Temple Of Pawns: The Story Of Temple Of Jawnz & The Morons On StyleForum Who Were Ripped Off

post #50482 of 50906
6/2/15 at 8:54pm
  • LibertineSeoul
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    Dear StyleForum community and TOJ customers,



    We are writing you on behalf of our business, The Libertine Bar and Kitchen. Please be advised that the situation involving Drew Keith and the issues surrounding outstanding TOJ orders has only recently come to our attention. We have used our best efforts to diligently and promptly forward all correspondence received through The Libertine Bar and Kitchen by way of Facebook and telephone directly to Mr. Keith and repeatedly implored him to take care of this matter through the appropriate channels. It appears however from reviewing this thread and the continued activity on our inbox and The Libertine Bar and Kitchen Facebook page that many of your inquiries remain unattended to by Mr. Keith. His poor handling of this matter has resulted in our removal of Mr.Keith from all operations at The Libertine Bar and Kitchen.



    While we are truly sorry, we appreciate your understanding that The Libertine Bar and Kitchen is a separately existing company having no connection to TOJ or any of Mr. Keith’s outside dealings.



    Thank you.


    The Libertine Bar and Kitchen
 
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6/2/15 at 9:39pm
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post #50862 of 50923
6/3/15 at 9:03am
  • brad-t
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    Drew just sent me this message on Facebook. Make of it what you will.
    Quote:
    Brad, I'm still alive and well, thank you for keeping up on my dog - apparently the entire country of Korea has been blocked from joining style forum in the past couple days after banning me. I suppose there were legal volleys from outside points to points and such because it's reached an ineffective situation - here was the post i was about to post, before I found out somebody banned me. If you could post it in my stead, I'd be thankful. If you don't want, understood.

    "Hi guys. Not disappearing on you and not going to.

    The following list is the bulk of the order portion that are now on deck to be made in the current allotment, but each person now will be contacted individually (unless fulfilled and shipped and all checks done) and then recontacted to confirm final make status before the majority of the jackets can start due to all the shake ups and constant changing, and then there is the added step of verifying that they’re not attached to the various messes that are holding things behind. From the next run, the same situation, and so on.
    I already know of a few aberrations on this list such as the spot bought and turned into another jacket, this is straight from the basic make list and I’ve been told to post it so we are clear on what is what. There are orders previous to these names that were skipped over before for whatever reason instructed to us and will get made either in this run or right after it.

    John Dixon 3zip MDR calf black bemberg

    Zachary Tveitnes black lamb 2011 Moto black hardware

    Robert Keller A2

    Evan Ma CM calf ox bemberg alu zip MADE AND SHIPPED

    Taylor Nelson TOJ DR calf oxblood alu zip (confirm EMS slip)

    Jenny Yuan 2011 Moto calf black MADE AND SHIPPED

    Evan Hamrick 2010 DR lamb bright whisky MADE AND SHIPPED

    Colin Newman 2011 Moto lamb black 4pocket -> spot bought by Scott Gardner

    Nagma Abdul CWI45 black lamb

    Stacy Gillett black lamb 2011 Moto 2 pocket

    Saddha Santanaporn 3 zip MDR black calf bemberg 17/19.5/20.8/23.2 - MADE AND HELD - WAITING ON EMAIL RESPONSE

    Cairan Tirona TOJ DR black lamb Excella Alu

    Khanh Vu BCDR black calf

    Matthew Carrieri 2011 black lambskin 4 pocket

    Derek Cam brown lamb A2 bemberg

    Brian Robin brown lamb A2 bemberg

    John Dixon oxblood TOJ DR alu bemberg (confirm sent slip)

    Stephan Harris T1 med grey Bemberg (confirm sent status)

    Gunnstein Odsmundsvaa black calfskin bemberg

    Mohammed Nawas CM black lamb

    Nick Hughes A2 lamb black

    Noah Benjamin Pollak black calf BCDR alu bemberg

    Nagma Abdul black lamb MA-1 excella w/ flap

    Alexandre Lang black lamb 4-zip MDR alu

    Enrique Garcia Gil 3 zip MDR dark blue calf alu

    Nuria Rojo Sanchis 3 zip gf MDR black lamb alu

    Bradley Lance TOJ DR black lamb

    Alphonse Valbrune 2011 moto navy lamb 2 pocket

    Alphonse Valbrune 3 zip MDR lamb medium grey - hold by request

    Alphonse Valbrune CM brown lamb - hold by request

    Ernest Chan MA-1 lamb black (re-confirm)

    Lionel Gibson BCDR steel grey calf suede

    Cody Duncan CWU45 lamb brown"
 
Until now, I thought Drew was the sole proprietor of this restaurant or it was led to believe.
 
