The Trump Presidency

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Meanwhile, Dems have slid so far into center-right corporate ickiness that Bloomberg is being considered as a Presidential candidate.
Need him to balance out all the socialist/commie candidates.

That is the problem when you select candidates by asking them:

Whose dick would you rather smoke:

1. Marx
2. Marx & Engels
3. Lenin
4. Eugene Debs
5. Eugene Debs dressed up as Marx or Engels
5. Nancy Pelosi
 

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Need him to balance out all the socialist/commie candidates.

That is the problem when you select candidates by asking them:

Whose dick would you rather smoke:

1. Marx
2. Marx & Engels
3. Lenin
4. Eugene Debs
5. Eugene Debs dressed up as Marx or Engels
5. Nancy Pelosi
The only question asked or answered since the days of Henry Wallace is: Soros, etc.

The DNC made sure even a tepid liberal like Sanders has been locked out of any chance of becoming a party presidential candidate.
 

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Need him to balance out all the socialist/commie candidates.

That is the problem when you select candidates by asking them:

Whose dick would you rather smoke:

1. Marx
2. Marx & Engels
3. Lenin
4. Eugene Debs
5. Eugene Debs dressed up as Marx or Engels
5. Nancy Pelosi
Obviously Nancy Pelosi because she doesn't have a dick to "smoke." A former business friend of mine now gone to his reward claimed to have had a fling with her back in the days of their respective youths.
 

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Circus with this assault accusation. Reminds me of Roy Moore. Nothing surfaces until days before confirmation. Dems pulling that #metoo strategy again.

Bloomberg is not a centrist, more center than Sanders/Warren/Booker. Out of the recent dems, I actually think Webb somewhat center.
 

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Lots of victim blaming, which is not surprising. If Republicans had any white female voters left, this would've probably driven them away.

Bloomberg is a liberal-centrist, somewhat to the right of middle. I don't know how you could see him as anything else. If there is one thing the left and right can agree on, usually, is disdain for liberals. Except in the current US political climate - where the right seem to actually believe that the current crop of self-serving, ideologically vacant liberal center-right opportunists in the Democratic Party are really rabid Marxists in disguise.

Webb, on the other hand, sits further left - eschewing identity politics for old fashioned populist blue collar working class union organizing.
 

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Lots of victim blaming, which is not surprising. If Republicans had any white female voters left, this would've probably driven them away.

Bloomberg is a liberal-centrist, somewhat to the right of middle. I don't know how you could see him as anything else. If there is one thing the left and right can agree on, usually, is disdain for liberals. Except in the current US political climate - where the right seem to actually believe that the current crop of self-serving, ideologically vacant liberal center-right opportunists in the Democratic Party are really rabid Marxists in disguise.

Webb, on the other hand, sits further left - eschewing identity politics for old fashioned populist blue collar working class union organizing.
Bloomberg's view on gun rights is not centrist. Also I see Bloomberg as a big government guy.
 

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Bloomberg's view on gun rights is not centrist. Also I see Bloomberg as a big government guy.
Perfect example of how he is liberal-centrist and not left or right.

Left and right tend to (some variance for libertarian and authoritarian extremes in both) support gun rights, liberals don't.

The right prefer to cede power to corporations than governments, the Left are often for decentralized, localized direct-democracy government - whereas liberals like a strong centralized government to curb the excesses of the market.

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Perfect example of how he is liberal-centrist and not left or right.

Left and right tend to (some variance for libertarian and authoritarian extremes in both) support gun rights, liberals don't.

The right prefer to cede power to corporations than governments, the Left are often for decentralized, localized direct-democracy government - whereas liberals like a strong centralized government to curb the excesses of the market.
that part is not true.
 

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Will Trump bring 'America First' to United Nations?

"By a fluke of the calendar, the United States this month holds the rotating presidency of that body, and on Wednesday Donald Trump will chair a meeting. Initially, the Trump administration wanted the session to focus solely on Iran. That, however, carried the risk of shining a spotlight on America's isolation on the Security Council over the Iranian nuclear deal.

So the agenda has been broadened to discuss the more generalised topic of 'proliferation of weapons of mass destruction', presumably to avoid other signatories, such as Britain and France, from openly criticising the Trump administration's withdrawal from a deal which the council voted unanimously in 2015 to codify.

Perhaps that memo was swiped off the president's desk. Or if it has he's disregarding it. 'I will Chair the United Nations Security Council meeting on Iran next week!' he tweeted on Friday."

It's USA versus the world...again.
 

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"Trump at one point referred to a reporter from Kurdistan TV as 'Mr. Kurd.'

'Yes please, Mr. Kurd,' Trump said, taking a question from journalist Rahim Rashidi, with Kurdistan TV, about what the U.S. will do to support the Kurds whose fighters played a key role in battling ISIS in Syria."
 

