article is worth a read.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
My sister has it again, third time, like my brother. She's fully boosted up and within 3 months.

Intriguing that the variants are spreading like wild fire in the summer, outside of the respiratory virus season, with the virus conforming to known virus mutation patterns i.e. becoming more infectious, but less severe.

Looks like we're all going to find out how long natural immunity lasts and how effective your third, fourth and fifth vaccine dose is. If the BA.4 and BA.5 is as it's stated, not very effective at all.
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It's not. My BA.2 immunity is useless for BA.5 or whatever.

I would rather not donate another 13 days to the virus if I could avoid it. I doubt the hotel quarantine program will still be funded by autumn but then I might be getting this one before the end of summer.
 
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