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Traditions are very important, for many reasons. There are the obvious ones that people normally think of first - comfort, beauty, amusement, and so on. But the principal one is entirely practical - they help to protect you.

And not just from the charlatans of the day either. Those have always been with us, and always will be. The times we live in are far more serious. If I truly hated a people and wished to utterly destroy them, one weapon I would use is the destruction of their traditions.

You are experiencing it in America as we speak - day by day your traditions are being destroyed, your history rewritten, and your people weakened. This is being one in preparation. Those doing this are driven not just by ordinary fear and greed, but also by hatred.

Guard your traditions as best you can, in your family and your nation. Those who encourage you to abandon them wish you nothing but ill.
 

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Guard your traditions as best you can, in your family and your nation. Those who encourage you to abandon them wish you nothing but ill.
you've got far too rosy a view on tradition in this country. we've become so completely atomized by capitalism and the overwhelming majority of people wouldn't give two shits about the loss of some dumb tradition. i can guarantee you with 100% certainty that if no one ever heard about fucking groundhog day again it would fade into existence without so much as a muffled fart.
 

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you've got far too rosy a view on tradition in this country. we've become so completely atomized by capitalism and the overwhelming majority of people wouldn't give two shits about the loss of some dumb tradition. i can guarantee you with 100% certainty that if no one ever heard about fucking groundhog day again it would fade into existence without so much as a muffled fart.

I haven't got a rosy view at all, I can assure you I'm far more pessimistic than you are. But you're rather making my point for me, I think.

As for capitalism, it's a large part of your (or our) problem. It's solely concerned with power (not profit, as most people think).

Capitalism is a cancer.
 

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I was hoping Charles would have taken up the title of King George VII. He has full right to choose that title. King George VII sounds much more King like and traditional than King Charles III.

If l was the King i'd want to be called George VII. Actually, I wish l was the King....have wanted to be the King ever since l was a little kid.

Actually, the highest honor humans can get is said to be the Emperor. An Emperor is supposed to be higher than a King. Countries with Kings and Emperors are very special countries imo,they have heaven's mandate. The divine right of Kings etc.

Ironically, the last English (or sort of Scottish, at least his dad was) King that ruled by Divine Right was his namesake, Charles I.
 

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By the way, I'm not in the least enamoured of the British Royal Family, including the Queen.

She should have used the nuclear option during her reign. In not doing so she failed the people of the United Kingdom, and the world really, very badly.

I can't really condemn her for that, very few people would be up to the task. But the sad fact remains that the task was hers, and she failed it.

Things will be worse now, but of course that's just the reality of living in the Kali Yuga.
 

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I gather that there is some public indignation over the possibility that Prince Andrew may get one or more of the late queen's dogs. I don't know what the problem is here unless they are fearful old "Randy Andy" is going to actually "screw the pooch"!
 

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I gather that there is some public indignation over the possibility that Prince Andrew may get one or more of the late queen's dogs. I don't know what the problem is here unless they are fearful old "Randy Andy" is going to actually "screw the pooch"!
i was going to make an underage animal joke here but honestly it just creeps me out.
 

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I was hoping Charles would have taken up the title of King George VII. He has full right to choose that title. King George VII sounds much more King like and traditional than King Charles III.

If l was the King i'd want to be called George VII. Actually, I wish l was the King....have wanted to be the King ever since l was a little kid.

Actually, the highest honor humans can get is said to be the Emperor. An Emperor is supposed to be higher than a King. Countries with Kings and Emperors are very special countries imo,they have heaven's mandate. The divine right of Kings etc.

I also had rather expected he would take the name George VII upon assuming the throne. I recall reading that the Spanish Carlists believed in "God, Monarchy and the Divine Right of Kings...anything that has a touch of glory about it." That always sounded very cool to me. However, members of my family were involved in overthrowing the Hanoverian dynasty's rule in my country, so I have be a republican. One of my first cousins (several times removed) married George Washington's nephew. Her more famous sister, Dolley, married future president and chief architect of the Constitution James Madison. However, I have always been a Jacobite sympathizer. When I was up at Oxford and my friends drank the health of the Queen, I would reply, "To the King Across the Water"!
 

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Interesting post Jan. My family are descendants from William the Conqueror (King William 1), and l am also a monarchist because of my adherence to the idea of `divine right of Kings'. Sure...men fought battles for power, but they still won because they were meant to rule. If a man didn't have the divine right he'd lose the battles. However things have become complicated these days: lots of people have taken power that shouldn't be there, and many dictator types fight wars and get power; but the monarchy is different, it is God given and in a different realm from those political hacks and dictators you see ruling things these days. The Emperor was in a higher realm even again...he was just respected and never had to win battles, he just came to rule and impart his wisdom, BUT numerous Emperors got side tracked with worldly fancies so they were overthrown. Worldly desires caused many great ones to lose power because one loses the divine right to rule when one falls too much. It's a complicated system...far too difficult for us human beings to understand, afterall, it is organised by the divine. It is now a system of: those with divine rights (few these days) v's those with no divine right who steel.
 

