On How The Planet's Going To Shit: The Undeniability Of Climate Change

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he's just really gone off the deep end.
''CO2 is not a pollutant. It is a plant food that is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.''

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hasn't this shit been debunked several times over?
 

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The Dutch farmers will be out again on Wednesday, they need to bring this government down to heel:

 

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Ranty Thunberg is in Alberta today. Someone want to tell me why she is wearing a jacket made from petroleum? Did she buy carbon offsets? It had better be Marmot up cycled polyester.
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Ranty Thunberg is in Alberta today. Someone want to tell me why she is wearing a jacket made from petroleum? Did she buy carbon offsets? It had better be Marmot up cycled polyester.
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How pray tell will she go back home during the winter? I blame Pimpernel Smith for marooning her on our continent. No yacht will sail her back across the Atlantic in a month or two.
 

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You forgot to log into your sock account Pimpernel Smith
hahahaha. It’s true though. Where is the wool?
You can’t be a ranty climate change activist and be wearing Marmot poly.

why is she not wearing Fjallraven of Klattermusen?

Or Canada Goose since she is ranting here.

i don’t global warming just ranty cunts that wear petrojackets when ranting in Petroland.
 

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How pray tell will she go back home during the winter? I blame Pimpernel Smith for marooning her on our continent. No yacht will sail her back across the Atlantic in a month or two.
IT’S CLIMATE CHANGE. THERE IS NO MORE WINTER!
 

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hahahaha. It’s true though. Where is the wool?
You can’t be a ranty climate change activist and be wearing Marmot poly.

why is she not wearing Fjallraven of Klattermusen?

Or Canada Goose since she is ranting here.

i don’t global warming just ranty cunts that wear petrojackets when ranting in Petroland.
 

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Funnily, enough I'm back in Blighty at the moment and saw thus geezer jump out of his SUV with a ''Greta Thunberg: Sweden's first Superwoman''. It seems the state of grace known as wokeness seems a get of jail card to it's acolytes.
 

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hahahaha. It’s true though. Where is the wool?
You can’t be a ranty climate change activist and be wearing Marmot poly.

why is she not wearing Fjallraven of Klattermusen?

Or Canada Goose since she is ranting here.

i don’t global warming just ranty cunts that wear petrojackets when ranting in Petroland.
Why no wool? No sheep in Sweden that produce fine wool in large enough amounts. All imported from far away lands, transport bad for climate. You gotta make a choice at times.
If people (that includes the car engineers) really wanted to make a difference they should say No! to all the fancy features in their cars.
Unless you live in desert or tropical lands there is no real need for an AC. It's the extra weight that makes cars use more fuel, along with luxury features like AC, big screens, ambient lighting or massaging seats. And lets not talk about using the car to fetch some cigarettes or crisps or go and chuck down a late night burger or pizza because you just watched a TV ad.
What else? Stop the throw away culture, buy stuff that is well (preferably locally) made and don't chase the latest trend, especially when it comes to technology. If your device is working, keep it! Lithium extraction is having a negative impact on the environment of the landscape where it's done.
All those little shitheads that partake in demonstrations about climate change should stop virtue signalling and quit posting on social media.

Climate change is about money and control. Scaring people and telling small children that the world will end in a few years? WTF?
And then wonder why so many people suffer from anxiety and/ or depression! But hey, pop a happy pill and you'll be fine, just like the corporation that makes them.
 

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^Maybe my house will end up underwater, but I'll let my stepson's grandkids worry about it...if the lad ever gets around to siring any children, and he's pushing 35!

On another note, Greta Thunberg should be given credit for breaking down ethnic stereotypes, in particular, that Swedish women and girls are extraordinarily good looking, by and large.
 