The list for people involved in a class chargeback via Paypal so far:

So far...



1 dvskei ($905)

2 chenm0416 ($750)

3 Feji ($280)

4 MickeyPunch ($780)

5 StPauli ($)

6 reallypeacedoff ($1940)

7 wklq76a ($)

8 FireGX ($780)

9 RetroFuture ($803.50)

10 Spaghettimatt ($1700)

11 Nolvadex ($1650)

12 flipster ($780)

13 TheObserver ($820)

14 bakasam ($380)

15 Death24xASecond ($)

16 Demure ($780)

17 veekta ($)

18 SuperFamicom ($380)

19 pyroxyze ($780)

20 ninopwns ($)

21 Danay ($)

22 jim_n ($)

23 segrantz ($)

24 jacobs412 ($1690)

25 Rommel ($)

26 speeed ($)

27 wholeeoh ($)

28 raspberryjam ($780)

29 overtone ($980)

30 oldfashionedbc ($780)

31 povatix ($780)

32 pandazzz ($)

33 SurakiCrim ($780)

34 tunneler ($1660)

35 Hokuto ($)

36 basil rathbone ($780)

37 althanis ($)

38 pistolero ($)

39 Notreknip ($)

40 Lolawolf ($780)

41 Ketawa ($)

42 Roscius ($)

43 SloppyJoes ($2430)

44 sealowe ($)

45 m3 her0 ($2068.50)

46 CCiNO ($820)

47 vedarcrew ($820)

48 barramundi ($850)

49 theuglylover ($780)

50 ludifisk ($1250)

51 krayzeez (1490)

52 510kut ($1065)

53 nbird ($795)

54 goofy12 ($780)

55 PDinh ($1650)

56 Kontos ($450)

57 Yohans301 (780)

58 ro0ts ($741)

59 Gerry Nelson ($885)

60 dieworkwear ($820)

61 panthermodern ($830)

62 darkdestiny ($795)

63 kwonster ($830)

64 ButterToast ($380)

65 hennree ($780)

66 x3tng ($380)

67 Peter1 ($870)

68 Leopardus ($820)

69 Star_Mart ($1560)

70 Benfica ($780)

71 RBNMAN ($2500)

72 Azif ($380)

73 Phobicz ($780)

74 Lobuh ($380)

75 jmichael ($780)

76 lolhowdoes ($380)

77 schultjr ($1553)

78 Melbush ($855)

79 nawres ($380)

80 noirwest ($780)

81 80 rival3537 ($1250)

82 giaour ($380)

83 x_quest ($380)

84 FatCatPhil ($780)

85 binsed ($820)

86 Outlawcowboy ($820)

87 ghg33 ($780)

88 milesshen ($1690)

89 sotnem ($885)

90 theamericanist ($830)

91 ktown ($795)

92 cjchanger ($830)

93 pawnchyoface ($880)

94 arnoldpettibone ($1560)

95 all.gravity ($780)

96 hstencil ($830)

97 jsubhong ($2020)

98 kyusel ($870)

99 nothclif ($780)

100 nkwu ($1200)

101 arthurmouselo ($450)

102 burnsbrightest ($820)

103 sicknastyawesom ($380)

104 glove24 ($830)

105 Lifetime ($780)

106 dstrkt ($380)

107 Blue000ff ($380)

108 stineybopper ($1620)

109 kevinmaau ($380)

110 yozhik ($795)
 
The list for people involved in a class chargeback via Paypal so far:

So far...



