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A policeman killed by a man who had just been freed from prison for attempting to kill policemen.

How long will this continue?

French police - CRS etc. - were more ruthless during the Algerian campaign. Bodies found floating in the Seine and so on.

Will any western country engage in extrajudicial killings and reprisals at some stage?
 

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It will continue for a long time. It's a continent full of complete and absolute pussies. If Le Pen gets elected, the tide could turn.
 
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All eyes are on France as they should be with the worsening security situation and factoring in a Le Pen win. Sufficient traction is there: she has the vote of youth, the police and the pissed off middle class. The tide is already turning.

The current predicament in Europe is not inevitable, please take time to view this talk and Q&A session from Dr Gad Saad:


 

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Olo the terrorist handed quite literally the presidency to Le Penn. Hope she is not trump that says one thing and does something completely different.
 

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I was surprised at Fillon's response wanting to suspend and cancel the presidential campaigning. When terrorist attacks are on the public, we are told to just suck it up, get use and carry on.

The West should have laid down the ground rules over the Rushdie affair, this would have saved us a lot of aggro in the long run. Now it's going to be messy and unpleasant, but not as bloody and a Beirut 1975 scenario if we leave it another 5 or 10 years.
 

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You guys are a bunch of drama queens, talking like it's the end of the world. It's all very sad, but let's not act like the apocalypse is right around the corner.
 

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Olo the terrorist handed quite literally the presidency to Le Penn. Hope she is not trump that says one thing and does something completely different.
This is how she is gonna turn the tide; with the walking nightmare of every liberal.

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Also checked Reddit for the sub-Reddit where members post "what posters are on your bedroom wall".

Apparently Leitmotif Leitmotif has posted there and it explains a lot.

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But that's the best way to get elected.
They're all playing this to their agenda, Fillon is saying it's either us or them and in his book on combating Islamic jihad, he closes with a warning that WWIII is on the way if we don't defeat it. The hard lefty candidate is blaming the police and the nasty prejudice against those from the suburbs.

Heading to Paris for a week on Sunday. Will report back.
Apparently is feels quite safe at the moment, as there's armed police and soldiers walking around in platoons everywhere.
 

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You guys are a bunch of drama queens, talking like it's the end of the world. It's all very sad, but let's not act like the apocalypse is right around the corner.
It is like the 'Camp of the Saints' already. The only difference is they are neither from the Indian sub continent nor Hindu.
 

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France is not the place to be, hard and difficult times have already arrived.

The tax and setting up a new business situation is quite shocking.

Also they are, compared to the Brits and Dutch, along with the Germans extremely hierarchical. Your boss, is the boss is the boss and don't you dare question an order, or their position.
 

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France is not the place to be, hard and difficult times have already arrived.

The tax and setting up a new business situation is quite shocking.

Also they are, compared to the Brits and Dutch, along with the Germans extremely hierarchical. Your boss, is the boss is the boss and don't you dare question an order, or their position.
That last bit is true. I've had a French manager try to stare me down when I disagreed with an order. It was like something out of a movie, and I had great difficulty keeping a straight face because the absurdity of the situation made me laugh, which of course made it even worse because I disrespected his authority.
 

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Absolutely correct. To the French manager, be they capitalist or socialist, you are there to carry out their instructions to the letter and without any input, or sway. You go to a meeting with them and you think it's an open platform to brainstorm or come up with a better solution. Guess again. You're there to massage their ego, confirm you're of lesser status in the hierarchy and you will execute the order as instructed without any doubts or deviation. It's not compatible with the English psyche. Although the wine is.
 

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Absolutely correct. To the French manager, be they capitalist or socialist, you are there to carry out their instructions to the letter and without any input, or sway. You go to a meeting with them and you think it's an open platform to brainstorm or come up with a better solution. Guess again. You're there to massage their ego, confirm you're of lesser status in the hierarchy and you will execute the order as instructed without any doubts or deviation. It's not compatible with the English psyche. Although the wine is.
Yes, I was told afterwards never to publicly disagree with him ever again, and especially to avoid doing it over email where it's part of the permanent record. You need to treat them like a little kid with a fragile ego. I think he even tried to get me fired over it, but reason prevailed over seniority.
 

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Without any doubt that applies across all industries. And yet when it comes to brown envelopes everyone would be open for business to the highest bidder, or who could supply the best whores.

And if they think they own someone high up in the client, they will extend their dictatorship to the client's organisation. I once had a French supplier I was pre-qualifying and the owner telephoned my manager and advise him in no uncertain terms he owned half of our organisation and if we didn't pre-qualify him post-haste he would have us sacked. I kid you not.

That's why the Latin, Italian and French world like to get the Brits to do their dirty work for them, bent Brits will do it very subtly and take shit from clients they own for the pretence of legitimacy. The French and Italian ego couldn't tolerate that. They couldn't own someone and pretend that they actually didn't.
 
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We have something worse in the USA, the "modern" matrix management style where you put teams together that don't report to you, but are expected to manage and lead them. All they do is go and backbite you to their real managers.

Its responsibility with no authority. Horrible.
 

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I was surprised at Fillon's response wanting to suspend and cancel the presidential campaigning.
Why on earth would you be surprised? He's a french hen waiting for ISIS to smash his vagine. But before that, he must get elected. Allor! Avant de me pomper, embrasse-moi chéri! Vous Arabes, le fais toujours en arrière.
 

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It does look like the shooting had negligible difference in the first runoff. I found myself wondering why the democratic process is so noisy with protests leading all the way up to election day, but then again I'm reminded the French guillotined people along the way to a republic.
 

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Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).

They didn't mention that most people who commit violent extremist incidents are either truly mad and are so disconnected they don't know what they are doing or are violent people who use the "cause " as a badge rather than causal force.

They also neglect to mention most of the right wingers are xtian and that the ISIS identifying idiots are also right wing extremists.

So: ALL the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001 were by far right wing violent extremist groups of one ilk or another
 

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BRUNSWICK, Ga. -- A judge has sentenced Brunswick Pastor Kenneth Adkins to life for aggravated child molestation Tuesday morning.

Adkins' sentencing states he must serve a minimum of 35 years in prison, with the rest served on probation. He also faces up to 20 years for every additional charge, all to run concurrently.

Adkins turned himself in on one count of aggravated child molestation and one count of child molestation back in August of 2016. Authorities said that their investigation into the pastor focuses on suspected molestation in multiple locations.

Adkins is known for his controversial remarks and actions in the political sphere, beyond his work with the church. After the Orlando massacre at the Pulse gay club, he tweeted that gay people deserved what they got.
 
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