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More biomass subsidy madness, still can't complain, I'm making good money off this dirtier than coal panacea:

 

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More biomass subsidy madness, still can't complain, I'm making good money off this dirtier than coal panacea:

Maybe that bought carbon offsets
 

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They've tried a similar scheme with the Nitrogen Approach Program in the Netherlands and subsequently the construction and infrastructure private sectors are close to collapse as next to no new build projects are given the green light to proceed. Now inspired by the farmers, it's their turn to close down The Hague:


The Green fantasy is meeting reality!
 

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It was never really about the environment, health or climate, it was all about getting your cut of government hand outs and dole money for crap inefficient and polluting energy sources. And the Dutch government has committed to eliminating cleaner energy sources as policy:

 

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First you get the nitrogen space and then you spend it! What could possibly go wrong.....

 

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Piers Corbyn, a real scientist and elder brother of the Labour leader (but don't hold that against him), being interviewed on climate activism:

 
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If the climate alarmists have `the science' backing them, then why are they too afraid to have debates with the skeptics. One would think if the alarmists really had great science they would want to prove the alarmists wrong in public debates. There is a reason why the climate doomsday folks are too chicken to enter public debates on t.v, they know they'd get smashed.

 
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I find it remarkable that all of these so-called climate sceptics are convinced that Greta Thunberg is a shill and that the climate change movement is motivated by greed and a desire for money - but then entirely ignore the fact that the absolutely massive fossil fuel industry is also motivated by greed and a desire for money. Shell, BP and others don't sell fuel out of the kindness of their hearts - they sell it to make cold, hard cash.

If there are shills on the climate change side, then it seems to me that there are likely to be many more shills on the "climate sceptic" side. After all, they've got a vast amount to lose if fossil fuels are phased out.

If the climate alarmists have `the science' backing them, then why are they too afraid to have debates with the skeptics. One would think if the alarmists really had great science they would want to prove the alarmists wrong in public debates. There is a reason why the climate doomsday folks are too chicken to enter public debates on t.v, they know they'd get smashed.
Shooey, there are many, many examples of climate scientists attempting to debate sceptics. Just have a look at previous episodes of the ABC's Q&A program, for example. The problem is that all too frequently the sceptics come out with nonsensical arguments or with talking points that have already been debunked and yet they keep on hammering away with them.
 

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If there are shills on the climate change side, then it seems to me that there are likely to be many more shills on the "climate sceptic" side. After all, they've got a vast amount to lose if fossil fuels are phased out.
I would think it is more likely to be the opposite of that, more shills on the climate alarmists side. Every man and his dog has hopped on the climate change bandwagon, and yet none of them look into nuclear power options despite countries safely using it. Now it seems the dangers of nuclear power are greatly over exaggerated too....it would seem the shills have too much to lose by admitting the truth about nuclear energy.

14,000 people used to live in Chernobyl. If nuclear was so dangerous, where are all these thousands of deformed people from the fallout? Surely the media would be able to find them. AND why are there always people visiting the site of the nuclear fallout? AND why are there communities of people drinking the water that flows from Chernobyl decades later with NO obvious health effects?

See...the mainstream media and schools have conned a lot of people. Few people these days asks rational question like l did above. Instead they go along with the flow and accept things people CLAIM as science. I hope people wake up to this scam.


Just have a look at previous episodes of the ABC's Q&A program, for example.
you don't watch that show, do you? :o Never mind me, l was just stirring a little.



The problem is that all too frequently the sceptics come out with nonsensical arguments or with talking points that have already been debunked and yet they keep on hammering away with them.
I am talking about the well researched skeptics. No-one will dare take them on.
 
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I would think it is more likely to be the opposite of that, more shills on the climate alarmists side. Every man and his dog has hopped on the climate change bandwagon, and yet none of them look into nuclear power options despite countries safely using it. Now it seems the dangers of nuclear power are greatly over exaggerated too....it would seem the shills have too much to lose by admitting the truth about nuclear energy.
I believe in climate change or global warming. But I am a massive proponent of nuclear power. Clean energy forever. What's not to like. The problem in my country is we have massive reactors that generate loads of electricity. During low usage periods like the winter the energy is literally given away for free to our neighbours south. If there was a way to properly store it then I don't see why nuclear power can't be part of the solution to climate change.
 

