What to do when you're poor

Fwiffo

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Thanks to my holiday and a bunch of other expenses (back to school, golfing every week, etc.) I am broke. What do poor people do to entertain themselves? I have about $1200 for the next two weeks before the clock resets with my pay cheque.

Stuff I wanted to do - go golfing, buy a new raincoat, get some long overdue alterations done, buy a new pair of shoes, go to the opera, go to a wine tasting, go try out some new restaurants...hang out at bars.

Things I thought I could do to pass the time: try to play a video game (but I get so bored). Ring up more vendors and their account managers and demand to be taken out. Ring up people from branches to come see me so I can expense them. Become a refugee at my parents' house. Download one of Rambo's television suggestions and binge watch for a week. Go to one of those places I'm a member of - plead my poverty and hope other members buy me a drink.
 
Have a kid. You won't have time for anything else.

I can PayPal you drinking money, can't let any of our inmates go loopy.
 
Smoke weed
This.

I don’t know where you are at, but daily use of decent herb here will probably only run you $200 a month of so. Cheap food becomes delicious. Walks are awesome. So are parks and museums. Rambo’s TV shows. You name it. Pretty much everything is better.
 
This.

I don’t know where you are at, but daily use of decent herb here will probably only run you $200 a month of so. Cheap food becomes delicious. Walks are awesome. So are parks and museums. Rambo’s TV shows. You name it. Pretty much everything is better.

plus he can get Arnathor to hook him up with the chronic
 
Smoke weed

I'm going to get high so I'm numb to my poverty? That sounds like a great way to pass time.

Have a kid. You won't have time for anything else.

I can PayPal you drinking money, can't let any of our inmates go loopy.

Cheers - I'm good. It's not 1200 Danish kroners I have in my hand. And truth be told I have savings, but I'm one of those people who pay off credit card balances and guilt myself into not having any debt.

Isn't the kid counterintuitive? Said kid would chew up my finances too won't it? That's what I was saying about my cousins raising their brood - they're so busy with after school math classes, skating lessons, swimming lessons, martial arts lessons, this and that they don't even know whether they're happy or unhappy. From the few times I see them every year, they look like some ghastly apparition they're so knackered.
 
I'm going to get high so I'm numb to my poverty? That sounds like a great way to pass time.



Cheers - I'm good. It's not 1200 Danish kroners I have in my hand. And truth be told I have savings, but I'm one of those people who pay off credit card balances and guilt myself into not having any debt.

Isn't the kid counterintuitive? Said kid would chew up my finances too won't it? That's what I was saying about my cousins raising their brood - they're so busy with after school math classes, skating lessons, swimming lessons, martial arts lessons, this and that they don't even know whether they're happy or unhappy. From the few times I see them every year, they look like some ghastly apparition they're so knackered.
You got it all wrong. Get high to enjoy the little things in life that happen not to cost all that much. You think a three star restaurant is good? Smoke and then dip some Chips Ahoy in milk.
 
Rent a flat above a shop
Cut your hair and get a job
Smoke some fags and play some pool
Pretend you never went to school
But still you'll never get it right
Cause when you're laid in bed at night
Watching roaches climb the wall
If you called your dad he could stop it all
Yeah

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
And we dance, and drink, and screw
Because there's nothing else to do
 
You are not poor or broke - you are a well paid person in a secure job with an imaginary very small cash flow problem.
 
Not that I’d ever try the Jazz Cabbage, but really it’s Haagen Daz for me. Or, you know, it would be.

I ate a whole box of these one night recently #noragrets

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You got it all wrong. Get high to enjoy the little things in life that happen not to cost all that much. You think a three star restaurant is good? Smoke and then dip some Chips Ahoy in milk.

Milk? I don't think I've drank milk regularly since my uni days. I know it will astonish you that as a bachelor I don't buy processed stuff that lives in a box for years at a time.

You are not poor or broke - you are a well paid person in a secure job with an imaginary very small cash flow problem.

Perhaps I'll send over my Excel workbook.

not being a Negative Nancy is free fyi

Yes I should be like the poor who are happy with their lot - don't moan in the media about it, don't attend protests to cast out the foreigners/refugees/immigrants who are better off than you are, don't seethe with anger when you see some ethnic minority kid get out of his Mercedes with an LV bag and velvet RLPL slippers and a year one Intro to Biology textbook.
 
Yes I should be like the poor who are happy with their lot - don't moan in the media about it, don't attend protests to cast out the foreigners/refugees/immigrants who are better off than you are, don't seethe with anger when you see some ethnic minority kid get out of his Mercedes with an LV bag and velvet RLPL slippers and a year one Intro to Biology textbook.

