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From the WaPo article:

Trump’s conversation with Raffensperger put him in legally questionable territory, legal experts said. By exhorting the secretary of state to “find” votes and to deploy investigators who “want to find answers,” Trump appears to be encouraging him to doctor the election outcome in Georgia.

But experts said Trump’s clearer transgression is a moral one. Edward B. Foley, a law professor at Ohio State University, said that the legal questions are murky and would be subject to prosecutorial discretion. But he also emphasized that the call was “inappropriate and contemptible” and should prompt moral outrage.

“He was already tripping the emergency meter,” Foley said. “So we were at 12 on a scale of 1 to 10, and now we’re at 15.”

Throughout the call, Trump detailed an exhaustive list of disinformation and conspiracy theories to support his position. He claimed without evidence that he had won Georgia by at least a half-million votes. He floated a barrage of assertions that have been investigated and disproved: that thousands of dead people voted; that an Atlanta election worker scanned 18,000 forged ballots three times each and “100 percent” were for Biden; that thousands more voters living out of state came back to Georgia illegally just to vote in the election.

“So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this,” Trump said. “And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it, and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people who don’t want to find answers.”

Trump did most of the talking on the call. He was angry and impatient, calling Raffensperger a “child” and “either dishonest or incompetent” for not believing there was widespread ballot fraud in Atlanta — and twice calling himself a “schmuck” for endorsing Kemp, whom Trump holds in particular contempt for not embracing his claims of fraud.
 

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If people choose to look. That’s the problem.

It’s like hanging chads and the misuse of postal votes in the U.K.
Maybe they will look. It seems Ted Cruz and other Republicans may challenge disputed votes.


The above is from the left wing Grauniad. So it should not be considered as Trump-supporting fake news.
 

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Maybe they will look. It seems Ted Cruz and other Republicans may challenge disputed votes.


The above is from the left wing Grauniad. So it should not be considered as Trump-supporting fake news.
You probably aren't aware, but the results have all been audited and have hand recounts, multiple times in several cases. This was back in November in fact.

The "looking" has long since been done.
 

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You probably aren't aware, but the results have all been audited and have hand recounts, multiple times in several cases. This was back in November in fact.

The "looking" has long since been done.

No, proper audits haven't been done because the states haven't released the voting machines for audits in most states. They won't release the voting machines because the fraud will be exposed.

Only 22 voting machines have been allowed to be audited, and massive voter fraud was discovered.

Kingstonian Kingstonian , don't be swayed with the fake news from Washington Post being posted here. Use your common sense. Security agencies have revealed the fraud from 22 voting machine audits, and the other districts and states refuse to give auditors access to the rest of the voting machines. Big coverups going on. What are they hiding? Their actions speak loudly, they are actions of guilty people.

Lots of other evidence of voter fraud l haven't even bothered to post. Sydney Powell released a very detailed document on voter fraud yesterday, and many people testifying under oath about them witnessing voter fraud taking place. Where there is smoke there is fire, especially with all the evidence being presented.
 
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Here is fake news Washington Post trying to fool the people again by twisting the information. Lots of blowing things out of proportion here. The recording doesn't indicate anything of the sort that was discussed in the news article.

Wanting to find 11,000 votes doesn't indicate fraud. Fraud is when cheating is discussed and the process used. Wake up guys, don't be so gullible. The Washington Post have nothing on Trump...if they did they would post meaty evidence against him, not just a vague phonecall. .


The article are the acts of a desperate group who have nothing else. That won't save them, soon the traitors will be hung out to dry.


So you guys present that as your evidence v's my links l present as evidence.

Your link
1). vague fake news article

My links
1). security agency scientific report demonstrating evidence of voter fraud,
2). military expert in computers who has tracked voting fraud for the last 4 years reporting to a formal inquiry under oath,
3). demonstration of a voting machine giving false results.



Wake up guys, you've been drinking the Koolaid again. Common sense will tell you whose links are more credible.

