Legal Eagles: Current Law Case Discussion & Other Legal News

[Dropbear]

Yeah, he’s not guilty of murder. Someone technically attacked him and they got shot. Fair enough. That said, Kyle R. is also a piece of shit who went out, I truly believe, HOPING to be “forced” into shooting people. Please don’t treat this guy like a hero for technically not murdering someone (though I suspect a lot of his proponents are all in favor of murdering people they don’t like). He still knowingly made stupid choices that led to someone being shot and killed when it was not necessary. It’s only for the sake of the continued strength of the laws that must continue protecting truly good people in self defense situations that my emotions are at all mixed regarding this trial. I believe that Kyle is a bad/foolish/immature person. I believe the judge was operating in bad faith and in blatant favor of the defendant. I believe the prosecution was a bit wonky and inept. I also believe the legal decision was the correct one. This was not a case to be celebrated. This was a shit show, and people died. May he live unhappily ever after.

 

[Dropbear]

A Liberal Gun Rights Advocate Explains What Both Sides Got Wrong About Kyle Rittenhouse

“It doesn’t complicate my ideas about it. It’s always been complicated. Who’s the good guy with the gun?”

slate.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

A Liberal Gun Rights Advocate Explains What Both Sides Got Wrong About Kyle Rittenhouse

“It doesn’t complicate my ideas about it. It’s always been complicated. Who’s the good guy with the gun?”

slate.com

ugh not you too

 

[güero]

Rittenhouse Verdict Raises Concerns That It’s No Longer Safe To Beat People To Death With A Skateboard

U.S.—As Americans deal with the aftermath of the Rittenhouse verdict, many are being forced to come to terms with the fact that it's no longer safe to beat people to death with a skateboard in America.

babylonbee.com

 

[Dropbear]

ugh not you too

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[Grand Potentate]

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a lot of this "both sides" discourse going around. its exceptionally aggravating if you paid even the tiniest detail to that sham of a trial.

 

[Dropbear]

a lot of this "both sides" discourse going around. its exceptionally aggravating if you paid even the tiniest detail to that sham of a trial.

He is a truly shitty human being and I hope he faces some moral reckoning for what he did, but the prosecution failed to make their case that his actions met legal definitions. As Lara says in the interview above.

 

[Grand Potentate]

He is a truly shitty human being and I hope he faces some moral reckoning for what he did, but the prosecution failed to make their case that his actions met legal definitions. As Lara says in the interview above.

yes the whole thing was a fucking debacle but people are turning it into a "both sides" debate and its caused me to just check out of the discourse.

 

[Dropbear]

The fuck is going on in this country?

Don’t be fooled: The Supreme Court’s Texas abortion decision is a big defeat for Roe v. Wade

Justice Neil Gorsuch’s majority opinion is sneaky, underhanded, and a big blow to abortion rights.

www.vox.com

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

yes the whole thing was a fucking debacle but people are turning it into a "both sides" debate and its caused me to just check out of the discourse.

There should be no sides, the evidence is clear: he's a race baiting hussler with zero shame.

 

[Fwiffo]

 

[Grand Potentate]

morons. we're ruled by morons.

 

[Journeyman]

morons. we're ruled by morons.

Conservative majority on the Supreme Court in action.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Conservative majority on the Supreme Court in action.

I saw someone reply that it was like saying workplaces had no right to keep floors dry because it obviously gets wet elsewhere.


Just pure baby brained shit.

 

[Journeyman]

I saw someone reply that it was like saying workplaces had no right to keep floors dry because it obviously gets wet elsewhere.

Yes, pretty much.

Or because you can cut yourself in the kitchen at home, it therefore follows that there is no need to have regulations about workplace safety, training and equipment in commercial kitchens, because injuries can happen anywhere.

 

[Grand Potentate]

The Supreme Court Is an Antidemocratic Monstrosity. We Should Break Its Power.

Instead of celebrating Stephen Breyer’s retirement, we should be weakening the Supreme Court’s power. Popular majorities should determine the course of our society — not nine unelected lawyers.

jacobinmag.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

 

[Dropbear]

This will not help policing:

Supreme Court limits ability to enforce Miranda rights | CNN Politics

The Supreme Court limited the ability to enforce Miranda rights in a ruling Thursday that said that suspects who are not warned about their right to remain silent cannot sue a police officer for damages under federal civil rights law even if the evidence was ultimately used against them in their...

www.cnn.com

 

[Dropbear]

 

[Dropbear]

Fucking what now?

Religious employers need not cover PrEP in their health plans, federal judge rules

U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor’s ruling could threaten access to sexual and reproductive health care for more than 150 million working Americans on employer-sponsored health care plans. The ruling will likely be appealed.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Fwiffo]

Supreme Court leans toward web designer over refusal to work on same-sex weddings

The justices are considering whether web designer Lorie Smith, a conservative evangelical Christian, has a free-speech right that trumps Colorado's antidiscrimination law.

www.nbcnews.com

Let's discuss gents.

A web designer is a private business no? It is not a hospital, driver's licence centre, or any public institution that needs to guarantee access for everyone.

