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Best book ever about conspiracy and the Rockefellers, how they degenerated music into crap
https://www.amazon.com/Tavistock-Institute-Social-Engineering-Masses/dp/163424043X
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I'm a big fan of his son.
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He did make a mistake one day when he overdid the amount of skirting on his giacca. Eyeties, despite their love of Engrish cut, could not tolerate it. Plus they do not like stewardess hats.
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Which one of the hundres he left all over Italy?
I got a book signed by one of his womans, treasure from an antiquary.
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Foreword by Frankie Knuckles?
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Roberto Bolaño's stuff is hard to describe. Its in the general area of South American magic realism. I enjoy him but its not everyone's cup of earl grey.
Fake silk : the lethal history of viscose rayon / Paul David Blanc - I haven't checked but Fake Silk is like one of those PhDs turned into a book- rarely successful. It seems over ponderous to me and I skip huge bits. I think a book better written and edited to a third the size would have been more useful. Basically its about how the growing/manufacturing etc of Viscose is dangerous to workers and environment.
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Sarto you are still silly.
Are you taking up arms against those godless Catalans?
Are you taking up arms against those godless Catalans?
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Currently reading: Uncommon People - The Rise and Fall of the Rock Star by David Hepworth.
The author's contention is that the age of the rock star is dead. Each chapter focuses on an individual year and artist running from 1955-1995.
Very enjoyable read.
The author's contention is that the age of the rock star is dead. Each chapter focuses on an individual year and artist running from 1955-1995.
Very enjoyable read.
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Currently re-reading Moby Dick. The great American novel.
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That's on my to get list. I've read a few reviews and I am not convinced that Kurt Cobain was the last rock star. I think he was over rated shite.
To me it seems a number of factors have conspired against rock idols and gods: rock music is pretty much explored and so the shock of the new is gone; rock music is no longer the cultural expression of the time; rock stars have now aged and the stars are old or dead and it doesn't age well; the music has been demystified because we can access it any time along with past interviews etc. It is no longer pointman for the zeitgeist of our times.
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On the last chapter of Douglas Murray's The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity Islam.
It's a depressing read and I can only take it in small doses as it will make you angry and want to weep at the betrayal of future generations as the failed multicultural model of Europe is exposed and dissected. He's pessimistic about the future in Western Europe, as I think most of us have a sense of approaching dystopia, already a reality in the suburbs of Paris and the new towns and former market towns of England.
On a more optimistic note: started reading Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Worth reading the foreward too for a background into one of the most brilliant minds on the front lines of the culture war. It's amazing how far from the path of righteousness the liberal consensus has strayed when such blatant talent is denigrated and slurred at every opportunity.
It's a depressing read and I can only take it in small doses as it will make you angry and want to weep at the betrayal of future generations as the failed multicultural model of Europe is exposed and dissected. He's pessimistic about the future in Western Europe, as I think most of us have a sense of approaching dystopia, already a reality in the suburbs of Paris and the new towns and former market towns of England.
On a more optimistic note: started reading Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. Worth reading the foreward too for a background into one of the most brilliant minds on the front lines of the culture war. It's amazing how far from the path of righteousness the liberal consensus has strayed when such blatant talent is denigrated and slurred at every opportunity.
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Here are some of the books I've read this year.
The Power of One, by Bryce Courtenay
I read this years ago and thought that my son would enjoy it, so I took it along on holidays and we both read it. A rollicking read, with plenty of amusement and pathos. A bit predictable and emotionally manipulative in parts, but thoroughly enjoyable. Courtenay did an excellent job of creating characters.
To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
I re-read this so I could discuss it with my son, as it's on his school reading this list this year. He read it while we were on holidays, too, and really enjoyed it. It was interesting to re-read it after about 30 years, particularly from the perspective of someone who is now Atticus' age, rather than Scout's age.
Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
Another re-read so I can discuss it with my son. As depressing as I remembered from high school! My son also enjoyed it and felt very emotional and indignant about the behaviour of some of the children.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, by John le Carre.