1 dvskei ($905)

2 chenm0416 ($750)

3 Feji ($280)

4 MickeyPunch ($780)

5 StPauli ($)

6 reallypeacedoff ($1940)

7 wklq76a ($)

8 FireGX ($780)

9 RetroFuture ($803.50)

10 Spaghettimatt ($1700)

11 Nolvadex ($1650)

12 flipster ($780)

13 TheObserver ($820)

14 bakasam ($380)

15 Death24xASecond ($)

16 Demure ($780)

17 veekta ($)

18 SuperFamicom ($380)

19 pyroxyze ($780)

20 ninopwns ($)

21 Danay ($)

22 jim_n ($)

23 segrantz ($)

24 jacobs412 ($1690)

25 Rommel ($)

26 speeed ($)

27 wholeeoh ($)

28 raspberryjam ($780)

29 overtone ($980)

30 oldfashionedbc ($780)

31 povatix ($780)

32 pandazzz ($)

33 SurakiCrim ($780)

34 tunneler ($1660)

35 Hokuto ($)

36 basil rathbone ($780)

37 althanis ($)

38 pistolero ($)

39 Notreknip ($)

40 Lolawolf ($780)

41 Ketawa ($)

42 Roscius ($)

43 SloppyJoes ($2430)

44 sealowe ($)

45 m3 her0 ($2068.50)


46 CCiNO ($820)

47 vedarcrew ($820)

48 barramundi ($850)

49 theuglylover ($780)

50 ludifisk ($1250)

51 krayzeez (1490)

52 510kut ($1065)

53 nbird ($795)

54 goofy12 ($780)

55 PDinh ($1650)

56 Kontos ($450)

57 Yohans301 (780)

58 ro0ts ($741)

59 Gerry Nelson ($885)

60 dieworkwear ($820)

61 panthermodern ($830)

62 darkdestiny ($795)

63 kwonster ($830)

64 ButterToast ($380)

65 hennree ($780)

66 x3tng ($380)

67 Peter1 ($870)

68 Leopardus ($820)

69 Star_Mart ($1560)

70 Benfica ($780)

71 RBNMAN ($2500)

72 Azif ($380)

73 Phobicz ($780)

74 Lobuh ($380)

75 jmichael ($780)

76 lolhowdoes ($380)

77 schultjr ($1553)

78 Melbush ($855)

79 nawres ($380)

80 noirwest ($780)

81 80 rival3537 ($1250)

82 giaour ($380)

83 x_quest ($380)

84 FatCatPhil ($780)

85 binsed ($820)

86 Outlawcowboy ($820)

87 ghg33 ($780)

88 milesshen ($1690)

89 sotnem ($885)

90 theamericanist ($830)

91 ktown ($795)

92 cjchanger ($830)

93 pawnchyoface ($880)

94 arnoldpettibone ($1560)

95 all.gravity ($780)

96 hstencil ($830)

97 jsubhong ($2020)

98 kyusel ($870)

99 nothclif ($780)

100 nkwu ($1200)

101 arthurmouselo ($450)

102 burnsbrightest ($820)

103 sicknastyawesom ($380)

104 glove24 ($830)

105 Lifetime ($780)

106 dstrkt ($380)

107 Blue000ff ($380)

108 stineybopper ($1620)

109 kevinmaau ($380)

110 yozhik ($795)

Holy damn! That's a lot of money
 
So the Stockholm Syndrome sufferers that still think maybe it'll be different this time and they'll get their order...are not really on that list, right?

Temple of Pawns! :rofl:Good one Rambo:hi:
 
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Those with more than 2 grand outstanding are laughable. No reason to order more than one item from someone outside of this country with no standing brick and mortar store, and an unknown identity other than instagram/tumblr.

Did they actually file the paypal charge back?
 
Want to keep a log of all the apologist morons in the thread. Starting with this idiot:

The new official TOJ thread - updates, complaints, etc... - Page 3396

post #50935 of 50970
6/3/15 at 10:03am

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruff



+1



Quote:
Originally Posted by ter1413


No.
He has had 2 years to breathe.
Since he is not involved with the "operations" at the restaurant, he can get down to ToJ biz if he is even remotely serious.

Have you not been following this thread? Every time customers give him room to breathe(after he posts an update), nothing happens.


Just suggesting that we don't want to scare him off by being rude, that's all..



