The Art Thread

[The Ernesto]

We have music and movies, here is art!

Have spent a bit of time at our local gallery in the past week, including at an exhibition from MoMA. Was just a little snapshot of modern art (usual suspects) but enjoyable nonetheless. Had some good conversations with the son who was both enthusiastic and disdainful at different times as we progressed through.

 

[doghouse]

One of the places I'd love to get back to is the Pompidou Center in Paris. I am more taken by some of the War era modern art than almost anything. There's an evil and rawness in it that is captivating.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

The Louwman car museum in The Hague has a very large collection of the English car illustrator and artist, Frederick Gordon Crosby, famous for designing the leaping Jaguar mascot and his art work captures the romance and the exhilaration of high performance cars between the two world wars:

 

[The Ernesto]

Have been enjoying watching the TV show Art Detectives. They focus on hidden away paintings in local galleries with suspect attributions and then try and find out the truth behind the piece. The restorations they do are amazing. Last one I watched had a Brueghel the Younger where somebody in the 1960s had overpainted it in a really horrible way, why would someone do that?! The restored versions are often remarkable, the ability to return them to close to original state is fascinating.

 

[doghouse]

Have been enjoying watching the TV show Art Detectives. They focus on hidden away paintings in local galleries with suspect attributions and then try and find out the truth behind the piece. The restorations they do are amazing. Last one I watched had a Brueghel the Younger where somebody in the 1960s had overpainted it in a really horrible way, why would someone do that?! The restored versions are often remarkable, the ability to return them to close to original state is fascinating.

It's almost black magic.

 

[The Ernesto]

Restoration of The Assassination of St Peter Matyr by Bellini. Pretty severe action here.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Restoration of The Assassination of St Peter Matyr by Bellini. Pretty severe action here.

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One of the techniques of art forgers was to have the fresh painting sit in a pub for a couple of months soaking up all the smoke and yellow nicotine.

Fair play to Banksy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...machine-inside-famous-painting-YEARS-ago.html

 

[doghouse]

We need formby for to give us some Lempicka

 

[formby]

We need formby for to give us some Lempicka

Well, where does one start with the divine Ms Lempicka....?

Maybe with perhaps he most famous painting

 

[formby]

I'm also rather a fan of the German Expressionist Ludwig Meidner and his Apocalyptic Landscapes painted prior to WWI.

 

[The Ernesto]

Reminds me of Grosz post WWI.

 

[fxh]

I’m overdosing on art, painting, sculpture at the moment. Ms. Fxh is an artist so we always do art. She likes to occasionally study stuff for a few minutes, sometimes she’s sketches, stuff and we meet other artists tha way, makes it more fun, but we’re not reverential and can whip through many galleries. Saw some interesting small Picasso’s yesterday and since we are in Toulouse , we made La Trek to see some of his originals. (Note small word play)

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

This is not a bad little gallery for an hour or so for Victorian and Pre-Raphaelite paintings, the Lady Lever Art Gallery, in Port Sunlight on the Wirral. I'll be taking my family there when I am back in Blighty in the next few weeks:

 

[The Ernesto]

Port Sunlight, what a wonderful name.

Interesting looking building as well.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Port Sunlight, what a wonderful name.

Interesting looking building as well.

There's a whole village there, in the garden suburb style, built by the Lever Brothers soap factory for their workers:

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Another good stop is The Lowry in Salford with the largest collection of L.S. Lowry's in the world. You need to get up close and see a Lowry in person, particularly the oil paintings which have a thick surface and contours which you cannot capture in a photograph or print:

 

[formby]

Not been to Port Sunlight for years. Need to arrange a trip there, as well as Portmeirion.

 

[Grand Potentate]

thought you guys might like this read

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/10/art-bastards/

 

[The Ernesto]

There's a whole village there, in the garden suburb style, built by the Lever Brothers soap factory for their workers:

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That is fantastic. I saw a reference to the Levers, had no idea about this. Amazing it survived.

 

[The Ernesto]

Was thinking of LS Lowry the other week when I saw a bit of 24 Hour Party People.

What about a name for the cIub?
CaII it ''Factory.''
-I Iike that. It's a bit Andy WarhoI.
-It's a bit L.S. Lowry.

 

[The Ernesto]

thought you guys might like this read

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/10/art-bastards/

Looks interesting, thanks.

Had heard of this type of thing but didn't know much of the detail.

 

[formby]

Reminds me of Grosz post WWI.

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I've just been reading / looking through one of my Meidner monographs and it mentions that Grosz was friendly with Meidner and would regularly meet at the latters studio.

You can see the influence in that picture you posted which is very Meidneresque to my eye.

 

[doghouse]

Reminds me of Grosz post WWI.

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This was on display at Pomipdou last time I was there, along with a lot of interwar stuff.