I read both this and le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl" in high school and did not particularly enjoy either of them at the time. However, re-reading it was a revelation. Absolutely fantastic and compulsively readable. I finished it off in a day-and-a-half and would have finished sooner if we hadn't been tramping all over Tokyo. I need to find more of the Smiley series. After reading the book I watched the movie on Netflix and really enjoyed it, too.
The Secret Commonwealth, by Philip Pullman
This is the second book in Pullman's "Book of Dust" series, following "La Belle Sauvage". I really enjoyed both the "His Dark Materials" trilogy and then the first book in the "Book of Dust" series. As a result, I was eagerly anticipating this, but also felt some trepidation that it may not live up to my expectations. Thankfully, I need not have worried. Yes, Lyra is a different character - she is grown up and faces different challenges. However, the book was very enjoyable and engaging and Pullman remains a great and very creative storyteller.
Magpie Murders, by Anthony Horowitz
A book within a book and a murder mystery within a murder mystery. The book starts out as a manuscript, written as an enjoyable imitation of a very mannered murder mystery in the style of Agatha Christie, set in the English countryside in the 1950s. It then changes as the editor of the aforementioned manuscript finds herself investigating a potential murder mystery, and considering the possibility that fiction and real life (within the story, that is) are intertwined. An entertaining read.
Killing Commendatore, by Haruki Murakami
This was, I'm very sad to say, a disappointment. I loved certain things about it - some of the characterisation, the detail, the ability to describe a scene in a particular way. The first half was intriguing and and enjoyable, but the story flagged in the second half and Murakami essentially seemed to be recycling a number of tropes from his previous works - holes in the ground/wells, mysterious visitors, a strange quest down a hole to an unknown world. The main character essentially ends up back where he begins, which leads one to ask whether there was really any point to what happened. I feel that there was a good book inside this one, struggling to pull itself free but regrettably being weighed down under the weight of unnecessary detail and the recycling of previous plot lines. I galloped through the first half but then took the better part of a week to finish the second half and read another couple of books in-between, before finally finishing off Commendatore. I'd recommend quite a few other of Murakami's books before this one.
The Power of One, by Bryce Courtenay
I read this years ago and thought that my son would enjoy it, so I took it along on holidays and we both read it. A rollicking read, with plenty of amusement and pathos. A bit predictable and emotionally manipulative in parts, but thoroughly enjoyable. Courtenay did an excellent job of creating characters.
To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee
I re-read this so I could discuss it with my son, as it's on his school reading this list this year. He read it while we were on holidays, too, and really enjoyed it. It was interesting to re-read it after about 30 years, particularly from the perspective of someone who is now Atticus' age, rather than Scout's age.
Lord of the Flies, by William Golding
Another re-read so I can discuss it with my son. As depressing as I remembered from high school! My son also enjoyed it and felt very emotional and indignant about the behaviour of some of the children.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, by John le Carre.
I read both this and le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl" in high school and did not particularly enjoy either of them at the time. However, re-reading it was a revelation. Absolutely fantastic and compulsively readable. I finished it off in a day-and-a-half and would have finished sooner if we hadn't been tramping all over Tokyo. I need to find more of the Smiley series. After reading the book I watched the movie on Netflix and really enjoyed it, too.
The Secret Commonwealth, by Philip Pullman
This is the second book in Pullman's "Book of Dust" series, following "La Belle Sauvage". I really enjoyed both the "His Dark Materials" trilogy and then the first book in the "Book of Dust" series. As a result, I was eagerly anticipating this, but also felt some trepidation that it may not live up to my expectations. Thankfully, I need not have worried. Yes, Lyra is a different character - she is grown up and faces different challenges. However, the book was very enjoyable and engaging and Pullman remains a great and very creative storyteller.
Magpie Murders, by Anthony Horowitz
A book within a book and a murder mystery within a murder mystery. The book starts out as a manuscript, written as an enjoyable imitation of a very mannered murder mystery in the style of Agatha Christie, set in the English countryside in the 1950s. It then changes as the editor of the aforementioned manuscript finds herself investigating a potential murder mystery, and considering the possibility that fiction and real life (within the story, that is) are intertwined. An entertaining read.
