My view was that the Dutch System is pretty good.It's anecdotal evidence, but you should never ignore this, as often it is spot on especially regarding trends.
Still, not sufficient evidence for me that a one-stop-shop NHS solution will work in USA or ideally elsewhere. Insurance, compelled if need be, from a number of providers and a safety net for those who cannot afford is the way to go.
My view was that the Dutch System is pretty good.
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ok, but why is that necessary. youve already said the state provides insurance. why do you, as a society, NEED to pay a third party to provide additional insurances and take profits off of people's backs.You have a number of insurance providers and you can pick and choose. In essence, they're pretty much equal. There are a number of different policies you can pay for, but there's not that much difference between them other than you can get some dentistry paid for and the first Euros 400 or thereabouts paid for. As long as you have any insurance you are free to pick which specialist is the best. There's no distinction between insurance providers or which policy you have chosen. Nor those who are getting the insurance covered by the state because of unemployment, disability.
what's a 'stoppage'?You are obligated as adult to be covered with insurance. Also some of your salary goes to the state for health services which is on top of your insurance. It's around Euros 180.00 per month with own risk of up to Euros 400 per adult. That excludes what goes out of your salary, not exactly sure what this is, but I pay 52% in stoppages on my salary.
This post makes no sense at all. Its juding based upon cost. Thats it. This foolish idea of superior medical care in the united states that you keep trotting out is laughable. Premium care is reserved for the ultra wealthy and our managerial overlords. People on the street in the US arent getting 'state of the art treatment'. Theyre getting the same dogshit treatment as the rest of the populace. But people on the street in the UK are treated markedly better and they dont have to mortgage one of their organs on the black market for that privilege.You're not comparing like for like there. As an example, here in the Netherlands, you give birth and then you're on a mixed ward with people male and female with all kinds of other complaints and operations. And then you're out the next day. As they would want to be.
You cannot seriously expect those who are under the NHS to comprehend the state of the art treatment in the USA.
The costs in the UK are hidden, but they are there non-the-less.
you get the option of enrolling in a COBRA plan, which is basically your same or similar style of plan but at a market rate. which is often hundreds of dollars more a month. almost 10 years ago i was on a COBRA plan. i went from $150 a month to $450 a month in payments. i cannot imagine what the discrepancy is like now a days.