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"Last month Mr Suski talked about fighting the 'Brussels occupier' and Mr Terlecki said the UK had shown that 'the dictatorship of the Brussels bureaucracy' could be defeated by leaving."

Would love to see the exit conditions for land border and labour.
 

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"Last month Mr Suski talked about fighting the 'Brussels occupier' and Mr Terlecki said the UK had shown that 'the dictatorship of the Brussels bureaucracy' could be defeated by leaving."

Would love to see the exit conditions for land border and labour.
exclusive contract to have all their workers come to britain just like it was before brexit.
 

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"Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez pledged on Sunday to criminalise prostitution in the country.

Speaking to supporters at the end of his Socialist Party's three-day congress in Valencia, Mr Sánchez said that the practice 'enslaves' women."

Pretty crazy that every country that does criminalise it says decriminalising will help the women. Grass is always greener on the other side.
 

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If they're going to start charging politicians and bureaucrats for crimes against humanity they're going to have to quintuple the amount of judges and build several new jails. I reckon few in the world can claim total innocence and righteousness.

I would also advocate going to Wuhan to find patient zero and hang him/her/it in reverse crucifixion to honour the coronavirus dead.
 

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People like Trump and his enablers such as Charlie Kirk have spent years telling people their world is collapsing, that Democrats want to destroy the US and plunge it into tyranny and that the Democrats hate them and their way of life.

As a result, it's horrifying but not exactly surprising that people believe Trump etc, and want to take violent action in response.
 

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People like Trump and his enablers such as Charlie Kirk have spent years telling people their world is collapsing, that Democrats want to destroy the US and plunge it into tyranny...

And yet many Democratic supporters beyond the casual voter wholehearted believe life under Trump *was* tyranny.
 

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"The 1,300-page report also recommended bringing charges against two corporations and 77 other people, including three of the president's adult sons."


Including 3 of his sons...no this isn't a witch hunt at all.

What's with this passion for defending corrupt kids of corrupt rulers?

 

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What's with this passion for defending corrupt kids of corrupt rulers?


Corruption and defending your handling of coronavirus are two different things. If people profiteered off masks or vaccines then yes I get it.

But charging someone for excess coronavirus deaths or infections when everyone in the past two years have made mistakes is illogical.

Bringing a case to Bolsonaro because you have a political vendetta is logical in the year 2021, but blaming the guy because 600K people died instead of 450K...a lot of people could be facing judgment for crimes against humanity. Where's the line? Innocence at 599,999 deaths but not 600,001 deaths?
 

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Corruption and defending your handling of coronavirus are two different things. If people profiteered off masks or vaccines then yes I get it.

But charging someone for excess coronavirus deaths or infections when everyone in the past two years have made mistakes is illogical.

Bringing a case to Bolsonaro because you have a political vendetta is logical in the year 2021, but blaming the guy because 600K people died instead of 450K...a lot of people could be facing judgment for crimes against humanity. Where's the line? Innocence at 599,999 deaths but not 600,001 deaths?

allright go read a bit about Bolsonaro and his handling of the Covid pandemic in Brazil. These are not "errors". This is a guy who really went out of his way to impede effective containment of the pandemic in a country with virtually no health care system for a vast chunk of its population. And documented corruption cases along the way.
 

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Bringing a case to Bolsonaro because you have a political vendetta is logical in the year 2021, but blaming the guy because 600K people died instead of 450K...a lot of people could be facing judgment for crimes against humanity. Where's the line? Innocence at 599,999 deaths but not 600,001 deaths?
These cases are not going to stand-up in any court presided over a judge in a common law country. Which I'm not sure Brazil is.

The same with the horse de-wormer smears. We all know what's it really about, it's about political vendettas. They care that much about the threat of Covid, they'll rubbish a possible treatment once you have it, because Donald Trump used it. And that's what it's all about.
 

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The same with the horse de-wormer smears. We all know what's it really about, it's about political vendettas. They care that much about the threat of Covid, they'll rubbish a possible treatment once you have it, because Donald Trump used it. And that's what it's all about.

LOL. Can you please point us towards one reputable medical source that has reliably proven that ivermectin is a viable treatment for COVID-19?
 

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LOL. Can you please point us towards one reputable medical source that has reliably proven that ivermectin is a viable treatment for COVID-19?
Ivermectin is currently under evaluation for the treatment of COVID-19 by the NIH in the UK. The FDA website states insufficient evidence for or against. More research is needed. It is approved for human use in the USA and UK, as elsewhere, for certain parasitic worms - in humans.
 

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Ivermectin is currently under evaluation for the treatment of COVID-19 by the NIH in the UK. The FDA website states insufficient evidence for or against. More research is needed. It is approved for human use in the USA and UK, as elsewhere, for certain parasitic worms - in humans.

Right - let me translate: its not a scientifically proven treatment against covid 19. So no smears. And definitely not related to the Bolsonaro discussion. Stop trolling please.

Arnathor Arnathor - thanks for the poo, feel free to return it to where it came from.
 

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The same with the horse de-wormer smears. We all know what's it really about, it's about political vendettas. They care that much about the threat of Covid, they'll rubbish a possible treatment once you have it, because Donald Trump used it. And that's what it's all about.
No that’s not what it’s all about. Jesus Christ when are you going to give up the ghost on this ivermectin shit?
 

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Right - let me translate: its not a scientifically proven treatment against covid 19. So no smears. And definitely not related to the Bolsonaro discussion. Stop trolling please.

Arnathor Arnathor - thanks for the poo, feel free to return it to where it came from.

No that’s not what it’s all about. Jesus Christ when are you going to give up the ghost on this ivermectin shit?
To you both: directly relatable as regards the politicization of the virus.
 