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I believe in climate change or global warming. But I am a massive proponent of nuclear power. Clean energy forever. What's not to like. The problem in my country is we have massive reactors that generate loads of electricity. During low usage periods like the winter the energy is literally given away for free to our neighbours south. If there was a way to properly store it then I don't see why nuclear power can't be part of the solution to climate change.
So refreshing to hear. You are one of the honest global warming alarmists, you don't have an agenda, nor are you part of the group creating disinformation and trying to FORCE people to onto renewables.

Now l hear that it takes more carbon dioxide to create wind turbines and solar panels (concentrated carbon dioxide) than they save through there energy generation. Not that is a bad thing, more carbon dioxide would be a good thing. Have a look into how more carbon dioxide and global warming is good for the planet, you might be surprised with what you find. Also look into how carbon dioxide is not linked to global warming, and look into how global warming is measured. Lots of fraudulent science, that's why all the climate modelling is wrong and predictions are always wrong. .

There are more trees in the world and people are living longer and things are greening, yet the earth is supposed to be past saving in 12 years. People have been talking doomsday stuff for years...l remember as a kid being told the oceans would have covered parts of the earth by now. Of course none of it ever happened.
 

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If the climate alarmists have `the science' backing them, then why are they too afraid to have debates with the skeptics. One would think if the alarmists really had great science they would want to prove the alarmists wrong in public debates. There is a reason why the climate doomsday folks are too chicken to enter public debates on t.v, they know they'd get smashed.

You cannot win debates using science over laypeople, educated-over-the-internet wanktards and the true believers. Scientists have to remain sanguine because they lose the audience if they lower themselves to yelling, cajoling and acting like the uneducated they are debating against.

Look at idiot Igents and style influencers and their lack of knowledge but masses follow them. That is only suit science debates!

Non-Scientists or sham scientists cherry pick studies to back up their POV. They do not use the preponderance of evidence. They don't use systematic reviews and meta analyses to measure the quality and impact of good studies while ruling out shite studies.

The public and politicians generally are no different than the uneducated.

I am no climate change denier but I do have issues with some of the spokespeople that rant for or against.

That is why Ranty Thunberg is viewed so highly by the masses. She ranted and people took up the rant. Except without a script she is a dolt.
 

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If the climate alarmists have `the science' backing them, then why are they too afraid to have debates with the skeptics. One would think if the alarmists really had great science they would want to prove the alarmists wrong in public debates. There is a reason why the climate doomsday folks are too chicken to enter public debates on t.v, they know they'd get smashed.


worth a listen shooey
 

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worth a listen shooey
It's long, but l will listen to it in a few days when l get my brand new shoo polish from Boot Black. I plan to have a big polishing session and look forward to hearing it. I am always happy to hear holes picked in things regarding the climate change discussion because finding the truth is my major aim. I hope it's credible, and if it sounds reasonable l give it credit.

Let me just say that Stossel was a guy l just posted off the cuff today. He is not on my special list of climate change debunking specialists. I posted him because he made simple points and l made the unusual decision to post something light in the climate change thread.

I could spend lots of time and carefully post heavy hitting info, but l take this thread lightly and try not to take the mind set of trying to convince people. I will post bits of info here and there to have people think about it, but that is as far as l go.
 
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worth a listen shooey
Rambo I have listened to the first 7 minutes so far, and l am far from impressed. They use misleading terms like "fringe" and "far right", and that doesn't make for a good start. I would prefer unbiased commentary.

What is far right or alt right? Here is probably a good explanation of what it really is. It is very different to having conservative values. I hope you watch it, it is important.

People often misunderstand the differences between traditional conservatives and far right wingers.
 
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