The knitwear thread

walker

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That is where I get my Dachstein. Sweaters, mitts, gloves. Nice guy to deal with
did a quick research on the rabenhaupt business. looks like they do private-label for certain purveyors. the listing for his own business(rabenhaupt) only offers gloves, sarfs, caps and small accessories, no sweaters.

do the items have a label from the dachstein brand? btw, it is a two hours ride from my place.

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random question.

does this label indicate anything good, or is it a sub-line from the real stuff?

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When l see those Pringle 200 years it is like kryptonite to superman, it makes me immediately avoid them. If Johnstons of Elgin still make them then they are going to be o.k, but far from the real deal stuff. Even when you look at the placket on this below it looks so weak and looks to be no longer reinforced with grossgrain on the back. This tells me that cost cutting is going on, and they apparently don't use the top notch inner mongolian cashmere either because they want to cut costs, instead they choose chinese cashmere. I note that Johnstons of Elgin cashmere can also pill moderately and is very soft, so l conclude that the cheaper cashmere is quite processed and the fibers are shorter than they should be. When l see Pringle 200 years l see marketing being used to sell an average product while relying on their former reputation for excellence. Anyway, here is the Pringle placket, it say it all. This is not the hallmark of luxury, however l applaud their efforts for continuing to make cashmere knitwear in Scotland.


All of the Scottish cashmere is cost cutting these days imo. 12 years ago one could buy $1,500 GBP 6 ply cashmere cardigans from Ballantyne, but these days the most costly 12 plys are only 950 GBP. This tells me that cost cutting must be an issue.


Alan Paine cashmere is no longer made in China.

Another interesting thing l noticed is that it is now too expensive to produce Alan Paine cashmere jumpers in China, they now make them on an island just off Africa where the wages are far below that of China. The wages are so low in Madagascar that they make chinese agriculture workers look rich in comparison.

Medium skilled workers in Madagascar roughly earn $70 - $110 US per month where-as Chinese farm workers (lowest paid in China) roughly earn $420 US per month.
https://wageindicator.org/salary/li...ing-wage-series-january-2018-country-overview
https://www.statista.com/statistics/278350/average-annual-salary-of-an-employee-in-china-by-region/

The poverty in rate in Madagascar is 70%
The Poverty rate in China has dropped from 88% in 1981 to 6.5% in 2012.

The point is that China is too expensive to manufacture in now and Africa is becoming more popular for mass manufacturing. An icon in the footwear made the prediction that mass produced footwear would also be made in Africa.

Even BMW are sourcing countries of cheap labour costs and are now going to manufacture in China, and they are also known for manufacturing there cars in India.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-to-boost-production-in-china-amid-trade-war
https://evoindia.com/bmw-x3-gen-iii-now-made-in-india/

The point is that luxury has lots it's luster and mediocrity rules. Cheap mass produced production with brand names sells! Off shore production shouldn't mean a lower quality product, but it seems to be nearly always the case.

 
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walker

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copied that. many thanks

When l see those Pringle 200 years it is like kryptonite to superman, it makes me immediately avoid them. If Johnstons of Elgin still make them then they are going to be o.k, but far from the real deal stuff. Even when you look at the placket on this below it looks so weak and looks to be no longer reinforced with grossgrain on the back. This tells me that cost cutting is going on, and they apparently don't use the top notch inner mongolian cashmere either because they want to cut costs, instead they choose chinese cashmere. I note that Johnstons of Elgin cashmere can also pill moderately and is very soft, so l conclude that the cheaper cashmere is quite processed and the fibers are shorter than they should be. When l see Pringle 200 years l see marketing being used to sell an average product while relying on their former reputation for excellence. Anyway, here is the Pringle placket, it say it all. This is not the hallmark of luxury, however l applaud their efforts for continuing to make cashmere knitwear in Scotland.


All of the Scottish cashmere is cost cutting these days imo. 12 years ago one could buy $1,500 GBP 6 ply cashmere cardigans from Ballantyne, but these days the most costly 12 plys are only 950 GBP. This tells me that cost cutting must be an issue.


Alan Paine cashmere is no longer made in China.

Another interesting thing l noticed is that it is now too expensive to produce Alan Paine cashmere jumpers in China, they now make them on an island just off Africa where the wages are far below that of China. The wages are so low in Madagascar that they make chinese agriculture workers look rich in comparison.

Medium skilled workers in Madagascar roughly earn $70 - $110 US per month where-as Chinese farm workers (lowest paid in China) roughly earn $420 US per month.
https://wageindicator.org/salary/li...ing-wage-series-january-2018-country-overview
https://www.statista.com/statistics/278350/average-annual-salary-of-an-employee-in-china-by-region/

The poverty in rate in Madagascar is 70%
The Poverty rate in China has dropped from 88% in 1981 to 6.5% in 2012.

The point is that China is too expensive to manufacture in now and Africa is becoming more popular for mass manufacturing. An icon in the footwear made the prediction that mass produced footwear would also be made in Africa.

Even BMW are sourcing countries of cheap labour costs and are now going to manufacture in China, and they are also known for manufacturing there cars in India.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-to-boost-production-in-china-amid-trade-war
https://evoindia.com/bmw-x3-gen-iii-now-made-in-india/

The point is that luxury has lots it's luster and mediocrity rules. Cheap mass produced production with brand names sells! Off shore production shouldn't mean a lower quality product, but it seems to be nearly always the case.

 
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