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Great White Snark

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No sign of any zipper.
Does he have his suit pants made like sweat pants now with elasticated waists and no fly so he can have easy access to change his diaper?

That kind of wrinkling that Rambo Rambo mentioned might be normal for tight fitting pants but not for billowing baggies like these. Very puzzling!
 

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No sign of any zipper.
Does he have his suit pants made like sweat pants now with elasticated waists and no fly so he can have easy access to change his diaper?

That kind of wrinkling that Rambo Rambo mentioned might be normal for tight fitting pants but not for billowing baggies like these. Very puzzling!
He's lost some weight, but his suits are clearly designed for comfort and the onlooker be damned.
 

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The sharpness of the photo is too low to be able to say it with certainty, but if you enlarge it several times, you can see what looks like a zipper. Also unthinkable that a self-regarding person as Trump wouldn't bother to go around that way. By the way, the sleeves are horribly too long, even considering the loose general fitting of the suit.
 

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Probably a dying expression now, but a "Jackie Howe" was Australian slang for a singlet (particularly a blue singlet), affectionately named after the world champion shearer:

 

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I had no idea these places were such a big industry! I thought they were like little evening hustle gigs by wannabe Crompers and Svens.
venture capital money is big business
 

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It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
 

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Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
 

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Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
They used to do very good Merino wool V-Neck jumpers too much better than Smedley.
 

Kingstonian

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Do Marks still do their "made in Italy" knitwear line? Did some decent stuff. I've had a couple of Blue Harbour tees in the past as well. Bullet proof, they lasted years. As good as LVC tees but you could get five Blue H jobs for the same price as one LVC. I always found the rest of their menswear lacking tbh. Not surprised they can't sell their suits.
I have had terrible basic Marks T shirts. The necks stretch out of shape.

I don’t know about Blue Harbour that may change from year to year anyway.

St.Michael was their best brand - 90% made in the UK.
 

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They used to do very good Merino wool V-Neck jumpers too much better than Smedley.
I thought their Italian stuff was better than Smedley. That Smedley stuff is great but not durable, I stopped buying it unless I found it in TK Maxx which was pretty often in the early 2000s. At £15 it was VFM, £100 not so much. You've got to be careful when you wash it and their polos always seem to end up with holes in them pretty quick.

I have had terrible basic Marks T shirts. The necks stretch out of shape.

I don’t know about Blue Harbour that may change from year to year anyway.

St.Michael was their best brand - 90% made in the UK.

Sorry to hear that, Kingy. I think my BH tees lasted about 10 years. Really were great. Never bought anything else, I found their design to be quite dull. I used to work for a sock company that made all M&S socks, long gone now. But those M&S socks then were bang for the buck. Don't know who makes for them now, most likely overseas.

Hard for those middle tier stores like M&S now. They don't offer the giltz of "label" design but aren't at Primark prices either. People seem to want one or the other these days. Though my daughter always gets her kids stuff for school from Marks. Seen it with Next as well. Next in the 80s was pretty much where Drakes is now market wise, gone right downhill since then. Brooks bros. crashed, Fenwicks has gone. What was that chain store that sold Crombie called? Think they had the rights to use the name, Mr. Fish. Damn, its on the tip of my tongue. They finished about 15 years ago. Had a flag store near Cordings. Yeah, tough times for those kinda shops now.
 

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It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
Everyone use to get their office suits from M&S - despite the old man's image - as they were big bang for your buck. The BB's button-downs in the early 90s were good too. Other than the food court, I think for men it's a bit bland and the quality isn't there. When they reopened the store here in The Hague there was a big buzz, didn't do them any good, they closed down 18 months later.

Uniqlo are the best option for merino jumpers in the High Street now.
Bought a lounge suit from them end of June, falling apart now except for the pants. The socks I bought at the same time are great, serious good value. What M&S should be delivering.
Hard for those middle tier stores like M&S now. They don't offer the giltz of "label" design but aren't at Primark prices either. People seem to want one or the other these days. Though my daughter always gets her kids stuff for school from Marks. Seen it with Next as well. Next in the 80s was pretty much where Drakes is now market wise, gone right downhill since then. Brooks bros. crashed, Fenwicks has gone. What was that chain store that sold Crombie called? Think they had the rights to use the name, Mr. Fish. Damn, its on the tip of my tongue. They finished about 15 years ago. Had a flag store near Cordings. Yeah, tough times for those kinda shops now.
Austin Reed? Bought out now, seemingly only operational at select outlet villages.
 

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It is a big deal because Marks was a big part of the reason for the disappearance of High Street MTM tailors - Burtons, John Collier, Hepworth etc.

Marks used to be quite well regarded for their suit offerings too.
Here's another more comical piece from The Daily Mail on the current state of suit wearing:

 

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I was looking to pop in there next time I was wandering around London, it was interesting enough, my own fault I suppose.

I though Austin Reed latterly sold Aquascutum, not Crombie.
They sold Crombie in their Manchester shop. I can't remember seeing Crombie in other branches. Don't recall them selling Aquascutum at all.
 

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They sold Crombie in their Manchester shop. I can't remember seeing Crombie in other branches. Don't recall them selling Aquascutum at all.
Now they're owned by, or was, who knows with all the changes and companies bankrupt within the same Group, by the same person who own(ed)s Aquascutum.

The outlet village incarnation of (Austin) Reed is dreadful. I like to check out the tat and rank mediocrity down at the McArthurGlen's.
 

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M&S thinking about buying Gieves. What a world.
The Chinese ownership completely wrecked Gieves & Hawkes.

Very quickly they decided to reinevent themselves as a young professional brand, for the office, but in the most bland way possible.

No sympathy, a decade of decline. Can M&S save them? Well, M&S might not be able to save themselves. They certainly didn't do a good job at BB's and they should have been able to do so, as there was massive overlap.

Better M&S make a go for it then no one.
 
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