Hate the Millennials/Ask a Millennial a question

Chorn said:
I think we/they have realized that by now. Instead, I think we view it as a necessity to avoid a drastically increased possibility of a shitty life. Yeah, you can get by without a degree, but skilled labor is risky, especially in the long run.
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I'd argue it's the least risky. Most professional positions can be outsourced. You can't outsource electricians, carpenters, plumbers, masons, etc....
 
Yes, but those jobs are increasingly mechanized and offer iffy long term job security. Though job security anywhere is increasingly difficult to come by.

Regardless, at this point, we should be framing the discussion as "which is least bad" rather than "which path is better."

And both beat pink collar.
 
Chorn said:
Yes, but those jobs are increasingly mechanized and offer iffy long term job security. Though job security anywhere is increasingly difficult to come by.

Regardless, at this point, we should be framing the discussion as "which is least bad" rather than "which path is better."

And both beat pink collar.
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Not to mention all the illegal immigration that undercuts wages.
 
I can change a tire (there are people who can't?) and use Movados, the most challenging of analog watches.

But I don't get the impression that our generation is any less in touch with "manly things." Then again, everyone I know is Texan. And I've been pretty out of touch.
 
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1896698

Max Rice, the Guy Who Punked Fox and Friends, Speaks
Steve Karras 09/24/12 05:14 PM ET
Meet Max Rice, the 20 year-old film student and stand up comic from Chicago who decided to stage his own bizarre style of political theater when he pranked conservative Fox News host Gretchen Carlson of Fox & Friends. When an acquaintance at Fox News reached out to friends via text earlier this month looking for Obama voters who have since crossed party lines to support Mitt Romney, Rice (who wasn't even of voting age during the last election) knew it was his chance to humiliate the conservative news source. Since the debacle, the irreverent Rice has been deluged by interview requests. We had the opportunity to get to know the real Max, who spoke to us between classes recently. Were you serious when you told Gretchen Carlson that you met President Obama in the third grade?

I did meet him although I think it was in the fifth grade at Central School in Glencoe, Illinois at the time he was running for the Senate.Did you talk to him?

Yes, I told him that he was going to be President of the United States. And he answered in Presidential overtones, "Why thank you, young man." Any negative feedback so far? Any threats?

Yes and no. There's a grey area here. A bunch of my friends have texted me, half joking,"You're a f*cking moron" though they might be serious. I can't tell.

Has the administration at Columbia College (where Rice attends) contacted you?

Not yet. They must be pissed off because this one guy from theWashington Post called the school and they told him that I wasn't enrolled there. So I had to send him my student ID to verify I am who I am.

Does Fox need some improvement in the fact checking department?

Fox had a week to learn that I wasn't 23 years old, wasn't a Romney supporter, wasn't a college graduate. They could have Googled my name, they could have seen my stand-up, they could have seen my presidential speech. They didn't connect the dots that I graduated high school in 2010. And these people are getting paid millions of dollars to be journalists? They're not journalists.

There is footage of you on the Internet giving a speech to your high school class. Is that the presidential speech you are referring to?

Yes, I was class president at New Trier High School but only senior year. I ran every year though.

How long did it take until you were contacted by all of the media outlets?

Essentially right away. I did the interview at 5pm CST and got home a 6:20 and there was already an article written. I guess there are people who watch Fox News 24/7 to see if they've messed up and then they blog about it. Apparently they've been waiting for something like this to happen. Do you hope this will catapult you into some kind of career of sorts?

This wasn't my attempt to boost my career. It just happened to me. I would've rather had something like this happen in a year or two when I've actually graduated.

Well, now you know that life is totally incidental.

Exactly. When did you start doing stand-up comedy?

I started doing standup at 15 in Chicago.

Any comedian you want to model your career after?

My hero is Bill Hicks. It's a shame I never got to meet him. I think my dad went to high school with him. How funny is that?

Do you think the subversive nature of Bill Hicks' act inspired you to pull something off like the Fox prank?

He's just very inspiring. Just look at the ballsy stuff he had in his act. He's the only comedian to ever get censored by David Letterman's show.

What did your family think of your escapade?

It went over very well with my family.

Come on, they weren't horrified?

No, they all liked it. I guess all our wires aren't properly connected (laughs)

Were you prepared for all of the media interest?

Not really, but most of the questions have been the same so it hasn't been that difficult. They basically want me to tell them the story and want me to verify that I'm the guy who pranked Fox. But none of the questions quite give a good picture of who I am.

What would you like them to ask?

No one has asked me about movies. That's my biggest passion. I could go on for hours about movies.

Ok, Max what are your top five favorite movies?

That's easy. No. 1, The Searchers. I'm a huge John Wayne fan. He's another inspiration even though we differ politically. John Wayne never made a bad film. Second favorite movie is Alfred Hitchcock'sNotorious with Cary Grant, Ingrid Bergman, Claude Raines. In my opinion, it's just a better version ofCasablanca. It's Casablancadirected by Alfred Hitchcock. Ok, number 3. Crimes and Misdemeanors. Have you ever seen that?

Many times.

Well it's another perfect movie. Ok, how many movies is that?

Three. Two more.

I'm a huge Terry Gilliam fan. So,Brazil is in my top five.

What's the last one.

Duck Soup

With all of this media interest in you will life ever be the same?

I just got back from class so nothing seems to be too different. I don't feel different, it's just weird.

Since the prank all of the articles written have portrayed you as a guy with an agenda. Are you?

This whole thing fell into my lap and I just went on my instincts. But I did have these preconceived notions about Fox.

Any girls called you so far?

Zero so far. That's the honest and unfortunate truth. Let everybody know that I'm single.

Ok, we will. Thanks, Max. Best of luck.

Thanks, you too.
 
Millennials are those who were born in…?

Wait, I googled it and I'm a "Millennial". I think I might hate them too. One of my businesses is to educate people to save. Mexico is a society that it's towards credit than saving. When I started this business I was impressed by how much people of my age are already in the "Buro de Credito", don't know how it's called in English but it's like the grade banks and other financial entities give you for the use of credits and usually when you enter is because you have a debt.

And debts are big considering their income. A $160,000 pesos debt is a lot when your income is around $7,000 pesos a month. But they get excited - because they already had a credit card when they were still in college and no job. I got my first credit card when I started to work.

I consider my generation as hedonist. They want the "pleasure" right now, it doesn't matter how you are going to pay or cover it later but they need it now. Al lot want their house right now, they get their mortgage, they will pay $16,000 pesos a month for 20 years and end up paying twice the price of the house and they even can't consider the house of their property, stop paying it and you'll see.

If they save that amount for 10 years getting nice gainings they could buy a bigger home than they will actually buy. But they don't seem to get it, they think they earn too little to save, that there's no time to save but they spend $8,000 pesos on Ferrgamo shoes, $4,000 in Ferragamo belts or they spend $3,000 pesos every single weekend.

Unfortunately if we keep going like this Messico I going to be and old and even more poor Messico.

Sorry for the rant.
 
thruth said:
1982 is often used as a reference date for the start of the millennial generation
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IM IN THE CLEAR!

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Here is one of the fundamental research papers that defined entitlement in University settings. 18-25 years olds in 2008

Da Milennials

http://www.physics.emory.edu/faculty/weeks//journal/greenberger-jya08.pdf

Check out Table 1 on page 4 of the PDF (journal page 1196) on some on the dumb ass expectations.

66% feel that telling a prof that they are trying hard should influence their grade.

41% feel if they do all their readings they deserve a B

34% feel if they just show up for MOST of the classes they should get a B

30% think they should be able to dictate when they can take an exam so it doesn't interfere with their vacation plans

25% feel it is OK to ask the prof to lend them their notes

Almost 17% feel they should be able to take an "important" call in class without the prof getting annoyed
 
thruth said:
Here is one of the fundamental research papers that defined entitlement in University settings. 18-25 years olds in 2008

Da Milennials

http://www.physics.emory.edu/faculty/weeks//journal/greenberger-jya08.pdf

Check out Table 1 on page 4 of the PDF (journal page 1196) on some on the dumb ass expectations.

66% feel that telling a prof that they are trying hard should influence their grade.

41% feel if they do all their readings they deserve a B

34% feel if they just show up for MOST of the classes they should get a B

30% think they should be able to dictate when they can take an exam so it doesn't interfere with their vacation plans

25% feel it is OK to ask the prof to lend them their notes

Almost 17% feel they should be able to take an "important" call in class without the prof getting annoyed
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Jesus Christ on a cracker.
 
thruth said:
Here is one of the fundamental research papers that defined entitlement in University settings. 18-25 years olds in 2008
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I mainly blame the universities. They are a business and the students are the customers. The schools are luring them in with luxury housing and athletic facilities and all sorts of stuff to make them feel like little kings. And, let's be honest, for most of these OWS types are studying something absolutely useless and all that matters is that the bill-paying parents are pleased.
 
Russell Street said:
I mainly blame the universities. They are a business and the students are the customers. The schools are luring them in with luxury housing and athletic facilities and all sorts of stuff to make them feel like little kings. And, let's be honest, for most of these OWS types are studying something absolutely useless and all that matters is that the bill-paying parents are pleased.
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This. Its good for business to look exclusive (Coach, Hermes, Harvard) and then bad for business to weed them out.

College is a business, and people should start considering capacity and not accreditation.
 
I am a millennial.

I don't exhibit many of the symptoms listed throughout the thread. But I do still kind of hate myself.
 
Let's see this guy when winter comes around. The life of a mooch will suddenly get dire, grasshopper.
 
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