What is the difference between this and going to some shop in an ethnic neighbourhood that only has signs in their language and the staff inside can't speak or be bothered to speak any English. A private store owner can technically choose not to serve you based on your looks (night clubs) or how you smell that day.

 

[Thruth]

Supreme Court leans toward web designer over refusal to work on same-sex weddings

The justices are considering whether web designer Lorie Smith, a conservative evangelical Christian, has a free-speech right that trumps Colorado's antidiscrimination law.

www.nbcnews.com

Let's discuss gents.

A web designer is a private business no? It is not a hospital, driver's licence centre, or any public institution that needs to guarantee access for everyone.

What is the difference between this and going to some shop in an ethnic neighbourhood that only has signs in their language and the staff inside can't speak or be bothered to speak any English. A private store owner can technically choose not to serve you based on your looks (night clubs) or how you smell that day.

Discuss? Maybe if you actually understand what is being litigated? To put it in a context you will understand, it is no different than a bar refusing you service because you are not white, or if you bring in the Persian whores you spend time with. Public business is one that serves the public, not that it is a private entity or not.

The appellant has not been sued under the Colorado law. She just wants to be able to tell potential customers and to publish on her website that she is an artiste and should not have to take commissions from faggots and dykes for the creation of same sex wedding websites. She wants to be indemnified in advance. It could be gooks or Persian slags instead.

Is that low level enough for you to understand now?

Discuss.

 

[Fwiffo]

Discuss? Maybe if you actually understand what is being litigated? To put it in a context you will understand, it is no different than a bar refusing you service because you are not white, or if you bring in the Persian whores you spend time with. Public business is one that serves the public, not that it is a private entity or not.

The appellant has not been sued under the Colorado law. She just wants to be able to tell potential customers and to publish on her website that she is an artiste and should not have to take commissions from faggots and dykes for the creation of same sex wedding websites. She wants to be indemnified in advance. It could be gooks or Persian slags instead.

Is that low level enough for you to understand now?

Discuss.

"Justices in the conservative majority seemed generally supportive of the notion that Smith should not be forced to express sentiments to which she disagrees, with Justice Clarence Thomas noting that policing speech was not how public accommodations laws like Colorado's were traditionally applied.

'This is is not a hotel. This is not a restaurant. This is not a riverboat or a train,' he said, referring to businesses required to service all customers. Other conservative justices, including Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, asked similar questions."

I am merely repeating the majority of the justices who say there is no need to accommodate. She isn't the one and only minister who can bless weddings in Colorado so she's not essential. She's a wedding designer or whatever that is.

Why does court need to intervene anyway? To use your analogy, a bar that only serves people who speak Swahili will by the good graces of capitalism find itself struggling to break even versus one who accepts anyone. The same goes for an Indian restaurant who insists only employing Indians - you end up overpaying to get that homogeneity or you are saddled with poorer talent compared to a wider talent pool consisting of all races.

If anything capitalism and the need to stay afloat and make money to the widest possible customer base will resolve these issues without a supreme court justice spending valuable time to opine on it.

 

[Thruth]

"Justices in the conservative majority seemed generally supportive of the notion that Smith should not be forced to express sentiments to which she disagrees, with Justice Clarence Thomas noting that policing speech was not how public accommodations laws like Colorado's were traditionally applied.

'This is is not a hotel. This is not a restaurant. This is not a riverboat or a train,' he said, referring to businesses required to service all customers. Other conservative justices, including Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, asked similar questions."

I am merely repeating the majority of the justices who say there is no need to accommodate. She isn't the one and only minister who can bless weddings in Colorado so she's not essential. She's a wedding designer or whatever that is.

Why does court need to intervene anyway? To use your analogy, a bar that only serves people who speak Swahili will by the good graces of capitalism find itself struggling to break even versus one who accepts anyone. The same goes for an Indian restaurant who insists only employing Indians - you end up overpaying to get that homogeneity or you are saddled with poorer talent compared to a wider talent pool consisting of all races.

If anything capitalism and the need to stay afloat and make money to the widest possible customer base will resolve these issues without a supreme court justice spending valuable time to opine on it.

You don't even know what business she runs? Cool. Roll on capitalism. You are merely a conduit to spout incomplete facts anyway so there is nothing to discuss.

 

[Dropbear]

"Justices in the conservative majority seemed generally supportive of the notion that Smith should not be forced to express sentiments to which she disagrees, with Justice Clarence Thomas noting that policing speech was not how public accommodations laws like Colorado's were traditionally applied.

'This is is not a hotel. This is not a restaurant. This is not a riverboat or a train,' he said, referring to businesses required to service all customers. Other conservative justices, including Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, asked similar questions."

I am merely repeating the majority of the justices who say there is no need to accommodate. She isn't the one and only minister who can bless weddings in Colorado so she's not essential. She's a wedding designer or whatever that is.

Why does court need to intervene anyway? To use your analogy, a bar that only serves people who speak Swahili will by the good graces of capitalism find itself struggling to break even versus one who accepts anyone. The same goes for an Indian restaurant who insists only employing Indians - you end up overpaying to get that homogeneity or you are saddled with poorer talent compared to a wider talent pool consisting of all races.