Killing Commendatore, by Haruki Murakami
This was, I'm very sad to say, a disappointment. I loved certain things about it - some of the characterisation, the detail, the ability to describe a scene in a particular way. The first half was intriguing and and enjoyable, but the story flagged in the second half and Murakami essentially seemed to be recycling a number of tropes from his previous works - holes in the ground/wells, mysterious visitors, a strange quest down a hole to an unknown world. The main character essentially ends up back where he begins, which leads one to ask whether there was really any point to what happened. I feel that there was a good book inside this one, struggling to pull itself free but regrettably being weighed down under the weight of unnecessary detail and the recycling of previous plot lines. I galloped through the first half but then took the better part of a week to finish the second half and read another couple of books in-between, before finally finishing off Commendatore. I'd recommend quite a few other of Murakami's books before this one.
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Do explore more le Carre. I’m pretty sure I have read them all now, though wish I had gone in sequence. I don’t think he has written a bad novel, though some are definitely better than others. The Smiley series is masterful character development And his 1990s work is a damning critique of neoliberalism and the American empire.
On my bed stand waiting to be read: Jasper Jones by Craig Silvey and The Kelley Gang by Peter Carey. I also have a copy of Tim Winton’s Coudstreet that I take with me every summer but always sits at the bottom of the stack, unread.
Do explore more le Carre. I’m pretty sure I have read them all now, though wish I had gone in sequence. I don’t think he has written a bad novel, though some are definitely better than others. The Smiley series is masterful character development And his 1990s work is a damning critique of neoliberalism and the American empire.
On my bed stand waiting to be read: Jasper Jones by Craig Silvey and The Kelley Gang by Peter Carey. I also have a copy of Tim Winton’s Coudstreet that I take with me every summer but always sits at the bottom of the stack, unread.
The Last Good Kiss by James Crumley.
I challenge you to read this novel and not be entertained. It's like chatting with an old, forgotten friend with conversations that'll make you feel fiendish exuberance one minute and wistful nostalgia the next. Like any good detective crime novel, The Last Good Kiss couldn't give a monkey's ass about detection or logical reasoning. Written in the late 70s, you instead feel the pangs for a bygone era, before the hippies and Vietnam. Set in Western USA, you feel wide open spaces of small country towns and the vibrant rustling of big pine trees and running creeks. Lots of drinking debauchery from the characters and general chicanery you might expect from a hardboiled novel too.
I challenge you to read this novel and not be entertained. It's like chatting with an old, forgotten friend with conversations that'll make you feel fiendish exuberance one minute and wistful nostalgia the next. Like any good detective crime novel, The Last Good Kiss couldn't give a monkey's ass about detection or logical reasoning. Written in the late 70s, you instead feel the pangs for a bygone era, before the hippies and Vietnam. Set in Western USA, you feel wide open spaces of small country towns and the vibrant rustling of big pine trees and running creeks. Lots of drinking debauchery from the characters and general chicanery you might expect from a hardboiled novel too.
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A few books on the go:
Careless Love, The Unmaking of Elvis Presley
Jeremy Paxman's The English
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning
Brighton Rock
And still dabbling in Kenneth Williams Diaries, the Tony Blair biography Broken Promises and Churchill's History of WWII which I am reading in spurts and then leave for several months if not years.
Careless Love, The Unmaking of Elvis Presley
Jeremy Paxman's The English
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning
Brighton Rock
And still dabbling in Kenneth Williams Diaries, the Tony Blair biography Broken Promises and Churchill's History of WWII which I am reading in spurts and then leave for several months if not years.
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I am interested in reading First Blood by David Morrell, has anyone here read that, if so, care to share your thoughts?
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excellent book! I read it in high school.
I read a few of his others as well. Definitely not high brow, but real page turners.
He was some sort of right wing college activist in the sixties, I saw his name pop up in a history textbook in uni.
excellent book! I read it in high school.
I read a few of his others as well. Definitely not high brow, but real page turners.
He was some sort of right wing college activist in the sixties, I saw his name pop up in a history textbook in uni.
