Not twisting your words. Provide a reference that says what you state as tradition is the only tradition and the only way and the only rule.
actually I don't get your stubborness. I don't need to give a reference about things which are all over the place.
alright, I've been to a shirtmaker for a first shirt. she did the measurements. then we discussed the details. she turned to me and said: I'm sorry Sir, when you are not familiar with the rules I'm not the one who makes your shirts. please go elswhere. I got my shirt.
now go to your tackies and discuss fake tailors. huh