 

[The Ernesto]

I've just been reading / looking through one of my Meidner monographs and it mentions that Grosz was friendly with Meidner and would regularly meet at the latters studio.

You can see the influence in that picture you posted which is very Meidneresque to my eye.

That is very interesting, the influence is very clear I think, the treatment of the blast and smoke is the same.

This was on display at Pomipdou last time I was there, along with a lot of interwar stuff.

It was here a few weeks ago, so we've both seen it!

 

[fxh]

If I never see another fucking overwrought painting ina gilt frame, I’ll die happy

 

[The Ernesto]

If I never see another fucking overwrought painting ina gilt frame, I’ll die happy

Tired of being dragged through the galleries over there?

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Not been to Port Sunlight for years. Need to arrange a trip there, as well as Portmeirion.

I was thinking of heading down to Portmeirion during this coming trip, but the likely inclement weather in Snowdonia that time of year makes me think it's not a good idea, along with the slate mine. If the weather´s reasonable will take in one castle: Beeston. Quarry Bank Mill and one of the stately homes of England along with the galleries. Anything to make it not a week at Cheshire Oaks and Marks & Spencers at least twice a day.

 

[fxh]

Tired of being dragged through the galleries over there?

No not really. Ms. Is just as over them as I am. Since I met her we always go to galleries and have seen a lot, also we both now only take half an hour or so to do most galleries. And being in melbourne you , we, get to see a lot of originals. And to be honest few originals are all that different from a decent poster reproduction. I did see. A few Picasso’s in Toulouse that showed a progression from straight up excellent drawing skills to cubism. Ms has seen the Mona Lisa Andy says pffft it’s small and ...

 

[doghouse]

Well, it is.

 

[formby]

Its about the same size as a piece of A2 paper. Its also behind a glass pane which provides amongst other things a corrective tint as the painting is filthy. Nobody, however has the guts to clean it.

Its a mediocre painting made famous by it being stolen, twice, I think.

 

[formby]

I was thinking of heading down to Portmeirion during this coming trip, but the likely inclement weather in Snowdonia that time of year makes me think it's not a good idea, along with the slate mine. If the weather´s reasonable will take in one castle: Beeston. Quarry Bank Mill and one of the stately homes of England along with the galleries. Anything to make it not a week at Cheshire Oaks and Marks & Spencers at least twice a day.

Quarry Bank is nice, they've replanted the garden. You could go to Tatton Park or Dunham Massey which are not far from Quarry Bank.

 

[Pimpernel Smith]

Quarry Bank is nice, they've replanted the garden. You could go to Tatton Park or Dunham Massey which are not far from Quarry Bank.

It's a long time since I've been there and I was in Moreton House at school. Another one: the U-Boat Experience on the Dock Road in Birkenhead.

 

[doghouse]

Its about the same size as a piece of A2 paper. Its also behind a glass pane which provides amongst other things a corrective tint as the painting is filthy. Nobody, however has the guts to clean it.

Its a mediocre painting made famous by it being stolen, twice, I think.

Plus you usually end up standing in a crowd of your 100 best friends.

 

[formby]

Plus you usually end up standing in a crowd of your 100 best friends.

Last time I was there I had no problem viewing it, it was early morning mind. I prefer the Musse D'Orsay which has a nice collection of (Post) Impressionist paintings.

 

[doghouse]

Last time I was there I had no problem viewing it, it was early morning mind. I prefer the Musse D'Orsay which has a nice collection of (Post) Impressionist paintings.

The Orsay is my favorite of the Paris museums. Though I do love the Orangerie as well, I could sit and look at Monet's Water Lilies for hours.

 

[formby]

The Orsay is my favorite of the Paris museums. Though I do love the Orangerie as well, I could sit and look at Monet's Water Lilies for hours.

You should take a trip out to Giverny next time you're in Paris. Direct line from St Lazare IIRC

 

[doghouse]

You should take a trip out to Giverny next time you're in Paris. Direct line from St Lazare IIRC

I've been out there. I'd like to stay out at some point though to see dawn and dusk.

 

[fxh]

Mind you every time I go to Canberra i try to see Blue Poles. It's magnificent.

 

[The Ernesto]

Hoping to get up to Canberra over Christmas as they are having an exhibition of Roman artifacts from the British museum, I've probably see it all before but it's enough of an excuse to get up there. I've also never been to the war museum up there so will check that out.

Love Blue Poles. They had his Number 7 at the moma exhibition here, I was really taken by it for some strange reason. Might have been the striking shape, long and narrow.

 

[The Ernesto]

While on holiday many years ago, my partner and I stumbled on a Bruce Nauman retrospective. We stared at Carousel, were freaked out, and became instant fans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/...on=click&module=Editors Picks&pgtype=Homepage