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How do we feel about Red Wing?
Nothing wrong with the them - at least the higher end heritage line. The Gentleman Traveler, or whatever they are calling it now, is a classic for good reason. I can’t speak to their true workboots, but both actual workers and Americana nerds seem to like them.

If you have the money, I’d still suggest going custom with something from the PNW trinity (Whites, Wesco, Nick’s). Overbuilt and more than you’ll ever need, but something special.

What RW model are you looking at?
 
Nothing wrong with the them - at least the higher end heritage line. The Gentleman Traveler, or whatever they are calling it now, is a classic for good reason. I can’t speak to their true workboots, but both actual workers and Americana nerds seem to like them.

If you have the money, I’d still suggest going custom with something from the PNW trinity (Whites, Wesco, Nick’s). Overbuilt and more than you’ll ever need, but something special.

Might be overkill. I just want a pair of winter shoes that are more of a beater pair than my EGs

What RW model are you looking at?

 
I’m probably the wrong person to ask: not a fan of those wedge sole, moc toe work boots. But if that’s your jam, RW are a good brand and those seem to check all the boxes for the style.
 
However, wedge soles also have minimal texture, which makes them not the best choice of winter footwear if you live in an area where a lot of moisture accumulates in the form of rain, snow or ice in winter months.

 
I just had a quick look at the Red Wing site and I didn’t see the GTs (since renamed Beckman) there anymore! Those and the Alden Indies were once the gold standard for casual boots.
 
Some bloke selling these used John Lobb for $150
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Might be overkill. I just want a pair of winter shoes that are more of a beater pair than my EGs



Red Wing are well made, have robust leathers, and are very comfortable once broken in. Some people whine. about the harsh break in, but I've never experienced anything harsh. The wedge sole is a softer ride compared to their nitrile sole. I think they omit shanks in their wedges. A solid, no nonsense American work boot.

I'm not sure why you don't choose a 6 inch boot (7 eyelet) if you are looking at moc toes. 10 eyelet is way more of a pain for on/off and is not going to have. much more winter protection.

I'm digging black wedge soles.
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You certainly don't need to join the fad and go the PWA bookmaker route (NIck's, White's, et al). Overkill and often more uncomfortable because they have more rigid arch and overall construction.
 
I definitely prefer the firmer arch in PNW boots along with the soft lining, but there’s nothing wrong with Red Wing (still don’t like the look of mocs though).
 
 
Blacksmith is a nice boot. I have it in a waxed rough out. It is on the RW #8 last. You need to try them on. In most cases you will need to size down 1/2 to 1 full size from Brannock.

I am a US 9 and went with an RW 8 in the Blacksmith.
 
I definitely prefer the firmer arch in PNW boots along with the soft lining, but there’s nothing wrong with Red Wing (still don’t like the look of mocs though).
I don’t know what their cuts are like these days but the extra wide widths used to have very odd toe box cuts. I could never find a crepe sole model that worked. Iron ranger either.
 
Please let me know if this is not the right thread, but I have a polish question. I have a pair of Chelsea in medium brown museum calf from Meermin and I'm not sure what polish to use on it. I don't want to use neutral because I have a few scuffs to conceal. I'm afraid a medium brown polish might take away the lighter part of the shoe, but I'm debating whether using light brown or another color on them. Insights appreciated.
 
Please let me know if this is not the right thread, but I have a polish question. I have a pair of Chelsea in medium brown museum calf from Meermin and I'm not sure what polish to use on it. I don't want to use neutral because I have a few scuffs to conceal. I'm afraid a medium brown polish might take away the lighter part of the shoe, but I'm debating whether using light brown or another color on them. Insights appreciated.
the museum finish is integral to the shoe so you cannot ruin it unless you use a cleaner that acts as a stripper or go crazy with dark cream and layers of wax.

e.g., Saphir Renomat - NO but Renovateur - Yes. Regular conditioning/nourishment and buffing without polishing until you need to because of scuffs. But don't over-condition.

