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Is there another retailer like them in the country? Ben Silver doesn't do the old stock nor are they as traditional as O'Connell's.
 
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^^Absolutely.

I love cardigans, but would never get a patterned sweater (other than the pattern in the weave).
 

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It's borderline. The price is great, but if you have hesitation now, pass.
I have no issue with knit patterns, although plaid is a bit forced. Fair Isle, stripes, argyle, reindeer!
 
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I do not know if patch and flap pockets on a suit are trad or not. This suit appeals to me. Not for the "I'll wear them as separates as often as I will together angle" because I won't.
 

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I thought it was butterfly but was not sure. I am rather tired of the ubiquity of side vents, despite them probably being better for me. J-hook now!
 
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I am not certain either. 1/4 or 1/8 lined, buggy lined I think would also apply.

Anyway, seems like most quality vintage pieces (were lined everywhere but the back, below the shoulders (half-lined?). I'm for it.
 
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apropos of the thread and topic of linings, a recent (two days ago) acquisition. Thrifted, in true Trad style, are both the button down (pinpoint, regular fit, USA made, Brooks Brothers) and heavy tweed 3/2 sack with patch and flap pockets (also BB). My size, both.
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^^ I have noticed this too in old BB 3/2 sacks. I'm thinking of having my tailor add a additional button under the collar to allow for buttoning this all the way up.
I'm about as pleased as can be with the fabric and styling. I am concerned with getting enough material taken out of the waist.
 
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For those that know and understand how a sack jacket is supposed to fit (I am not sure that I do) I'd like an assessment on the below please.

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J Press is having a sale. 20% off on their dress shirts. Anyone own their version of the ocbd with the flap pocket? They offer a trim fit for $88
 

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For those that know and understand how a sack jacket is supposed to fit (I am not sure that I do) I'd like an assessment on the below please.

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A sack should fit like any other jacket. Not tight though like many these days.

That jacket looks too big. Might work over a jumper or cardigan and no tie.

Don't get too many Alterations to a jacket.
I've just finished watching Breakfast at Tiffany s . Have a look at George Peppard as Fred baby/ Paul for someone wearing a version of Ivy well.
 
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The only alterations I'd get done is some slimming through the body. It fits the shoulders, perhaps is a bit roomy in the chest, definitely too big through the waist. The issue with that is ending up with a coat that has an hourglass shape.
I've only tried one other sack jacket in my size (42R) both from Brooks and it fit more of less the same as this. I'd love to size down to a 40 but I need 19" shoulders and I've never seen a 40 with 19" shoulders.
Or I could sell it to a fat bastard on ebay.
 

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J Press is having a sale. 20% off on their dress shirts. Anyone own their version of the ocbd with the flap pocket? They offer a trim fit for $88
dont get trimfit. get tent fit to match the jacket
his point is that the park is not the birthplace of the fkn garment. it is a dinner suit which was brought to the land of the free by some emerekens that visited the civilized world and then it was named tuxedo (amongst emerekens) after being worn there. it wasnt born there kojak. the park merely lent its name to an already existing garment when it was introduced in emerekah
A sack should fit like any other jacket. Not tight though like many these days.

That jacket looks too big. Might work over a jumper or cardigan and no tie.

Don't get too many Alterations to a jacket.
I've just finished watching Breakfast at Tiffany s . Have a look at George Peppard as Fred baby/ Paul for someone wearing a version of Ivy well.
you see i told you not to get trimfit

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and be sure to get collo americano

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Some California nutter has made a big deal of recreating authentic bleeding hand-loomed madras cloth in India. It uses eco-safe dyes that muddle together further with each washing, and I guess the hand-loooming means a slubby "character" to the fabric, despite using decent quality long-strand cotton. Anyway, I had something that seemed to be vaguely authentic in the late 80s and it really was neat to see it get more muted and co-mingled every time it was rinsed.
Anyway, he has small runs via David Wood, and is supposedly sending some off to Mercer, and some GMTO at SF.
Currently, there is leftover raw fabric available by the yard at Etsy, which may be the only chance to get such a thing.
LoominousMadras
 

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I guess this fits into the Ivy league trad bracket, and I quite like the look/picture. However, outside of a university campus do you think this look could be pulled off? I call upon DW's members who are far better versed on the topic to weigh in. I myself can't seem to put my finger on why it is, but it seems that outside of a certain locale/context, a fella rocking this particular get up could end up looking a bit daft.

Is that inherent within the American trad style being that it stems from the East coast collegiate scene? I'm always keen to gain more insight, so any thoughts or opinions would make for interesting reading.
 

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Necro-bumping an awesome thread.

I know I’m starting to sound like a shill, but for Ivy trad on a budget, S&M usually carries pop-overs, OCBDs, flannel trousers, tweed and corduroy unstructured sports coats with patch pockets.
 
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