If anything capitalism and the need to stay afloat and make money to the widest possible customer base will resolve these issues without a supreme court justice spending valuable time to opine on it.

Just curious, did capitalism desegregate the South?

 

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[Fwiffo]

You don't even know what business she runs? Cool. Roll on capitalism. You are merely a conduit to spout incomplete facts anyway so there is nothing to discuss.

More like I don't believe in businesses that revolve around a wedding - aka a glorified party. Of course people get divorce multiple times these days so maybe business is booming.

Just curious, did capitalism desegregate the South?

I don't know. I'm sure someone can run studies on GDP and median household incomes.

 

[Fwiffo]

Children stopped sleeping and eating to play Fortnite - lawsuit

A Canadian judge approves legal action by parents who say their children were addicted to the video game.

www.bbc.com

Will these apply to games in the past? I scored lower in tests, showed up late at school and was a bit disheveled because of a few games

 

[Fwiffo]

Jury in Alex Murdaugh murder trial begins deliberations

The fate of the disbarred South Carolina lawyer now in jurors' hands following the closing arguments. Earlier, the judge removed one of the 12 jurors and replaced her with an alternate.

www.nbcnews.com

An alternate juror comes in....after the prosecution has closed final arguments. Only the defence now needs to wrap it up. How up to date is this alternate juror?

(from someone who has never been in jury duty)

 

[Thruth]

Jury in Alex Murdaugh murder trial begins deliberations

The fate of the disbarred South Carolina lawyer now in jurors' hands following the closing arguments. Earlier, the judge removed one of the 12 jurors and replaced her with an alternate.

www.nbcnews.com

An alternate juror comes in....after the prosecution has closed final arguments. Only the defence now needs to wrap it up. How up to date is this alternate juror?

(from someone who has never been in jury duty)

alternates jurors hear the proceedings, see the evidence, are sequestered with the jurors if that happens, they just don’t participate in the deliberations

 

[fxh]

alternates jurors hear the proceedings, see the evidence, are sequestered with the jurors if that happens, they just don’t participate in the deliberations

Its common here to empanel 14 people - just in case

 

[fxh]

Jury in Alex Murdaugh murder trial begins deliberations

The fate of the disbarred South Carolina lawyer now in jurors' hands following the closing arguments. Earlier, the judge removed one of the 12 jurors and replaced her with an alternate.

www.nbcnews.com

An alternate juror comes in....after the prosecution has closed final arguments. Only the defence now needs to wrap it up. How up to date is this alternate juror?

(from someone who has never been in jury duty)

The judge asked the juror if she had any belongings she needed to take with her before leaving, and she replied she had kept a dozen eggs in a back room.

WTF?

 

[Dropbear]

WTF?

Egg prices are at a record high, here. Maybe that’s how she invested her jury duty cheque?

 

[Fwiffo]

Johnson & Johnson offers $9bn to settle talc claims

The new settlement offer is a significant boost over the $2bn the firm had previously proposed.

www.bbc.com

My brother and I were slathered in this without any consequence. Maybe I need to get in on the reparations.

 

[Fwiffo]

Mother jailed for taking abortion pills after legal limit

Carla Foster, 44, pleaded guilty to procuring drugs to induce an abortion at 32-34 weeks.

www.bbc.com

"... allows pregnancies up to 10 weeks to be terminated at home.

However, Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court heard the woman was between 32-34 weeks pregnant when she took them.

Abortion is legal up to 24 weeks. However, after 10 weeks the procedure is carried out in a clinic."

"Sentencing, judge Mr Justice Edward Pepperall said it was a 'tragic' case, adding that if she had pleaded guilty earlier he may have been able to consider suspending her jail sentence."

But wait... This incarceration is immoral according to:

 

[Dropbear]

Affirmative Action took a hit and the reactions have been fairly predictable along party lines. I’ve yet to read any deeper commentary.

 

[Fwiffo]

I'm honestly confused about it because I was listening to it during one of my workouts earlier this week on admittance into Harvard. If a white person and a latino or black have equal credentials/merit, then they turn to the race card and choose someone who is diverse that gives the black or latino a leg up. Whites are unhappy about this because they can't get in.

Then it turns to Asian Americans (I assume orientals and not browns) who complain they are being classified - I assume after an interview - as timid, shy, not aggressive enough. Whites are getting in and taking their places.

At the end of the day, who is actually getting into Harvard then?

 

[Dropbear]

At the end of the day, who is actually getting into Harvard then?

Mostly legacy admissions, from what I’ve heard.

I also heard that the SC gave an exemption for the military academies to continue to give preference to minorities. It’s important to have a diverse officer class but an all-white ruling class is also just fine?

 

[Grand Potentate]

Mostly legacy admissions, from what I’ve heard.

I also heard that the SC gave an exemption for the military academies to continue to give preference to minorities. It’s important to pretend to have a diverse officer class but an all-white ruling class is also just fine.

fixed this for you

 

[Dropbear]

fixed this for you

I dunno about that, man.