Trouble in Palestine and Israel

I think it is quite embarassing how weak Hamas and their allies actually are. Shouldn't there be daily suicide bombings all over Israel, or whatever their particular brand of terrorism is?
 
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belinmad belinmad what's your take on Gantz’s resignation and the impact it will have on the war?
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More pressure on Bibi to take on the ceasefire deal - if 4 Likud members defect (which there's talk that might happen), he's done. If Hamas accepts the deal, there will be a lot of pressure on the party to accept it, and he has no cushion to keep the coalition alive.

Question is will Ben Gvir and Smotrich break the coalition if the deal goes through - I actually think this is a bluff. They have a lot more to loose out of the government than within. Smotrich is polling at zero seats right now.

So I think this is the Biden bet - put pressure on him to accept the deal and stay in power, live to die another day. Then again, Smotrich and Ben Gvir are despicable enough to kill the coalition. Which would also be a great thing.
 


belinmad belinmad & Dropbear Dropbear were you guys not available to send all the videos of “mass rape”, that you repeatedly told me you had seen and were readily available on the internet, over to the United Nations in time for this report on October 7th to come out? Genuinely curious how they could possibly have missed such overwhelming evidence of atrocities such as these.
 
^ I think we already discussed the UN report when it came out in March, no?

Pramila Patten, the Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict

It visited four attack sites — as well as the morgue to which the bodies of victims were transferred — and reviewed over 5,000 photographic images and some 50 hours of footage of the attacks.

“It was a catalogue of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture and other horrors,” including sexual violence, she stated. The team also found convincing information that sexual violence was committed against hostages, and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may still be ongoing against those in captivity. While there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred in the Nova music festival site, Route 232, and kibbutz Re’im,
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Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

There are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence — including rape and gang-rape — occurred across multiple locations of Israel and the Gaza periphery during the attacks on 7 October 2023, a senior United Nations official reported to the Security Council today, as she...
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Ah, never mind. This is a different UN report released today:

The report said militants from Hamas and other armed Palestinian groups had used sexual violence, particularly against women. It reviewed images of bodies partly or completely undressed that showed signs of such abuse. It also said it had obtained reliable witness accounts that described exposed genitals and women whose hands had been tied.

The commission said it was unable to independently verify the accusations of rape, sexualized torture or genital mutilation that had been reported in the news media. It noted that Israel blocked its access to witnesses, crime scenes and unedited versions of recorded testimonies.

The cases of sexual violence were “not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations,” the report said. However, the commission said it had found no credible evidence that militants were ordered to commit sexual violence on Oct. 7.
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www.nytimes.com

The U.N. Report on Israeli and Palestinian War Crimes: What We Know

The findings cite acts such as sexual violence and the deliberate killing or abducting of civilians by Hamas. They also accuse Israel of collective punishment and crimes against humanity in Gaza.
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Dropbear said:
Ah, never mind. This is a different UN report released today:



www.nytimes.com

The U.N. Report on Israeli and Palestinian War Crimes: What We Know

The findings cite acts such as sexual violence and the deliberate killing or abducting of civilians by Hamas. They also accuse Israel of collective punishment and crimes against humanity in Gaza.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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It noted that Israel blocked its access to witnesses, crime scenes and unedited versions of recorded testimonies.
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Hmmmmmm
 
Apparently that is some old tradition:

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the nazi's are blowing up water reservoirs. just continuing to make the land uninhabitable.
 
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The end of Israel’s economy

As Israel’s genocidal war against Gaza continues unabated, the Israeli economy is facing a catastrophe. The physical destruction in Israel from the war has been minimal, but one thing has been destroyed: its future.
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GREAT NEWS
 
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Doctors Describe the Horror of Israel’s Pager Attack in Lebanon

Surgeons and others detail gruesome injuries; many of the thousands of victims were blinded, with fingers severed
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On Sept. 17, just before 3:30 p.m., the small waiting room of Dr. Nour’s three-room pediatrics clinic in southern Beirut was packed. A mother was waiting to get preschool checkups for her three children. Two elderly patients were booked in for cataract treatments at the ophthalmologist office next door. Sitting next to them was a young couple whom Nour, whose name has been changed for security reasons, had not met before. The father bounced a 10-day-old baby on his lap. Clipped to his belt was a Gold Apollo Rugged Pager.
Nour brought the young couple into her examination room. She pulled out a blank file for the newborn and wrote his name: Aiman. She placed him on the scales: a little over 7 pounds. She lay Aiman on his back on an examination table and began to record his weight. As she did so, the man’s pager beeped twice.
“Excuse me,” he said, and reached down to silence it.
As he did so, about an ounce of explosives concealed within the pager detonated, sending shards of metal and fragments of its thick plastic casing out in all directions. The shrapnel tore deep wounds in the man’s abdomen, lodged in the ceiling of the clinic and lacerated the face of the baby as he lay on his back. Nour was thrown backward as the room filled with dust. She could not see through the smoke, but she could hear the woman’s voice shouting: “Aiman!”
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The mechanism of the explosions appears to have been designed to cause maximum damage. Most of those who were injured were men, along with a number of women and children. They tended to pick up the beeping pager and hold it toward their eyes to read the message. When it exploded, it caused damage to both hands and their face.
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