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Isn't the kid counterintuitive? Said kid would chew up my finances too won't it? That's what I was saying about my cousins raising their brood - they're so busy with after school math classes, skating lessons, swimming lessons, martial arts lessons, this and that they don't even know whether they're happy or unhappy. From the few times I see them every year, they look like some ghastly apparition they're so knackered.

Actually I haven't found kids that expensive, certainly not as much as people moan about...the big thing is the change in lifestyle and time you have for yourself and hanging around with other couples, which I was never that keen on anyway.

Forget smoking weed, you've always a got the choice of one of the Big Three:

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And on the whiskey front, you can do no wrong with Ian Dury's favourite tipple, but always buy several bottles to ensure there's a rich stream to drink from long after your money has run out:

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Where I live this is the last month to golf before you're lucky the greens thaw by mid March. Have some perspective.

A perspective:

My wife is an elementary school teacher. Because of her personal and educational background, the district assigned her to a school where she works extensively with refugees (about 80% of her class). Off the top of my head, she has three students that are Rohingya, several Syrians, one kid from Afghanistan, and a group from East Africa (Rwanda, Somalia, and maybe DRC). Most of their clothes come from charity. The classroom receives solid funding (the school district is the largest and best run in the city), and my wife applies for and receives multiple classroom grants, but she and I still pay out of pocket to provide nice “luxuries” which don’t get funded (for example, extra sets of clothes for students since kindergarteners still have the occasional accident and some kids, or shoes because kids grow and charities might only provide one pair a year). I know, they’re lazy immigrants, but they are also 5 and their parents have been here for less than two years.

(Maybe I missed the joke. If so, sorry for the heavy handed answer. Not had coffee yet.)
 
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A perspective:

My wife is an elementary school teacher. Because of her personal and educational background, the district assigned her to a school where she works extensively with refugees (about 80% of her class). Off the top of my head, she has three students that are Rohingya, several Syrians, one kid from Afghanistan, and a group from East Africa (Rwanda, Somalia, and maybe DRC). Most of their clothes come from charity. The classroom receives solid funding (the school district is the largest and best run in the city), and my wife applies for and receives multiple classroom grants, but she and I still pay out of pocket to provide nice “luxuries” which don’t get funded (for example, extra sets of clothes for students since kindergarteners still have the occasional accident and some kids, or shoes because kids grow and charities might only provide one pair a year). I know, they’re lazy immigrants, but they are also 5 and their parents have been here for less than two years.

(Maybe I missed the joke. If so, sorry for the heavy handed answer. Not had coffee yet.)

Whilst what you are doing is admirable, there in, is the problem: before refugees are a net provider to the system, it will likely take several years. Is enough being done to train the parents to become useful to society or not? If not, we in the West have a real problem because our generous welfare states will collapse. And then what do we tell those who have paid significantly into the system e.g. here in Europe with up to 52% and 62% tax brackets?

We have some Afghanistan refugees now in our town, they sit around all day in the centre of the village with their Lidl bags. Without any mission to place them into the workforce they will become a burden and ultimately unwelcome. We also have an Afghanistan refugee boy who's in my youngest class, but he only comes a couple of afternoons a week and there appears to be big problem with behaviour and now the parents are starting to move against this and organize.

It doesn't look good from where I am, by all means keep them in the inner cities, but don't expect the middle class wealth creators to grin and bear it.
 
I suspect we will agree that not enough is being done to socialize and train them to be contributing members of society (I’d also argue that the same could be said about your average American). We might disagree about what to do, as my response would be “we should do more” while yours might be “let fewer through.”

In this particular case, due to a network of charities, churches, and municipal government, there is quite a bit being done. For most, it might not be enough: my guess is that being uprooted and tossed into a new country and culture is a difficult experience, and one which for many will take several years to recover from.

I have no nativist tendencies, and I think that’s the beauty of America: that I’m as American as my Chinese colleague who just got her citizenship. That’s also a powerful weapon in the race for brainpower.

I do support more strategic immigration policies with more focus on the extreme ends of the spectrum. I wish to welcome those who need sanctuary and shelter the most, regardless of what they contribute. It is a moral consideration, not an instrumental one. But I also want to open our doors wide to all who are most capable of contribution. Make room and streamline the process for those with PhDs from a legit school or those with a graduate degree in a STEM field. I’d much rather have a Malaysian engineer with an MS from Nanyang Technological University than a Californian with an MS from Cal State Long Beach. Will it drive down the cost of human capital? Absolutely, and the labor market will adjust while productivity increases. For those worried about socialization, immigrants with high levels of education generally have no issue socializing due to their work (a Hungarian biologist will, on average, be much more socialized than the Hungarian owner of a world food market)

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Though this is a thread about one of our members temporarily falling into destitution
 
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I suspect we will agree that not enough is being done to socialize and train them to be contributing members of society (I’d also argue that the same could be said about your average American). We might disagree about what to do, as my response would be “we should do more” while yours might be “let fewer through.”

