Sammy Ambrose
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Can't you find a way of stopping Shooey from watching this? By the time he's sorted out all the iGents there will be only Crusty left.
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Can't you find a way of stopping Shooey from watching this? By the time he's sorted out all the iGents there will be only Crusty left.
Thank Goodness for that. If you'd decided to adopt any of those tricks to establish who was the Daddy, there would have been screams galore on Ask Andy About Aching A**hole* and Smashed F***ers.I had to turn the video off after a short while, far too much foul language. When l hear the F word I always turn things off straight away. Even the S word will make me turn something off.
Of course there are different opinions about that, all legitimate, but it's undisputed that a loafer is NOT a formal style, and a plain oxford is the most suitable match with a suit. Of course it depends much on the last and colour, whether or not you can "dare" a loafer with a suit: a plain, sleek black one being noticeably more appropriate than a typical cognac penny loafer, possibly in cordovan.
Nowadays we see all sorts of disgraces, like suits with sneakers, but whether it's stylish appropriate, is a different matter.
No. For many men it won't matter if they wear tassle loafers, but for Thruth it will matter . Thruth will always be an exception to the rule. He is too manly to pull off tassle loafers.
Yes, loafers with suits can look off because it is too casual, but sometimes men can make it work, but it is not something I would ever do either.
So, which of the 4 shoes you have shown would you wear with a suit?Lace-up black oxfords have been the most formal type of shoe during some time, but it has not been always like that and it's a pure convention that has no rationing behind.
If you go a bit back in time, the most formal option is not the plain black oxford but a lace-up boot:
But probably the button boot was even more formal at around that time or shortly before:
And before that, the chelsea boot that nowadays is a pretty casual style was the norm with the frock coat. This one is from around 1870:
And going even earlier, the most formal shoe was a buckle in a derby/blucher construction:
If you want to be attached to mid XX century conventions it's perfectly fine but this is a convention that I (and most people) don't care anymore about.
Yes, loafers with suits can look off because it is too casual, but sometimes men can make it work, but it is not something I would ever do either.
So, which of the 4 shoes you have shown would you wear with a suit?
Thank you. So it might be the case that Shooman spoke troo then?None.
No.Thank you. So it might be the case that Shooman spoke troo then?
Wouldn't it depend on the 'type' of suit. Certainly a mismatch for a business suit in most instances. But there are more casual combinations of matching jackets and trousers that some might wear. (I'm playing devil's advocate here to see if the more creative and artistic posters can come up with something.)I loooove the EG Portland. So light, so soft, so sexy. Not with a suit but linen trousers and a casual shirt. Oh my god yes. So good. I'm getting frisky just thinking about them.
Alas too narrow for my fat plates. I was super sad when I tried a pair on. View attachment 38357
I think if Shooey got it wrong, it's only on the context of his envisioning suits within specific, narrow limits.
I wear my dark oak Picadillys with blue business suits. Sue me.
Nice combination.Loake Thames. 14 years old.View attachment 38361
Not a bad match.I wear my dark oak Picadillys with blue business suits. Sue me.
Looks like a fine job.
Sartodi Napoli Is that the good homosexual? Cary Grant?View attachment 38371
Look at this clueless idiot wearing loafers with a suit.
The people anxious about loafers with suits are those who fear bullshitters might criticise them for a „lack of correctness“. Then: „let’s rather wear Oxfords, it’s safer.”View attachment 38371
Look at this clueless idiot wearing loafers with a suit.
Forget tassle loafers and thin soled loafers (only certain guys can pull them off....you are far too manly to wear those). Choose a proper manly loafer that isn't too fancy. Follow yoiur instincts and you'll nail it.
Let's caputure that oozing and pay for it. Making sure Kirby gets his bit so he can buy a new neck brace.“These just oooze quality, craftsmanship aaand tradition!”
Do you think someone doing that as a “profession” has much personal dignity? On the other hand: if people are unable to learn how to inform themselves while a lot of info is free, then there’s not much to bemoan, I think.Let's caputure that oozing and pay for it. Making sure Kirby gets his bit so he fan buy a new neck brace.
In Germany, this Type of unshoe is a common choice among bus drivers. The soles are so thick that they can probably stomp on them for decades.View attachment 38426
Allen Edmonds has this chunky waterproof one out now. Jarring look, but manly enough?
Kirby's info is free of course. It's all bait for whatever overpriced products he's selling or shilling.Do you think someone doing that as a “profession” has much personal dignity? On the other hand: if people are unable to learn how to inform themselves while a lot of info is free, then there’s not much to bemoan, I think.
Definitely not traditional jodhpurs, but they are growing on me the more I see them: