Who makes Anthony Cleverly shoes and are they worth it?

[verrihappy]

Over at SF, some say it's Edward Green, others Crockett Jones, or even Alfred Sargent. They are supposed to be the pinnacle, being semi bespoke, of RTW shoes. I am thinking of buying one pair but want to make sure they are worth the asking price.

 

[Grand Potentate]

I thought Cleverly made their own shoes?

 

[Journeyman]

I thought Cleverly made their own shoes?

They make their own bespoke shoes.

However, their ready-to-wear shoes are purchased from another British shoemaker. The question is, which one?

 

[verrihappy]

The Anthony Cleverley shoes are billed as hand lasted and hand welted, so not that many Northampton factories can or will do that,minus a bespoke service.

 

[Grand Potentate]

They make their own bespoke shoes.

Ah. That's what I was thinking of.

The Anthony Cleverley shoes are billed as hand lasted and hand welted, so not that many Northampton factories can or will do that,minus a bespoke service.

Are you sure they're using a maker in the UK?

 

[robertito]

This is a sole of a Cleverley RTW: That screams Crockett and Jones to me.

 

[verrihappy]

I was told the entry level George Cleverley line is made by Crockett Jones without a doubt, but the high end £900+ Anthony Cleverley line is made by somebody else.

 

[robertito]

those are beautiful... Could be EG but I am not sure

 

[verrihappy]

Less tacky than Gaziano & Girling I suppose.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Less tacky than Gaziano & Girling I suppose.

G&G was my first thought after seeing the bottom of the brown shoe.

 

[robertito]

G&G was my first thought after seeing the bottom of the brown shoe.

gaziano bevels the waist quite a lot, this one seems to be quite balanced. Actually I have no idea who could make them but they are beatiful

 

[verrihappy]

Some say they are made by Alfred Sargent, though I doubt AS can reach such levels of workmanship and aesthetics.

 

[robertito]

Some say they are made by Alfred Sargent, though I doubt AS can reach such levels of workmanship and aesthetics.

AS used to make RTW for G&G so i dont see why not on the workmanship, aesthetics I am not so sure.

 

[fxh]

Over at SF, some say it's Edward Green, others Crockett Jones, or even Alfred Sargent.

I thought Cleverly made their own shoes?

They make their own bespoke shoes.However, their ready-to-wear shoes are purchased from another British shoemaker. The question is, which one?

The Anthony Cleverley shoes are billed as hand lasted and hand welted, so not that many Northampton factories can or will do that,minus a bespoke service.

Are you sure they're using a maker in the UK?

This is a sole of a Cleverley RTW: That screams Crockett and Jones to me.

I was told the entry level George Cleverley line is made by Crockett Jones without a doubt, but the high end £900+ Anthony Cleverley line is made by somebody else.

those are beautiful... Could be EG but I am not sure

G&G was my first thought after seeing the bottom of the brown shoe.

gaziano bevels the waist quite a lot, this one seems to be quite balanced. Actually I have no idea who could make them but they are beatiful

Some say they are made by Alfred Sargent, though I doubt AS can reach such levels of workmanship and aesthetics.

This is what makes Internet forums so valuable and powerful - the ability to harness the power of the many intellects.

In this small example a question was asked "Who makes Cleverly shoes"

Now in a short time we have the answer: Its Cleverly themselves - or mostly not - for most Cleverly shoes. No its Edward Green or Crockett &Jones or Alfred Sargent or Gaziano &Girling or someone else in Northampton or maybe no one in England

 

[Journeyman]

^ fxh - An excellent summation, as usual!

Over on SF, a similar thread has - not coincidentally - similarly failed to reach any real conclusion:

George Cleverley Anthony Cleverley Models

However, Will (of A Suitable Wardrobe fame) chimed in to say that the Anthony Cleverley range are not hand-welted but that they are, instead, machine-welted:

George Cleverley Anthony Cleverley Models - Page 7

There is a bit of misinformation in this thread. If it helps clarify:

Cleverly has two ready to wear lines. The low end are made by third parties like C&J, by machine. Very few of them make it to the U.S. but the sell like mad in Japan.

The Anthony Cleverly are made in a variety of workrooms to a much higher standard. They are mostly hand made but not entirely. The soles are attached by machine (attaching them by hand would make ACs the most expensive RTW shoes on earth). The make in my opinion is as good as EG's best. Canted heels, beveled waists, toe brads, etc.

 

[Thruth]

When I was at my first Cleverley appointment a few years ago, I tried the Anthony Cleverley line. Did not find the lasts to fit me very well. Very well made mind you.

 

[The Shooman]

Here is what l wrote on Anthony Cleverley shoos last week:
Film Noir Buff Style Forum / Anthony Cleverley shoos are perfection in goodyear

 

[Leitmotif]

So who makes them?

 

[formby]

Elves based in Rivendell.

 

[Leitmotif]

Elves based in Rivendell.

Dwarves, but close enough.

 

[The Shooman]

So who makes them?

I forget who makes them now, but l think Cleverley do some of the work. Maybe C&J do much of the work. Anyway, it doesn't matter who makes them, what matters is the end product. You can't really determine a quality based on what factory makes them because factories will make to quality specifications of the client who contracts with them.

A.C is a very good shoe indeed, it is a really classy shoe. The designs, the last, and the materials are top notch. Better leather than Lobb prestige and Edward Green (regular) and G&G regular. A.C are simply amazing and have a price tag to match.

It took Cleverley 3 years to design the last for A.C. It is different from the original A.C lasts in the old days. The current A.C last is a complete work of art, and there is NOTHING like it in the world today IMO. The A.C's have a real wow factor, they are very special indeed. + they have a narrow heel and elongated waist that is a cleverley feature which adds a very special look that only various club members and aficionados will recognise.

$2,300 for calf and almost $3,000 for shell.
https://www.doublemonk.com/brands/g-j-cleverley/anthony-cleverley-brannagh-cognac-crup-cordovan


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btw, there is lots of nonsense floating around about A.C being hand welted. Don't believe it, they are goodyear welted. The only ones which were hand welted were the old semi bespokes they used to make in a lower grade leather, but they haven't made those for at least 7 years.


When a man wears A.C he is the boss!!!

 

[formby]

Dwarves, but close enough.

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