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https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/

I finally got around to reading Browning’s peice in which people were claiming has was saying Trump is Hitler. He isn’t. But he is saying American democracy is suffering.

“Trump is not Hitler and Trumpism is not Nazism, but regardless of how the Trump presidency concludes, this is a story unlikely to have a happy ending.”
 

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Our democracy has been crumbling since 2010 or so, and the seeds of its devolution were planted at least a decade earlier.
Two main things (from my perspective as a rank outsider):
1) no compulsory voting; and
2) only two major parties

The first means that only people who really give a crap need to vote, so you have a lot of apathetic or lazy people sitting in the middle; the second means that both the major parties tailor policies designed to appeal to those people that actually get out and vote for them - they're largely preaching to the converted, rather than trying to change their policies to appeal to new (potentially more moderate) voters.

Of course, I may be entirely wrong!
 

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Could have been written by me or Doghouse. I almost left the party the first time around the same time the author almost left.

Anyway, yeah, it almost perfectly expresses my views about the current Democrats and current Republicans. I liked the characterization of Democrats being strung between totalitarian tendencies and political malpractice.

And yet I’ll probably be voting Dem for both Senate and House for the time in my life in November (and probably a mix at the state and local levels). After some semblance of normality returns, be it a decade or two, I’ll probably stay independent and vote based on character and ability (*sigh* I loved Kasich).
 

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Two main things (from my perspective as a rank outsider):
1) no compulsory voting; and
2) only two major parties
Compulsory voting is not a good thing: you may be forced to vote for even one as in the Soviet Union or a couple of contemptible parties that represent your concerns not one iota. Lots of parties can lead to messy coalitions and an inability to get your agenda through.
 

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Compulsory voting is not a good thing: you may be forced to vote for even one as in the Soviet Union or a couple of contemptible parties that represent your concerns not one iota. Lots of parties can lead to messy coalitions and an inability to get your agenda through.
that's exactly what we have now except without the "forced" part.
 

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And you could always write in a name.

Our voter participation rate is deplorable. I could get onboard. We force people to pay taxes, why not force them to vote?
 

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While I have some philosophical objections to compulsory voting, there is no doubt that it leads to a more informed electorate and a more representative political class.
 

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And you could always write in a name.

Our voter participation rate is deplorable. I could get onboard. We force people to pay taxes, why not force them to vote?
the aussies do it. im sure there are other countries as well. voting should be a weekend holiday where everything is closed. this trying to get it all in on a workday is bullshit.
 

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President Bone Spurs, the chicken hawk twat, l stayed in his room watching TV and reminiscing about past skirmishes with syphilus.

Even the Canadian pretty boy was willing to get a little wet in order to pay his respects:

"As we sit here in the rain, thinking how uncomfortable we must be these minutes as our suits get wet and our hair gets wet and our shoes get wet, I think it's all the more fitting that we remember on that day, in Dieppe, the rain wasn't rain, it was bullets."
-Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
 

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I like Trump’s handling of Accosta. Some people just dont know when to shut up. Brought to you by the TV station that failed to sack the ultimate creep Richard Quest.
 

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I like Trump’s handling of Accosta. Some people just dont know when to shut up. Brought to you by the TV station that failed to sack the ultimate creep Richard Quest.
I knew there was something more behind those highly caffeine inspired performances on CNN's World Business Traveller. Not since Michael Barrymore's Strike It Lucky had we been so entertained with effervescence.
 

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President Bone Spurs, the chicken hawk twat, l stayed in his room watching TV and reminiscing about past skirmishes with syphilus.

Even the Canadian pretty boy was willing to get a little wet in order to pay his respects:

"As we sit here in the rain, thinking how uncomfortable we must be these minutes as our suits get wet and our hair gets wet and our shoes get wet, I think it's all the more fitting that we remember on that day, in Dieppe, the rain wasn't rain, it was bullets."
-Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
I read somewhere (reputable) that there were legitimate reasons for it. They couldn’t use the helicopter (not a WH decision), and if they went by car, they would have had to shut down a number of busy streets for upwards of two hours.
 

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How did every other world leader travel from their hotels to the event?

Did he also bail on Arlington Cemetery today out of respect for traffic?
Good question, and I don’t have an answer. I read it on NPR, fwiw, and he went the next day.

Though my guess is that he took a chopper for Arlington today.
 

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President Bone Spurs, the chicken hawk twat, l stayed in his room watching TV and reminiscing about past skirmishes with syphilus.

Even the Canadian pretty boy was willing to get a little wet in order to pay his respects:

"As we sit here in the rain, thinking how uncomfortable we must be these minutes as our suits get wet and our hair gets wet and our shoes get wet, I think it's all the more fitting that we remember on that day, in Dieppe, the rain wasn't rain, it was bullets."
-Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
Who da real leader?
 
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