Neutral cream/wax can leave a dull film and if you cake on too much, it can flake at where the shoe creases. others will say its no big deal.

creams have more pigment than wax, so go lightly if/when needed. that means a small amount and going one shade lighter than the (dark) colour. you should go lightly on the wax as well. you can use the same colour wax, apply it sparingly then rub and buff to not dull down the lighter bits. but if you are worried, use one shade lighter. for the sake of the lighter. bits.

museum calf varies between brands. Big Johnny Lobb changed the colour on the dark brown museum calf one year and using the old dark brown was too dark.
 
I used the Boot black artist palette cream on the museum calf of my big Johnny Lobb, bad idea. Darkened them slightly, and the museum calf has never looked as striking since.

Yep, clear wax can leave a while film and less deep look where the clear can be seen on the surface.
 
the museum finish is integral to the shoe so you cannot ruin it unless you use a cleaner that acts as a stripper or go crazy with dark cream and layers of wax.

e.g., Saphir Renomat - NO but Renovateur - Yes. Regular conditioning/nourishment and buffing without polishing until you need to because of scuffs. But don't over-condition.

Neutral cream/wax can leave a dull film and if you cake on too much, it can flake at where the shoe creases. others will say its no big deal.

creams have more pigment than wax, so go lightly if/when needed. that means a small amount and going one shade lighter than the (dark) colour. you should go lightly on the wax as well. you can use the same colour wax, apply it sparingly then rub and buff to not dull down the lighter bits. but if you are worried, use one shade lighter. for the sake of the lighter. bits.

museum calf varies between brands. Big Johnny Lobb changed the colour on the dark brown museum calf one year and using the old dark brown was too dark.
I appreciate it. I went a shade lighter with cognac and it came out pretty good.
 
Bernhard Roetzel has visited the Ludwig Reiter factory.

 
Bernhard Roetzel has visited the Ludwig Reiter factory.

Like Nixon in china all over again.
 
Hey Dropbear Dropbear when the hell did Wesco start making a service boot? Who doesn't make a service boot now?

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Is that the ‘collaboration’ with Standard and Strange? I don’t think they have any on their own webstore. They look a lot more substantial than White’s service boots. Just wait … we will see Shoey extolling the virtues of the new Big Johnny Lobb Service Boot very soon 🤣
 
Is that the ‘collaboration’ with Standard and Strange? I don’t think they have any on their own webstore. They look a lot more substantial than White’s service boots. Just wait … we will see Shoey extolling the virtues of the new Big Johnny Lobb Service Boot very soon 🤣
it's a collaboration with Brooklyn Clothing. Seems they are doing many collabs.

I think if The Shooman The Shooman had service boots they would be Lattanzi.
 
^^^

Yep, a big Lattanzi fan here. Was watching Kirby's video of his new Canon bespoke this morning and was thinking how much nicer my Lattanzi's are than any of those shoes, and not even the mighty Japanese bespoke can compare. Lattanzi also uses a special leather that develops a natural patina very quickly, and none of the other highend shoes I have experienced have near that ability. No-one does what he does. His shoes are really stunning works of art. Of course igents will never understand Lattanzi because they aren't at the level of enlightenment required, and thank goodness for that.

 
Interesting! I was thinking antique cognac, regular welt?

Already have a alt wien oxblood, with 270 goiser.
3.5 years old and worn to the point of sending them in for a resole.
Seems reasonable to add another pair.

...was actually planning to add a brown alt wien boot for next winter. So a shoe in a similar makeup, might be a but much.
 
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Started watching this early this morning. Only watched 9 minutes and were gritting my teeth as l always do with AO videos. Will finish it later.

Our old mates....junioor shoe boys at best, well out of their depth, talking nonsense. Good guys, but watching this video is a bit tortuous. If anyone enjoys watching boring shoo nerds being enthusiastic about shoos, watch this video. I love watching junioor shooman on their shoo journeys, it reminds me of the good old days when l was still climbing the ladder.

 
Started watching this early this morning. Only watched 9 minutes and were gritting my teeth as l always do with AO videos. Will finish it later.

Our old mates....junioor shoe boys at best, well out of their depth, talking nonsense. Good guys, but watching this video is a bit tortuous. If anyone enjoys watching boring shoo nerds being enthusiastic about shoos, watch this video. I love watching junioor shooman on their shoo journeys, it reminds me of the good old days when l was still climbing the ladder.


That guy is either an enthusiastic amateur or a dreadful professional salesman.
 

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