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This moment when you crave for a new expensive piece, dream about having it on your wrist to eventually get disappointed when it lands in your hands because technically it does the same thing as your Seiko for a fraction of a cost.

Really, what did he expect? That his life would suddenly change because he owned a Rolex, and hitherto closed doors would suddenly open?

Nothing wrong with an SNK809... they’re better made than a lot of Swiss and Jap shit 100x the price:

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This moment when you crave for a new expensive piece, dream about having it on your wrist to eventually get disappointed when it lands in your hands because technically it does the same thing as your Seiko for a fraction of a cost.

Really, what did he expect? That his life would suddenly change because he owned a Rolex, and hitherto closed doors would suddenly open?

No one ever that conscious of class, distinguishing oneself from the herd through lavish displays of wealth is that unaware that the watch they're buying is merely a time piece comparable to more cost effective models. You don't sport a Daytona and suddenly regret that oh shit, a Swatch Watch does the same. Because it doesn't on several measures.

But it is quite possible and definitely not inconceivable, depending on mindset and circumstance that a cost effective watch can deliver a bigger buzz than one costing several hundreds times more. Case in point: a Seiko 5.


Nothing wrong with an SNK809... they’re better made than a lot of Swiss and Jap shit 100x the price:

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They need to do another salmon and copper face. Then I'm definitely in!
 
Don't think that line ever came with a salmon dial. You can still get the black, khaki and blue dials on Amazon for dirt cheap, even though the line was discontinued in favour of a larger, more expensive version by Seiko.

These vintage beauts:


 
From the Rolex community on Reddit:

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I love the way he was "adamant on this specific one" but then, after a year's wait, when the AD called and said they had a different model, he was there within ten minutes to pick up a watch he hadn't wanted...
 
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I love the way he was "adamant on this specific one" but then, after a year's wait, when the AD called and said they had a different model, he was there within ten minutes to pick up a watch he hadn't wanted...
It’s not a watch brand anymore, it’s a cult.
 
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I love the way he was "adamant on this specific one" but then, after a year's wait, when the AD called and said they had a different model, he was there within ten minutes to pick up a watch he hadn't wanted...

I wonder how much he will pay for my rhodium.
 
Antisemitism in the watch community doesn’t surprise me, but why the hate on Hodinkee?
 
but why the hate on Hodinkee?

I think some people dislike Hodinkee intensely for a few reasons:
- It's virtually always positive - I actually can't remember reading a negative, or critical, review of a watch on the site;
- Since it introduced the Hodinkee shop, it has a lot of articles about the watches it sells in the shop and so, clearly, it's not a neutral party - this has made it even less likely to have negative, or critical, articles; and
- It's probably been one of the big drivers in pushing "collecting" watches as a hobby.

I think that, for a lot of people who criticise Hodinkee, the third point is the most egregious for them, as it's broadened the appeal of watches and now many people who didn't care about watches just a few years back are now frantically trying to buy a Rolex Sub, or Omega "Snoopy". So in broadening the hobby, it's brought in a whole lot of people who are (rightly or wrongly) perceived to be buying watches simply because it's now the cool thing to do, rather than actually liking watches or knowing much about watches (apart from what they read on Hodinkee...).
 
I think some people dislike Hodinkee intensely for a few reasons:
- It's virtually always positive - I actually can't remember reading a negative, or critical, review of a watch on the site;
- Since it introduced the Hodinkee shop, it has a lot of articles about the watches it sells in the shop and so, clearly, it's not a neutral party - this has made it even less likely to have negative, or critical, articles; and
- It's probably been one of the big drivers in pushing "collecting" watches as a hobby.

I think that, for a lot of people who criticise Hodinkee, the third point is the most egregious for them, as it's broadened the appeal of watches and now many people who didn't care about watches just a few years back are now frantically trying to buy a Rolex Sub, or Omega "Snoopy". So in broadening the hobby, it's brought in a whole lot of people who are (rightly or wrongly) perceived to be buying watches simply because it's now the cool thing to do, rather than actually liking watches or knowing much about watches (apart from what they read on Hodinkee...).

Gotcha. That makes sense.

I think we’ve seen that played out it in so many different little pockets - the supposed tragedy of people’s obscure hobbies being opened up to the masses thanks to the Internet.
 
They also drive up prices through their store being incredibly over priced, like over 100% over value a lot of the time.
 
They also drive up prices through their store being incredibly over priced, like over 100% over value a lot of the time.

I hadn't really noticed that, but I must admit that I do like the way that Hodinkee lists items - lots of photos and a list of "pros and cons" that highlight details such as a chip in the bezel. Better than most vintage/used watch retailers. However, their collaboration with Crown & Calibre (now owned by Hodinkee) isn't nearly as good - scant details and only a few photos for most watches.

Also, basically any older/vintage watch that Hodinkee features in articles shoots up in price as a consequence - I'm sure that pisses off people who were hoping to find a good deal.
 
Just got the Seiko King Turtle, not quite the LX, but for €600 it's a difficult tool watch to beat:

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Edit: the chapter ring is slightly off. Not enough for Seiko at that price range to consider out of tolerance, but I will get it fixed.
 
