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No sign of any zipper.
Does he have his suit pants made like sweat pants now with elasticated waists and no fly so he can have easy access to change his diaper?

That kind of wrinkling that Grand Potentate Grand Potentate mentioned might be normal for tight fitting pants but not for billowing baggies like these. Very puzzling!
 
Great White Snark said:
No sign of any zipper.
Does he have his suit pants made like sweat pants now with elasticated waists and no fly so he can have easy access to change his diaper?

That kind of wrinkling that Grand Potentate Grand Potentate mentioned might be normal for tight fitting pants but not for billowing baggies like these. Very puzzling!
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He's lost some weight, but his suits are clearly designed for comfort and the onlooker be damned.
 
Definitely an adult diaper in there, but that still doesn’t explain the lack of zipper m.
 
Dropbear said:
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The sharpness of the photo is too low to be able to say it with certainty, but if you enlarge it several times, you can see what looks like a zipper. Also unthinkable that a self-regarding person as Trump wouldn't bother to go around that way. By the way, the sleeves are horribly too long, even considering the loose general fitting of the suit.
 
Update on Pantsgate: they were not on backwards, though no one has offered an explanation for the weird creasing or the obvious adult diaper.

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Actually, Trump Was NOT Wearing His Pants Backward At A Weekend Rally

Trump's pants, it turns out, have legs. The unusual wrinkles in his attire raised an unlikely question: Could the former leader of the free world be wearing his suit pants backward?
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fxh said:
theconversation.com

Friday essay: the singlet — a short history of an Australian icon

Far from mere underwear, singlets have many cultural meanings. Once worn chiefly by shearers, laborers and soldiers, they have been embraced on dance floors and in the gym.
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Probably a dying expression now, but a "Jackie Howe" was Australian slang for a singlet (particularly a blue singlet), affectionately named after the world champion shearer:

State Library of Queensland

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www.dailymail.co.uk

Marks & Spencer stops stocking suits: Sales fall by 72%

The retail chain only stocks suits in 110 of their 254 stores across the UK, which is less than half of their branches.
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It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
 
Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
 
Sauce said:
Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
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They used to do very good Merino wool V-Neck jumpers too much better than Smedley.
 
Sauce said:
Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
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I have had terrible basic Marks T shirts. The necks stretch out of shape.

I don’t know about Blue Harbour that may change from year to year anyway.

St.Michael was their best brand - 90% made in the UK.
 
formby002 said:
They used to do very good Merino wool V-Neck jumpers too much better than Smedley.
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I thought their Italian stuff was better than Smedley. That Smedley stuff is great but not durable, I stopped buying it unless I found it in TK Maxx which was pretty often in the early 2000s. At £15 it was VFM, £100 not so much. You've got to be careful when you wash it and their polos always seem to end up with holes in them pretty quick.

Kingstonian said:
I have had terrible basic Marks T shirts. The necks stretch out of shape.

I don’t know about Blue Harbour that may change from year to year anyway.

St.Michael was their best brand - 90% made in the UK.
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Sorry to hear that, Kingy. I think my BH tees lasted about 10 years. Really were great. Never bought anything else, I found their design to be quite dull. I used to work for a sock company that made all M&S socks, long gone now. But those M&S socks then were bang for the buck. Don't know who makes for them now, most likely overseas.

Hard for those middle tier stores like M&S now. They don't offer the giltz of "label" design but aren't at Primark prices either. People seem to want one or the other these days. Though my daughter always gets her kids stuff for school from Marks. Seen it with Next as well. Next in the 80s was pretty much where Drakes is now market wise, gone right downhill since then. Brooks bros. crashed, Fenwicks has gone. What was that chain store that sold Crombie called? Think they had the rights to use the name, Mr. Fish. Damn, its on the tip of my tongue. They finished about 15 years ago. Had a flag store near Cordings. Yeah, tough times for those kinda shops now.
 
Kingstonian said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Marks & Spencer stops stocking suits: Sales fall by 72%

The retail chain only stocks suits in 110 of their 254 stores across the UK, which is less than half of their branches.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
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Everyone use to get their office suits from M&S - despite the old man's image - as they were big bang for your buck. The BB's button-downs in the early 90s were good too. Other than the food court, I think for men it's a bit bland and the quality isn't there. When they reopened the store here in The Hague there was a big buzz, didn't do them any good, they closed down 18 months later.

Kingstonian said:
Uniqlo are the best option for merino jumpers in the High Street now.
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Bought a lounge suit from them end of June, falling apart now except for the pants. The socks I bought at the same time are great, serious good value. What M&S should be delivering.
Sauce said:
Hard for those middle tier stores like M&S now. They don't offer the giltz of "label" design but aren't at Primark prices either. People seem to want one or the other these days. Though my daughter always gets her kids stuff for school from Marks. Seen it with Next as well. Next in the 80s was pretty much where Drakes is now market wise, gone right downhill since then. Brooks bros. crashed, Fenwicks has gone. What was that chain store that sold Crombie called? Think they had the rights to use the name, Mr. Fish. Damn, its on the tip of my tongue. They finished about 15 years ago. Had a flag store near Cordings. Yeah, tough times for those kinda shops now.
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Austin Reed? Bought out now, seemingly only operational at select outlet villages.
 
