Ties: Why? BBC Radio 4

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BBC Radio 4 - The Why Factor, Ties

 

[Russell Street]

Bring back Tie-day Friday! Ties are indeed phallic, and open collar is emasculation!
I really need to go do research to confirm my suspicion that neckwear arose when coats (no longer dublets or tunics) began being worn unfurled leaving that vee needing filling.

 

[fxh]

Ties of some kind or other go back eons. I can show you ties on the Chinese buried warriors statues.
Real men are not afraid of ties.

 

[ElioDA]

The word cravat is a French form of Croat. The Croatian army fought with the French during the 30 years war in the with century. They used coloured silk neckkerchiefs as part of their uniforms, which the French later adopted.

 

[Russell Street]

I can show you ties on the Chinese buried warriors statues.

I need to see this. I hate to co-opt a thread, but I welcome anything else on the other origins and evolution of ties and collars.

 

[OfficePants]

I need to see this. I hate to co-opt a thread, but I welcome anything else on the other origins and evolution of ties and collars.

Ya, there is a tie brand Croata that markets based on this.

 

[Journeyman]

I can show you ties on the Chinese buried warriors statues.

Precisely. I believe that Roman soldiers also used to wear neckerchiefs for warmth/sweat/stop helmet chafing etc.

I need to see this.

A couple of quick pictures of the "entombed warriors of Xian", pulled from Google's image search:

 

[OfficePants]

Precisely. I believe that Roman soldiers also used to wear neckerchiefs for warmth/sweat/stop helmet chafing etc.

Wouldn't that just be a scarf?

 

[ConchitaWurst]

hello tie scientists!

 

[FriendCustomer]

A couple of quick pictures of the "entombed warriors of Xian", pulled from Google's image search:

A new look for LelandJ perhaps?

 

[Allen Smithee]

 

[LKP]

hello tie scientists!

tie technicians

 

[LelandJ]

I like their ancient cravat mini-scarf.

 

[Journeyman]

Wouldn't that just be a scarf?

But what is a tie, but simply a modified neckerchief/scarf?

 

[OfficePants]

But what is a tie, but simply a modified neckerchief/scarf?

To me, the difference is a scarf is designed to keep your neck warm. A tie is not.