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I think one day the Kings will return and the world will become good again. When democracies and politicians run things, you know the world is in really bad shape. When all the bad things are cleaned out by the divine, the Kings and Emperors will rule once again. 🤴
 

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Thank you for that eglaf it was most unlightening.
Allow me to enlighten you


Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the Tu-quoquepattern (Latin 'you too', term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the Ad-hominem argument.[1][2][3][4]
 

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The highest ranking man in the world will be at The Queen's funeral. I imagine all the Kings and Queens attending the funeral will need to bowl to him.

The Emperor of Japan outranks everyone.
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The old Emperor visits the Queen in London, yet the Queen lowers her head first.


The King of Spain lowers his head to the old Emperor too.
 

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Allow me to enlighten you


Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the Tu-quoquepattern (Latin 'you too', term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the Ad-hominem argument.[1][2][3][4]
If one person gently pokes fun at the traditions of another person’s country, then that other person points out that the first person‘s country has equally funny customs then that constitutes ‘whataboutism’. So fucking what? Are you always this much of a wanker?
 

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If one person gently pokes fun at the traditions of another person’s country, then that other person points out that the first person‘s country has equally funny customs then that constitutes ‘whataboutism’. So fucking what? Are you always this much of a wanker?

Only on odd months.
 

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don't think that's what the emperor would have done, or at least how
 

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^^^

apparently Charles has always been that way, very entitled. Has never polished his shoes or done any menial job. Must be difficult to be any other way when everything has always been done for you.

My uncle's best friend used to board with him at Timbertop school, he said Charles was a good bloke. Slept in the same dorm as him and got to know him well.
 

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I also had rather expected he would take the name George VII upon assuming the throne. I recall reading that the Spanish Carlists believed in "God, Monarchy and the Divine Right of Kings...anything that has a touch of glory about it." That always sounded very cool to me. However, members of my family were involved in overthrowing the Hanoverian dynasty's rule in my country, so I have be a republican. One of my first cousins (several times removed) married George Washington's nephew. Her more famous sister, Dolley, married future president and chief architect of the Constitution James Madison. However, I have always been a Jacobite sympathizer. When I was up at Oxford and my friends drank the health of the Queen, I would reply, "To the King Across the Water"!
Isn't it a contradiction to be a republican and for the Jacobite Stuarts, who very much embraced the divine right if Kings?
If one person gently pokes fun at the traditions of another person’s country, then that other person points out that the first person‘s country has equally funny customs then that constitutes ‘whataboutism’. So fucking what? Are you always this much of a wanker?
There's poking fun and then there's bitterness and having a chip on the shoulder. Never a good look, it borders on jealousy.

My Irish colleague is fuming with some of the stuff they're receiving. It's not like 400,000+ of Eire passport holders choose to live in England and Wales and a third of them qualify for dual passports and many of them do.

 

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My Irish colleague is fuming with some of the stuff they're receiving. It's not like 400,000+ of Eire passport holders choose to live in England and Wales and a third of them qualify for dual passports and many of them do.
Some don’t want the Crown, but don’t mind the half a crown.
 

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Isn't it a contradiction to be a republican and for the Jacobite Stuarts, who very much embraced the divine right if Kings?
Who was it who said, "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"?

On another note, it is a great pity that death has deprived H.M. King Charles III of the company his old friend and sage counselor, that beloved entertainer, humanitarian and philanthropist Sir Jimmy Savile. I gather that Sir Jimmy did tender the Prince a good deal of advice during the latter's breakup with Diana.
 

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It’s called tradition. At least we don’t check with a groundhog to see what the weather’s going to do.

Actually, "Groundhog Day" is Germanic in origin. The original tradition was that the bear would come out of his den on Candlemas, and if he saw his shadow, there would be six weeks more of winter. When bears were pretty much extirpated from Germany, the tradition was transferred to the badger (somewhat bear-like but not closely related). When German settlers arrived in Pennsylvania (the so-called Pennsylvania "Dutch"), they didn't find any badgers, the American badger being a Western animal, so they settled on the local marmots, variously called "ground hogs" or "woodchucks," as being the largest burrowing mammals in the area. (There would have been plenty of bears, but I guess the tradition had gotten too garbled by then for them to recall it originally applied to bears.) Even as a very young boy living in California I thought the whole "Ground Hog Day" business was extremely silly since there were no ground hogs within about 2000 miles from where I lived. As a little boy, I had a rather precocious knowledge of natural history. At one job interview I was asked if I could tell the difference between an elk, a moose and a caribou. I scornfully replied, "I could have told you that when I was five years old!"
 
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