In this particular case, due to a network of charities, churches, and municipal government, there is quite a bit being done. For most, it might not be enough: my guess is that being uprooted and tossed into a new country and culture is a difficult experience, and one which for many will take several years to recover from.

I have no nativist tendencies, and I think that’s the beauty of America: that I’m as American as my Chinese colleague who just got her citizenship. That’s also a powerful weapon in the race for brainpower.

I do support more strategic immigration policies with more focus on the extreme ends of the spectrum. I wish to welcome those who need sanctuary and shelter the most, regardless of what they contribute. It is a moral consideration, not an instrumental one. But I also want to open our doors wide to all who are most capable of contribution. Make room and streamline the process for those with PhDs from a legit school or those with a graduate degree in a STEM field. I’d much rather have a Malaysian engineer with an MS from Nanyang Technological University than a Californian with an MS from Cal State Long Beach. Will it drive down the cost of human capital? Absolutely, and the labor market will adjust while productivity increases. For those worried about socialization, immigrants with high levels of education generally have no issue socializing due to their work (a Hungarian biologist will, on average, be much more socialized than the Hungarian owner of a world food market)

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Though this is a thread about one of our members temporarily falling into destitution

As for falling into middle class destitution, the author of this thread needs to get married and have a couple of kids and then he will experience the true meaning of earning more and yet have less disposable income as an individual....but's it's still not destitution.

Most international businesses are opened to the pick of the world's graduates. Most of my clients have feeder companies now in India and infuse themselves with the Indian Knowledge Export. They're not committed to training or sourcing local talent. They pay the Indians on short term contracts, so they pay minimum local tax, but also there is the 30% tax ruling for specialist expats. It use to be 10 year, when I got it, then 8, now it's 5 as the stream of Indian labour had become unsustainable.

There's also a number of my competitors who are using Eastern Europeans on short term assignments to reduce tax burden and rates. They're now attempting to pass that on to the locals.

That's globalisation in action: it favours the big global organisations and the local entrepreneurs are basically left economically unviable as they cannot compete against the global footprint of massive corporations who can move labour around the globe with ease.

I actually do have a number of ex-refugees working for me. They'll all Iranians in mainland Europe, all extremely well educated and at the peak of their profession. I've poached them all from my competitors and instead of ripping them off, I've paid them the going rate. The Iranian diaspora is top notch, absolutely well educated, Westernised and deliver.

But the problem is, they're not the norm. I don't have any other non-Western immigrants on board, except some Indians who came over the early 1990s. And I don't see that changing, the latest knowledge export seems to be sadly lacking, but want everything because they think they've managed to hood-wink the West to accepting the caste system by the back door.

We have to be vigilant and yes, we should USA and Europe accept only immigrants and refugees as we need, weighted towards high-knowledge-hard-scientists-engineers and genius types who can deliver something of value.
 
I don't have weed.

You can get weed to hook up poor Fwiffo so he can take the edge off him being a poorz and not being able to golf, buy shoes, get tailoring done, eat tiny but massively expensive portions at restaurants or compete with the children of Chinese elite who come to study in Canada.

Please help him so he doesn't have to beg for chronic from one of his directs
 
My local vape shop is now selling Bitcoins. Anyone can get any drugs they want, now.
 
Yeah I don't need boots. I'm going to load up my iPad with the Netflix stuff that Rambo recommended. It'll tide me over two nights before I scream bloody murder I'm sucking on a bottle in the dark in my own flat.
 
Yeah I don't need boots. I'm going to load up my iPad with the Netflix stuff that Rambo recommended. It'll tide me over two nights before I scream bloody murder I'm sucking on a bottle in the dark in my own flat.
The new show mindhunters is good.
 
Rambo - can you start up a DONATE NOW! button so we can all give to fwiffo
 
Yesterday's impromptu pub and bar hop did not keep me on budget.
 
Oh come on, as if the poor don’t spend all their welfare on booze too. And if fwiff was smart he’d just skip the fence at his golf course to avoid paying the green fees.

I said I was poor. I did not say I was devoid of morals, class nor dignity.
 

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