Kingstonian said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Marks & Spencer stops stocking suits: Sales fall by 72%

The retail chain only stocks suits in 110 of their 254 stores across the UK, which is less than half of their branches.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
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Here's another more comical piece from The Daily Mail on the current state of suit wearing:

www.dailymail.co.uk

CRAIG BROWN: Nine fascinating facts about the suit

CRAIG BROWN: Suits were first worn by members of the legal profession. The name is believed to derive from the legal expression 'sue-it'.
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Streetlight said:
I was looking to pop in there next time I was wandering around London, it was interesting enough, my own fault I suppose.

I though Austin Reed latterly sold Aquascutum, not Crombie.
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They sold Crombie in their Manchester shop. I can't remember seeing Crombie in other branches. Don't recall them selling Aquascutum at all.
 
Sauce said:
They sold Crombie in their Manchester shop. I can't remember seeing Crombie in other branches. Don't recall them selling Aquascutum at all.
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Now they're owned by, or was, who knows with all the changes and companies bankrupt within the same Group, by the same person who own(ed)s Aquascutum.

The outlet village incarnation of (Austin) Reed is dreadful. I like to check out the tat and rank mediocrity down at the McArthurGlen's.
 
doghouse said:
www.thetimes.co.uk

M&S considers move to Savile Row with Gieves & Hawkes deal

Marks & Spencer is considering a bid to rescue Gieves & Hawkes, the 250-year-old Savile Row brand.Gieves & Hawkes, along with its sister brands Kent & Curwen an
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M&S thinking about buying Gieves. What a world.
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The Chinese ownership completely wrecked Gieves & Hawkes.

Very quickly they decided to reinevent themselves as a young professional brand, for the office, but in the most bland way possible.

No sympathy, a decade of decline. Can M&S save them? Well, M&S might not be able to save themselves. They certainly didn't do a good job at BB's and they should have been able to do so, as there was massive overlap.

Better M&S make a go for it then no one.
 
doghouse said:
The garment industry might be the worst on the planet tbh.
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Behind the educated Indian expats and the marketing spin, India remains a caste ridden impoverished hell hole for the vast majority.
belinmad said:
www.thetimes.co.uk

Savile Row tailor Gieves & Hawkes falls victim to China debts

The owner of Gieves & Hawkes has been put into liquidation after initial attempts to find a buyer for the 250-year-old Savile Row brand failed.The British tailor, along with its sister brands Kent & Curwen and Cerutti, faces being consigned to history after its Chinese owner appointed FTI Consultin
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As soon as the Chinese took over they started to reinvent G&H's as a brand for young professional office workers. The gear was bland, over priced tat. Not a patch on what they were before. Took them a decade to harvest it to destruction.
 
belinmad said:
www.thetimes.co.uk

Savile Row tailor Gieves & Hawkes falls victim to China debts

The owner of Gieves & Hawkes has been put into liquidation after initial attempts to find a buyer for the 250-year-old Savile Row brand failed.The British tailor, along with its sister brands Kent & Curwen and Cerutti, faces being consigned to history after its Chinese owner appointed FTI Consultin
www.thetimes.co.uk www.thetimes.co.uk
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Unfortunate, but as Pimpernel says, it was really the victim of a failed mass-marketing experiment, trying to leverage its heritage.

I wasn't aware that the same group owned Kent & Curwen. In my first proper job, my manager was a former Indian cricketer who had also played country cricket in the UK. He used to wear Kent & Curwen vests and jumpers, and sometimes shirts. They made nice cricket jumpers.
 
Journeyman said:
Unfortunate, but as Pimpernel says, it was really the victim of a failed mass-marketing experiment, trying to leverage its heritage.

I wasn't aware that the same group owned Kent & Curwen. In my first proper job, my manager was a former Indian cricketer who had also played country cricket in the UK. He used to wear Kent & Curwen vests and jumpers, and sometimes shirts. They made nice cricket jumpers.
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It's a crying shame, will all of these heritage brands disappear or linger on down at the outlet villages for several years like Jaeger?

Lacoste is another brand, still financially successful (I think), that just reinvented itself as a youth brand. Really crap now. Stuff only teenagers would wear.

Even if G&H's had stayed true, would there be enough of a demographic for them to support all the stores out in the provinces?
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
Even if G&H's had stayed true, would there be enough of a demographic for them to support all the stores out in the provinces?
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Back in the 90s I remember sitting on a tube train, looking across at some young hooray, he had a country jacket and pink shirt sort of look, carrying a Gieves and Hawkes bag he'd clearly just been shopping. Thing is he was looking jealously at what I was wearing, I can't remember what, more streetwear, but I do remember thinking his look must now be on the way out.
 
Streetlight said:
Back in the 90s I remember sitting on a tube train, looking across at some young hooray, he had a country jacket and pink shirt sort of look, carrying a Gieves and Hawkes bag he'd clearly just been shopping. Thing is he was looking jealously at what I was wearing, I can't remember what, more streetwear, but I do remember thinking his look must now be on the way out.
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Back in the 80s and 90s Some people did think G&H's were a bit hooray and snooty-ish. They were certainly a bit more posh than Austin Reed on the high street. They straddled the two worlds of Savile Row and being readily available in the provinces. In the late 90s I was really into them, it was a cut above the footballer commentator look which was all the rage back then with cheap cufflinks. I was into Penhaligon's Limes and Blenheim Bouquet with C&J's shoes as well. It was a great time, I was living in Beverley and it was a most agreeable English of times.
 
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