I won't be posting much in this thread anymore. I have done my part in this thread, now it is up the people here to find out the truth for themselves.
 
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“The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived,” they wrote.

 

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“The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived,” they wrote.

Excellent. Sanity rules.
 

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I wonder if Trump will end up with a pair of shoos named after him. I have a pair of Loake Churchill and Cheaney Asquith. Trickers Trump?

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You guys should wager a new pair of Big Daddy Shoos on who will be inaugurated in just over two weeks.

It will be Trump of course. We need 4 more years.

Just one last note about the hack job the Washington Post did on releasing Trump making those statements about getting 11,000 votes.

Remember the old rule guys; never trust media which chops up conversations taking bits of pieces here and there. CONTEXT is very important, and accepting a butchered recording as evidence of Trump voter fraud is very naive.

Just keeping it real guys.

Oh, and now there is this.

Exclusive: over 423,000 votes removed from Trump in Pennsylvania, data scientists say​



The Democrats thought they would get away with voter fraud, but it is going to come back to bite them. Biden is toast! Seems like 140 republicans are going to protest the electoral college vote, and about 1,000,000 are set to protest outside congress. Trump is a fighter and he is going to sort this out.
 

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I wonder if Trump will end up with a pair of shoos named after him. I have a pair of Loake Churchill and Cheaney Asquith. Trickers Trump?

Trump doesn't do clunky shoos, he does smooth elegant Italian shoos. When he gets another 4 years we can put money towards a new pair of Artioli for him.
 

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You guys should wager a new pair of Big Daddy Shoos on who will be inaugurated in just over two weeks.

This law professor predicted 1 year ago that this election would end up a mess.

Looks like Pence will throw out many of the election results in disputed states given his recent comments a couple of days ago (most powerful man in the world at the moment). This will mean Biden will drop down to about 250 electoral votes, not enough to win. If Republicans then push for a contingent election for individual states Trump will certainly be re-elected. This has been my understanding for the past month, and it is still supposed to be a viable option. Of course the demo-rats will scream bloo murder, but they won't be able to get away with stuff this time, tough guy Trump is going to nail them to the wall.

But even so, things could get complicated and the fighting could go on for a few weeks because the criminals will try to win at all costs. It seems this election fraud was planned a long long time ago, and that is why Professor Foley wrote about it in 2019.

It is discussed in the above document (long) or here from 22:40 - 53:00
 
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This law professor predicted 1 year ago that this election would end up a mess.
we got ourselves a real nostradamus over here. like anyone in a grocery store checkout line couldn't have predicted the exact same thing.
 

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"Prosecutors, however, 'would need to demonstrate he knows he lost the election,' Sanderson said, adding, 'I think that's a tough case to bring against an individual who seems pathologically unable to recognize his own loss.'"

Any bets on whether he passes a lie detector when asked if he lost the election.
 

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It will be Trump of course. We need 4 more years.

Just one last note about the hack job the Washington Post did on releasing Trump making those statements about getting 11,000 votes.

Remember the old rule guys; never trust media which chops up conversations taking bits of pieces here and there. CONTEXT is very important, and accepting a butchered recording as evidence of Trump voter fraud is very naive.

Just keeping it real guys.

Oh, and now there is this.

Exclusive: over 423,000 votes removed from Trump in Pennsylvania, data scientists say​



The Democrats thought they would get away with voter fraud, but it is going to come back to bite them. Biden is toast! Seems like 140 republicans are going to protest the electoral college vote, and about 1,000,000 are set to protest outside congress. Trump is a fighter and he is going to sort this out.
So you want to wager a pair of JLP bespoke then?
 

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So you want to wager a pair of JLP bespoke then?
Shooman don’t get into gambling on election results. I just watched the film ‘Mank’. The main protagonist places a huge bet with a movie mogul on the 1934 Californian gubernatorial election involving Upton Sinclair.

The election was notable for false propaganda films attacking Sinclair. However, in this instance Sinclair was a socialist.
 
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