A Futile and Stupid Gesture: The History of the First Trump Presidency & Q-Anon



Yeesh.

I will say as much as I'm not a fan of Mossad, they are by far the most intimidating people I've been drinking with.
 


I think everyone at some point is going to basically say he is actively trying not to have to be President anymore.
 
"Congressman" Eric Swalwell:

"Why were Russians in the White House?"

He said it. Really. This idiot was elected.
 
So the "highly classified material" was obtained under the Obama administration, which for some reason did not want to share it with their partners.
Did someone deliberately chose a guy with an Eastern European name to make it look more "authentic", like Russian sources confirming the "story"!?
Trump needs to find those "officials". BTW, isn't the stuff that Trump and guest political leaders talk about in the oval office sensitive information?
On the German GMX website they are already talking about "treason"!
 
I was watching the UK's Sky News this morning, much the same: infamous meetings with Russians, undue unfluence, tainted presidency, Russkies everywhere, interference with ongoing investigations, real evidence of Trump's corruption. All delivered in a menacing daily hate invective.

If you channel flick and cut into the fake reality news channels mid-sentence, you can pick-up on the propaganda and the emotive language and pitch designed to make you feel hate towards a given subject and person. It really is sinister and twisted. Hopefully Trump remains the man to take down the legacy media.
 
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Lord Buckley said:
I was watching the UK's Sky News this morning, much the same: infamous meetings with Russians, undue unfluence, tainted presidency, Russkies everywhere, interference with ongoing investigations, real evidence of Trump's corruption. All delivered in a menacing daily hate invective.

If you channel flick and cut into the fake reality news channels mid-sentence, you can pick-up on the propaganda and the emotive language and pitch designed to make you feel hate towards a given subject and person. It really is sinister and twisted. Hopefully Trump remains the man to take down the legacy media.
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:areyouserious::areyouserious::ahahahaha::ahahahaha:
 
Lord Buckley said:
I was watching the UK's Sky News this morning, much the same: infamous meetings with Russians, undue unfluence, tainted presidency, Russkies everywhere, interference with ongoing investigations, real evidence of Trump's corruption. All delivered in a menacing daily hate invective.

If you channel flick and cut into the fake reality news channels mid-sentence, you can pick-up on the propaganda and the emotive language and pitch designed to make you feel hate towards a given subject and person. It really is sinister and twisted. Hopefully Trump remains the man to take down the legacy media.
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I actually read the lunatics this morning calling it obstruction of justice. Ha ha, wow.

Even if the story is true, so what, he asked Comey to go easy on a friend of his. Isn't that something everyone does daily when a cop pulls you over? "Come on officer, can't you cut me a break here?". Are people being pulled from their cars and tossed in jail for saying this to a cop? But with Trump Derangement Syndrome it's obstruction of justice.

Oh, and he asked this question the day after firing Flynn apparently. So months have gone by and this "criminal act" remained secret. What a joke.
 
OfficePants said:
Even if the story is true, so what, he asked Comey to go easy on a friend of his. Isn't that something everyone does daily when a cop pulls you over? "Come on officer, can't you cut me a break here?".
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I'm cracking up here - its POTUS and Head of FBI
 
fxh said:
I'm cracking up here - its POTUS and Head of FBI
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It is. Can you explain what the fuss is actually about? I don't get it.

Several months ago you had the attorney general meet Bill Clinton on a plane at the height of his wife's investigation, I don't recall all this crazed fuss over that event. Every day is this lunatic Russia story, but not a shred of evidence has appeared.
 
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OfficePants said:
Even if the story is true, so what, he asked Comey to go easy on a friend of his. Isn't that something everyone does daily when a cop pulls you over? "Come on officer, can't you cut me a break here?". Are people being pulled from their cars and tossed in jail for saying this to a cop? But with Trump Derangement Syndrome it's obstruction of justice.
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As someone said, different rules apply when you are POTUS and someone close to you is being investigated. It was similarly inappropriate for Bill Clinton to meet with the AG (though Clinton was not the AG's boss, as Trump was to Comey).

That being said, I doubt there was any intent on Trump's part. Trump clearly likes Flynn and, not being aware that doing so is grossly inappropriate given his new position, was trying to look after his friend, not obstruct justice. Trump is guilty of allowing loyalty to interfere with propriety, but I don't think much else.

Of course, if anything ever comes to light suggesting real collusion, maybe it would be different. But as of now, I don't think there was any intent (unlike Watergate or Blowjobbonanzagate)
 
InstaHate said:
As someone said, different rules apply when you are POTUS and someone close to you is being investigated. It was similarly inappropriate for Bill Clinton to meet with the AG (though Clinton was not the AG's boss, as Trump was to Comey).

That being said, I doubt there was any intent on Trump's part. Trump clearly likes Flynn and, not being aware that doing so is grossly inappropriate given his new position, was trying to look after his friend, not obstruct justice. Trump is guilty of allowing loyalty to interfere with propriety, but I don't think much else.

Of course, if anything ever comes to light suggesting real collusion, maybe it would be different. But as of now, I don't think there was any intent (unlike Watergate or Blowjobbonanzagate)
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That's a reasonable assessment. He was just trying to look after a friend, and yeah, it wasn't the smartest thing to say but so what, he didn't do anything illegal.

Different rules may apply between the Pres and FBI director, but different rules are also at play with Trump and those seeking to destroy him. The AG should never, ever have boarded that plane with Clinton, it was a much worse act than this petty thing and there was no firestorm like you see here.

And by the way, the white house denies it happened.
 