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To you both: directly relatable as regards the politicization of the virus.

So you feel trying Bolsonaro for his management of the virus is politizicing it, but the ass-backwards stance and approach he took towards it (the consequences of which landed him in the hot seat we are discussing) wasn’t politizicing it?

Moreover, how is having multiple local and global Health and Science organization specifically say that ivermectin has not been proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19, and as such doctors should not prescribe it, and people should not take it (particularly in its non-human form), politizicing the virus?
 

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So you feel trying Bolsonaro for his management of the virus is politizicing it, but the ass-backwards stance and approach he took towards it (the consequences of which landed him in the hot seat we are discussing) wasn’t politizicing it?

Moreover, how is having multiple local and global Health and Science organization specifically say that ivermectin has not been proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19, and as such doctors should not prescribe it, and people should not take it (particularly in its non-human form), politizicing the virus?
Because you Lefties deliberately confuse and conflate, or is obfuscate(?), genocide, death camps and/or concentration camps with ineptitude in the face of a virus. Mismanagement of a virus pandemic is not the same as willful crimes against humanity.

Doctors can and should prescribe Ivermectin as part of any ongoing evaluation in clinical trials.

As you will have read the FDA approval of the emergency use - and it is emergency use - of the COVID-19 vaccines on 5-11 years old includes clinical trial procedures of placebos given to those in 5-11 year bracket who thought they were getting protected and were not. So it wasn't that much of an emergency or threat that they couldn't use placebos on the experimental group. So should we hold them as criminals for denying young people the vaccine that had already been deemed safe for adults?

Whatever, the risk it is not net-zero with these vaccines and that risk needs to be managed and explained and the great unwashed should not be lied to or threatened with two tier apartheid states.

The virus has been politicized, certainly in the USA, and also here to a lesser degree. I find that sad and contemptible and I believe you should find that too.
 

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Right - let me translate: its not a scientifically proven treatment against covid 19. So no smears. And definitely not related to the Bolsonaro discussion. Stop trolling please.

Arnathor Arnathor - thanks for the poo, feel free to return it to where it came from.
I'll unblock you when you prove you are not a bot or an NPC.
 

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Because you Lefties deliberately confuse and conflate, or is obfuscate(?), genocide, death camps and/or concentration camps with ineptitude in the face of a virus. Mismanagement of a virus pandemic is not the same as willful crimes against humanity.

Doctors can and should prescribe Ivermectin as part of any ongoing evaluation in clinical trials.

As you will have read the FDA approval of the emergency use - and it is emergency use - of the COVID-19 vaccines on 5-11 years old includes clinical trial procedures of placebos given to those in 5-11 year bracket who thought they were getting protected and were not. So it wasn't that much of an emergency or threat that they couldn't use placebos on the experimental group. So should we hold them as criminals for denying young people the vaccine that had already been deemed safe for adults?

Whatever, the risk it is not net-zero with these vaccines and that risk needs to be managed and explained and the great unwashed should not be lied to or threatened with two tier apartheid states.

The virus has been politicized, certainly in the USA, and also here to a lesser degree. I find that sad and contemptible and I believe you should find that too.

Pimpi, you need to learn how to answer questions directly, and not go into these convoluted troll rants that are impossible to parse.

Question 1: Do you feel trying Bolsonaro for his management of the virus is politizicing it, but the ass-backwards stance and approach he took towards it (the consequences of which landed him in the hot seat we are discussing) wasn’t politizicing it?

YES/NO ANSWER

Moreover, how is having multiple local and global Health and Science organization specifically say that ivermectin has not been proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19, and as such doctors should not prescribe it, and people should not take it (particularly in its non-human form), politizicing the virus?

ANSWER SHOULD Explain how recognized global organizations saying that a drug has not been proven to work for a specific virus is politizicing the virus
 

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I'll unblock you when you prove you are not a bot or an NPC.

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Because you Lefties deliberately confuse and conflate, or is obfuscate(?), genocide, death camps and/or concentration camps with ineptitude in the face of a virus.

evidence?

Mismanagement of a virus pandemic is not the same as willful crimes against humanity.

No, it’s criminal negligence.

Doctors can and should prescribe Ivermectin as part of any ongoing evaluation in clinical trials.

They are. And the results continue to demonstrate that it offers no protection against the virus. What is your point?

As you will have read the FDA approval of the emergency use - and it is emergency use - of the COVID-19 vaccines on 5-11 years old includes clinical trial procedures of placebos given to those in 5-11 year bracket who thought they were getting protected and were not. So it wasn't that much of an emergency or threat that they couldn't use placebos on the experimental group. So should we hold them as criminals for denying young people the vaccine that had already been deemed safe for adults?

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Whatever, the risk it is not net-zero with these vaccines and that risk needs to be managed and explained and the great unwashed should not be lied to or threatened with two tier apartheid states.

Check the rhetoric and please explain what you mean here. It sounds like you are still trying to politicize public health science.
The virus has been politicized, certainly in the USA, and also here to a lesser degree. I find that sad and contemptible and I believe you should find that too.

And yet you continue to do so. Why?
 

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No, it’s criminal negligence.



They are. And the results continue to demonstrate that it offers no protection against the virus. What is your point?
Was it criminal negligence when Pelosi told everyone get down to China town, or when the mayor of Florence of all places with a massive expat work force from Wuhan who said go out and hug a Chinese man?

I never said it provides protection against the virus. I stated there's clinical trials going where people are taking when they already have the virus. Mute point, as we all know, no one would be interested in Ivermectin if Trump hadn't had taken it.
 
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