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How long did that take? Was it done in the US, or was it sent back to Switzerland?

About 2 months. It had a new crystal as well as routine service. It was done in the US by Govberg I believe but I'm not positive. Govberg arranged it at any rate.
 
wow that was surprisingly way cheaper than i expected.

Me too!

Somewhere in my brain I did know that service was free. But yeah I think I paid more to replace an Omega bezel before
 
In other news, over on SF, the inimitable Foo was telling everyone about how he got an amazing Patek Philippe watch that cost something like US$80,000. He got it for this 40th birthday, and was talking about it on SF for months before he got it - analysing the numerals, the hands, wondering what colour strap he should put it on, where he should get the strap and so on. Then, when he got it, he spent several days posting photos of him wearing it around the place.

Of course, being the Foo, the watch had to be one of the greatest, most authentic PP models ever - he had to convince everyone it was the ne plus ultra of PP watches.

Also, of course, being the Foo, something had to be wrong with it - after a few days of apparent bliss, he showed it to someone at his local Patek dealer. The person looked at the watch under a loupe or magnifying glass and noticed that the side of the case looked to be very slightly "wavy".

Naturally, being the Foo, now that he nows about this minor imperfection that is seemingly invisible to the naked eye, he can't let it go and is petitioning Patek Philippe to replace the watch case. He's even tried writing directly to the CEO of PP, Thierry Sterne, but for some reason I simply cannot fathom, has not received a response...

More details here:

 
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Could not be any other way.

Somewhat related, have you seen what Patek 1463s are going for these days? Yikes.
 
Beautiful watch, looks far nicer in person than in the photos, perfect size and not as gaudy as the awful Nautilis. Can you actually buy one or is this one of the watches where they laugh at you for having the audacity to ask for it while calling security?
In other news, over on SF, the inimitable Foo was telling everyone about how he got an amazing Patek Philippe watch that cost something like US$80,000. He got it for this 40th birthday, and was talking about it on SF for months before he got it - analysing the numerals, the hands, wondering what colour strap he should put it on, where he should get the strap and so on. Then, when he got it, he spent several days posting photos of him wearing it around the place.

Of course, being the Foo, the watch had to be one of the greatest, most authentic PP models ever - he had to convince everyone it was the ne plus ultra of PP watches.

Also, of course, being the Foo, something had to be wrong with it - after a few days of apparent bliss, he showed it to someone at his local Patek dealer. The person looked at the watch under a loupe or magnifying glass and noticed that the side of the case looked to be very slightly "wavy".

Naturally, being the Foo, now that he nows about this minor imperfection that is seemingly invisible to the naked eye, he can't let it go and is petitioning Patek Philippe to replace the watch case. He's even tried writing directly to the CEO of PP, Thierry Sterne, but for some reason I simply cannot fathom, has not received a response...

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An oval shaped case for the oval headed dwarf. Thierry Stern probably gets his trousers from Ambrosi aswell and now they're laughing at Foo's posts in Patek's dungeon of disease.
 
Can you actually buy one or is this one of the watches where they laugh at you for having the audacity to ask for it while calling security?

Good question. I called my watch dealer over the phone to avoid the requisite throwing out on my backside. Then had to wait almost a year to get it.
 
This is what the Foo posted when he initially got the watch - he had multiple posts with pics and captions such as "Good morning, gorgeous", and then this explanation as to how he acquired the watch:


"My wife called every single Patek AD across the US and Europe earlier this year looking for this watch (which was discontinued in 2017). Weir & Sons in Dublin was the only dealer that still had one. However, it had shop wear and needed to be sent back to Patek for “return to stock” service.

Normally when an individual consumer sends a watch back to Patek, they offer only a service polish. While very expert, this necessarily changes the case profile. On the other hand, a dealer can opt for Patek to do whatever is necessary to bring the watch back to factory new condition. This could mean anything from a targeted hand polish to laser welding and re-cutting to a full case replacement. They’ll never tell you what they had to do—but theoretically not even Patek itself should be able to tell that any work was done. Any new Patek at an AD may or may not have undergone this process.

Anyway, it took months to complete the return to stock work. Then there was an issue wiring our payment and we didn’t want to risk trying again. Since Weir doesn’t take credit card payments over the phone, my wife flew to Dublin last week just to pick-up the watch! She flew in on a red eye, went into the city for four hours, then went back to the airport. True love :)

And here we are."


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I actually feel sorry for him, in a way, although that my be entirely misplaced.

Maybe he's a happy person, but he never seems satisfied. He always needs to have "the best" (in whatever way he decides it's the best exemplar of something) and so he always seems to be searching, searching and then, once he gets it, it almost never lives up to the standard he set for it (gloves, bespoke shoes, trousers and so on).
 
This is what the Foo posted when he initially got the watch - he had multiple posts with pics and captions such as "Good morning, gorgeous", and then this explanation as to how he acquired the watch:

Living proof that money is wasted on the nouvea riche or old money gone slumming it.
 

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