OfficePants said:
I actually read the lunatics this morning calling it obstruction of justice. Ha ha, wow.

Even if the story is true, so what, he asked Comey to go easy on a friend of his. Isn't that something everyone does daily when a cop pulls you over? "Come on officer, can't you cut me a break here?". Are people being pulled from their cars and tossed in jail for saying this to a cop? But with Trump Derangement Syndrome it's obstruction of justice.

Oh, and he asked this question the day after firing Flynn apparently. So months have gone by and this "criminal act" remained secret. What a joke.
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It is - as per usual - incredibly stupid behaviour by Trump. But there is no criminal elements to what he has done. Nor is it an impeachable act. Nor is the information sharing with the Russians necessarily a betrayal of super secret info.

By all means do the due diligence to investigate the allegations and find out the facts, of which there are currently precious few of those.
 
Thruth said:
It is - as per usual - incredibly stupid behaviour by Trump. But there is no criminal elements to what he has done. Nor is it an impeachable act. Nor is the information sharing with the Russians necessarily a betrayal of super secret info.

By all means do the due diligence to investigate the allegations and find out the facts, of which there are currently precious few of those.
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And this is a man who's in charge of nuclear weapons...
 
Thruth said:
It is - as per usual - incredibly stupid behaviour by Trump. But there is no criminal elements to what he has done. Nor is it an impeachable act. Nor is the information sharing with the Russians necessarily a betrayal of super secret info.

By all means do the due diligence to investigate the allegations and find out the facts, of which there are currently precious few of those.
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But again, there is nothing to waste time with. It was handled dumb. All the while, the country's business is not getting done while we waste time with this bullshit.

It's time to shut this crap down and start getting shit passed. I pay too many taxes to worry about the democrat obsession with putin.
 
OfficePants said:
But again, there is nothing to waste time with. It was handled dumb. All the while, the country's business is not getting done while we waste time with this bullshit.

It's time to shut this crap down and start getting shit passed. I pay too many taxes to worry about the democrat obsession with putin.
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No you don't.
 
What percentage of our income tax goes to welfare type stuff? 10-15% (though I'm sure a substantial amount of that doesn't ever reach the poor due to our very, very efficient bureaucracy, amirite)?
 
OfficePants said:
I read hit job after hit job
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Cry me a river. Of course he's being treated unfairly by the media. He has accomplished some things which nobody ever talked about, fair enough. BUT our dear orange leader (and his Trumpettes all around the world) is delusional expecting fair treatment. He entered into a pissing contest with the MSM that he is OBVIOUSLY bound to loose. OF COURSE everyone and is mother is out to get him no matter what. Both pissing of the media and then complaining about it just provides another example of his lack, even absence, of sound judgement. And since I'm generally rooting for him and even feel a little bad for him at times (mostly for his general boorishness, that's killing him over and over again), I won't talk about his hopelessly insufficient leadership, integrity, knowledge or pretty much any other trait you'd not only want to but have to find in a good president. So you both should quit whining and get shit done. yalla yalla chop chop
 
güero said:
Cry me a river. Of course he's being treated unfairly by the media. He has accomplished some things which nobody ever talked about, fair enough. BUT our dear orange leader (and his Trumpettes all around the world) is delusional expecting fair treatment. He entered into a pissing contest with the MSM that he is OBVIOUSLY bound to loose. OF COURSE everyone and is mother is out to get him no matter what. Both pissing of the media and then complaining about it just provides another example of his lack, even absence, of sound judgement. And since I'm generally rooting for him and even feel a little bad for him at times (mostly for his general boorishness, that's killing him over and over again), I won't talk about his hopelessly insufficient leadership, integrity, knowledge or pretty much any other trait you'd not only want to but have to find in a good president. So you both should quit whining and get shit done. yalla yalla chop chop
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Journalism is supposed to be an unbiased profession, with ethics at the forefront, and personal feelings put to the side.

But in your world, "of course he's being treated unfairly".

These two things don't square up.

Citizens need to be informed in a factual, unbiased manner. Journalists are fueling a crazed witch hunt, this is really bad for the nation, and is creating an environment that is so polluted, the result can very well be a civil war.

This goes beyond hating on Trump into some deeply disgusting cultural problems with Americans.
 
OfficePants said:
Journalism is supposed to be an unbiased profession, with ethics at the forefront, and personal feelings put to the side.
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It is supposed to be, but hello real world: it's not. How can someone possibly not be aware of this? It is just puzzling.
 
OfficePants said:
Journalism is supposed to be an unbiased profession, with ethics at the forefront, and personal feelings put to the side.

But in your world, "of course he's being treated unfairly".

These two things don't square up.

Citizens need to be informed in a factual, unbiased manner. Journalists are fueling a crazed witch hunt, this is really bad for the nation, and is creating an environment that is so polluted, the result can very well be a civil war.

This goes beyond hating on Trump into some deeply disgusting cultural problems with Americans.
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Says the guy reading Breitbart...
 
güero said:
It is supposed to be, but hello real world: it's not. How can someone possibly not be aware of this? It is just puzzling.
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Where did I suggest it was? How you can draw such an inference is even more puzzling, especially since I said "supposed to be".


Monkeyface said:
Says the guy reading Breitbart...
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I read quite a lot of sources, but don't let that get in the way of drawing false conclusions.
 
OfficePants said:
Where did I suggest it was? How you can draw such an inference is even more puzzling, especially since I said "supposed to be".




I read quite a lot of sources, but don't let that get in the way of drawing false conclusions.
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Anonymous sources?
 
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