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Ballantyne's Shawl Collar Cardigan
Ballantyne × Harrods 12 ply
Looks as NOS as it could be!
From the 90's or maybe the last batch from 2001, as the 2008 batch -as previously mentioned -had the 1980's label with the "Heritage Edition" within it.
Master Knitter, is it one from your attelier?
Ps. Looks like I'm set to adopt the antichrist!
We both know that Ballantyne never did a 12 ply cardigan, even thought you were quite obsesive for a while, about getting yourself a 12 ply cashmere shawl collar cardigan.
12 ply is a modern/common interpretation of the classic 6 ply, as it is common calling 8 ply what it used to be called a 4 ply as in the case with the Lockie Windsor. Besides, it is how the seller described the cardigan in his listing.
Ballantyne × Harrods 12 ply Cashmere Shawl Cardigan size L rare.
Search Styleforum, under "Ballantyne x Harrods chunky cashmere cardigan Ivory"
Types of Shawl Collars
1990's Ballantyne Ivory
1990's Pringle Salmon
You bought a box of JoE tissue paper? That is just fucking fabulous.
Both are men's cardigans. I just wanted to showcase the 2 types of shawl collar found in cardigans, the long lapel roll (1990's Ballantyne Ivory) vs the wide lapel that sits flatter against the chest (1990 Pringle Salmon).That salmon shawl is very interesting. Never knew Ballantyne made one like that. A ladies shawl cardigan? Can you please post more pictures of this.
Please, do consider that the JoE box, it is one of his better sartorial knitwear choices.You bought a box of JoE tissue paper? That is just fucking fabulous.
Post in thread 'The knitwear thread'I'm new here, but I've read back a few dozen pages, and it seems like this might be a good place to pose the following questions, if anyone would be so kind as to help. Forgiveness in advance if I mess up any details and terminology!
I've been looking at Scott & Charters shawl cardigans on and off for the past couple years, and even more frequently over the past few months. I've discovered multiple brands/shops they manufacture for (or seem to, at least). Across all of them, I've found the following variations of their shawl cardigans (I'm unable post a link—probably because I just registered—but hopefully it's easy to Google these):
• 4-ply, 3 gauge lambswool - Cloth & Cut
• 6-ply, 3 gauge lambswool - Colhay's
• 8-ply, 3 gauge lambswool - O'Connell's Clothing
• (they also make 8-ply and 12-ply cashmere versions, but I'll disregard those to hopefully simplify my questions)
If I were to handle the 4-ply, 6-ply, and 8-ply lambswool versions, what differences would I notice? I have so many variations of the same question, such as:
• Would the 6-ply be any thicker, heavier, or warmer than the 4-ply? And would the 8-ply be even more so than the 6-ply? Or is that not how it works?
• Both the 4-ply and 6-ply ones say they're each made with 1.2kg of wool. So does increased ply count not necessarily mean a heavier or thicker cardigan?
• I think I understand that multiple yarns (or is "ends" the right word here?) are twisted together to form the ply, such as 4-ply, 6-ply, 8-ply, etc. So does an 8-ply cardigan mean they used yarns that were half the thickness of the ones used in the 4-ply, so they needed to double the amount of yarns in the ply to achieve the same yarn thickness? I know people who have both the 6-ply lambswool versions and the 12-ply cashmere versions, and they say they are both about the same thickness, weight, chunkiness, etc. I understand that cashmere is much finer than lambswool, so I suppose it makes sense that they need twice as many yarns.
• Do different ply counts imply different things about durability, pilling, etc?
Basically, after spending hours poring over photos, trying to discern any differences between the 4-, 6-, and 8-ply versions, I'm not sure I know the difference. They all look pretty much on par in terms of thickness, chunkiness, etc. And I am sure all three are incredibly hefty and beautiful, but I was just hoping if someone might be able to quantify some differences, if you'd be able.
Thanks so much in advance!
You really missed out shooey. That’s right up your alley.^^^
would have bought that the other day, but l am focused on tailoring right now. I like it too.
You really missed out shooey. That’s right up your alley.
You should do a thread on future purchase plans. Might be an interesting idea to run with.Yes, it is hard passing these things up. It really hurts. I could have owned a masterpiece with that intarsia, and it was my perfect size too. It is good though, because l am disciplined; the biggest temptations will not sway me at the moment. I am focused on other big ticket clothing items for the coming years, and everything has been planned out in great details. I can tell you the details of every clothing item l will be buying for next year.
I could buy some real gems of knitwear at the moment, but l am keeping focused and disciplined. I love being disciplined, it makes the rewards so much more enjoyable when one does indulge.
Yes. A "might kop" thread could be fun.You should do a thread on future purchase plans. Might be an interesting idea to run with.
I think you can do better than aero I with that type of sweater.View attachment 45732
I have a thick off-white submariner jumper that just feels a bit restrictive all-over - the way they were meant to fit, but still makes me look forward to taking it off. Anyway, I think I’ll replace it with one of these Aeros when they do a Spring sale.
I think you can do better than aero I with that type of sweater.
Stanley Biggs at £81.00 or out of your budget, Mallochs at £265.00Suggestions? Preferably under $150.
Suggestions? Preferably under $150.
I have one of these from North Sea Clothing and I quite enjoy it. Slightly over 150 though (185gbp). They do run discounts every now and then, and they have slightly different model called the Submariner.
THE DIVER - BLACK
Description Fit Guide Care The Diver roll neck jumper is a chunkier alternative to the classic N.S.C. Submariner. Knitted in 100% British wool, 3 gauge (The Submariner is 5 gauge), with comfortable tension. Inset sleeve fit (The Submariner has a dropped shoulder), deep waist rib and cuffs and...northseaclothing.com
I have the Submariner:
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That looks nice.
I’m still leaning towards the Aero, but will wait to see what sort of post-Winter sale they do.
"Best of British Breeds" Sweater: Hebridean/St Kilda
Buy "Best of British Breeds" Sweater: Hebridean/St Kilda on Aero Leather Clothing for £150.00www.aeroleatherclothing.com
thoase are all yours? the mess made in China is so strange...im hopping McGeorge will keep its promises and it will be made in Scotland from now on, only 1 lineA few interesting country of manufacture labels for the big names.
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Something really interesting below
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thoase are all yours? the mess made in China is so strange...im hopping McGeorge will keep its promises and it will be made in Scotland from now on, only 1 line
Unfortunately yes, but starting with May 2023 at least from McGeorge we hear they will have only 1 lane made in Scotland, their online shop will also be available by thenNo way. Just giving examples of where the jumpers are made these days.
I would highly recommend if the user can save to go Mallochs instead of Stanley BiggsStanley Biggs at £81.00 or out of your budget, Mallochs at £265.00
Unfortunately yes, but starting with May 2023 at least from McGeorge we hear they will have only 1 lane made in Scotland, their online shop will also be available by then