 
Here's another one:

The new official TOJ thread - updates, complaints, etc... - Page 3397


post #50953 of 50977
6/3/15 at 10:23am

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruff

Like Ter and I keep saying, grind this guy down until you get some sort of satisfaction, whether it's your money back, your jacket, or watching his life fall apart. Really, folks - with the level of fanboyism Drew Keith had, he could have approached Visvim-like levels of cult status and probably easily achieved his financial goals. Instead, he completely fucking blew it ALL up. Now Hiroki just laughs at his pretension.

This is the worst part - TOJ was really something special. My goat A-2 is one of my all time fave clothing items, and if he made everything right and started fresh I'd definitely order some more pieces. D ditching it to work at a restaurant of all things is basically like MJ playing baseball - hopefully a 72-10 comeback will follow
 
Still wanting to order more from him? This deserves the biggest facepalm.

Situation such as this deserves "stupid begets stupid"
 
This is really like the nutters that get their hand bit off by their pit bull, but insist that it's a nice puppy and he was just scared. Stop dreaming, fools! He's an incorrigible crook that could not care less about you or your order. He never did and he never will. Deal with it!
 
Drew's Instagram handle is Jeongkabi. I think he changed it recently so no one can find him. Not sure if it means anything in Korean, could be his real name.

ter1413 you could throw this on SF. lol
 
How long will Drew keep the facade going? I mean is it just a legal maneuver because he knows no one, except a handful of die-hard idiots, believes his bullshit anymore.

Drew saying he doesn't know how to reach Fok was hilarious !
 
Isn't the whole Affiliate Vendor thing a misleading business practice anyways? Just call them advertisers.
 
SF/ToJ Paypal contact: "Hello, may I speak to a supervisor."
Paypal: "Sure please hold. Connecting..."
SF/ToJ Paypal contact: "Hello, I'm calling about the ToJ Paypal dispute. Hello? Hello?

Paypal is an eBay subsidiary, maybe there could be an alternative approach to get someone's attention.
 
Isn't the whole Affiliate Vendor thing a misleading business practice anyways? Just call them advertisers.

Even if they were called advertisers what needs to be done is make it clear to members that SF takes no responsibility for trainwrecks or clusterfucks until they are fully and completely developed and then and only then will SF wade in and suggest that - having been involved with many companies - that the fuckups should really employ sound business strategies like basic accounting, actually delivering product and not ripping customers off.
 
Screwed buyer list at over 140 now and over $100k, you think they would've made this list last year.
 
Fok confirming that Drew could easily contact him

Originally Posted by LA Guy

Well, I took South Korea off the regional registration ban. I may still need to reinstate it, For a week or so, we had a deluge of spam from Korea, and the regional registration ban was the only way to stem the tide. In any case, you can always re-register using your facebook account. In fact, if Drew were to register, I would very much appreciate if he were to do so using his confirmed facebook account.

And ftr, Drew has the Styleforum email. I just searched our gmail, and there has been correspondence between Drew and Styleforum dating back as far as 2011, at least. He also has my personal email with correspondance dating back to 2009 (we were going to work on a rolltop bag together) and also, we are personal friends on Facebook (I just checked, and he has not unfriended me) so I am not sure why he finds it difficult to contact me.

In any case, if he wishes to contact me via email, he can use the styleforumnet at gmail account.

Cheers,

Fok.
 

#51073 of 511322 hours ago
Understatesman

Quote:
Originally Posted by nahneun

have you read any of his articles? he's a terrible journalist who relies solely on sensationalist pieces that are heavily euro-centric in pov.


As a former newspaperman myself of 14 years, so what? Can he help publicize the issue?



YES HE FUCKIN' CAN. Good god, you people are fucking idiots sometimes. You need all the help you can get right now and instead choose to distract yourself with masturbatory ego-stroking.
 
I wonder if someone would ask Charly if Drew was telling the truth about $1M in orders coming in after announcing closing of TOJ mtm orders. I mean if he managed to fulfill 80% of that (which seems really strange considering so many people with mid 2013 orders without jackets) then why would he crash and burn himself over the remaining 20%? If Drew were lying about the sales number then Charly would be complicit in the fraud ever since Drew made that post many months ago.
 

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