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Currently reading Starship Troopers and Asimov's Foundation interchangeably.
I am most interested in Sci-Fi, but want to break away from the classics (once I read enough of them) and have no idea where to start.
Anyway, next up - not sure what order:
1) Brave New World
2) Dune
3) First Blood
4) Generals Die in Bed
I am most interested in Sci-Fi, but want to break away from the classics (once I read enough of them) and have no idea where to start.
Anyway, next up - not sure what order:
1) Brave New World
2) Dune
3) First Blood
4) Generals Die in Bed
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you have it in the right order
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Finally got around to reading H.P. Lovecraft. Starting with his first stories and they don't disappoint.
Haven't really bothered with horror and ghost stories since the late 1980's other than rereading the odd Poe, M.R. James and watching old Hammer, Amicus and Corman films. A lot of those films you'll find for free on Youtube.
Haven't really bothered with horror and ghost stories since the late 1980's other than rereading the odd Poe, M.R. James and watching old Hammer, Amicus and Corman films. A lot of those films you'll find for free on Youtube.
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A few books that I read recently:
Momo, by Michael Ende
I picked this one up while we were in Japan early this year as I needed something else to read while on holidays. I'd read Ende's The Neverending Story as a child and enjoyed it (plus seen the movie, of course) but had never read anything else by him.
Momo is a great book for children but, I think, also a great book for adults. The story concerns a society where all of the adults turn into "timesavers", people obsessed with doing things more quickly so that they can save time so that they can do other things more quickly. Of course, that means that they never have any time to relax, look around and simply enjoy life. Meanwhile, their children become more and more miserable and the colour is drained away from life. The story is entertaining and well-told, with humour and pathos.
Boy Swallows Universe, by Trent Dalton
I started this with very high hopes, as it had great reviews. It was a good book, and I generally enjoyed it, but it didn't grasp me as much as I hoped it would. There were bits that jarred - I thought that the "magical realism" parts didn't fit with the rest of the book, and that some parts were a bit long and could have been trimmed by some judicious editing. However, the characters were entertaining, it was interesting, and as someone who grew up in Brisbane around that time it resonated with me. I still recommend it but I was hoping for a bit more.
Fascists Among Us - Online hate and the Christchurch massacre, by Jeff Sparrow
I picked this up at the airport back in March (the last flight I suspect I'll be taking for a while!) and read about half of it on the plane. It's not a long book and, as such, does more of a surface skim than a deep, theoretical dive into issues about modern-day Fascism/neo-Fascism, the alt-right, 4-chan and 8-chan, meme culture, shitposting and other such things. I thought it was really well written and interesting and have passed it on to my son to read, as he's currently studying the inter-war era for high school history, so this will provide him with an interesting historical comparison.
As an aside, I've had some dealings with white supremacists (primarily members of outlaw motorcycle gangs) and although there's no doubt that some of them are morons, that is certainly not always the case. They can be very erudite and well-spoken and able to talk very convincingly about their philosophies and reasons but then when it suits, suddenly change into a far more casual and offensive mode of speech, so as to suit their audience.
Piranesi, by Susanna Clarke
I wasn't even aware that one of my favourite authors had recently published a new book, until I saw it in a bookstore window a little while ago. I immediately purchased it, took it home, and read it one sitting. I would have loved to have taken longer, but I couldn't stop reading!
This book draws on some of the themes of Clark's previous work, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, in that it speaks of "magic" lurking under the surface of our normal lives, of other worlds of which we are not aware but that are just on the other side of the fabric of our everyday world. However, it is also a very different book, and it is much shorter (which some may appreciate).
I don't want to give away the plot so all I will say is that I thought it was wonderful and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
A Deadly Education, by Naomi Novik
I absolutely loved Novik's previous two books, Uprooted and Spinning Silver. They were beautifully-told reinterpretations of Eastern European folktales with a feminist flare and some interesting quirks that were really well done.
A Deadly Education is very different from those two novels. Instead, it's a refreshing reimagining of the old "magical kids in school for sorcerers" trope. The main character, El, is an acerbic, rather unpleasant loner. She's trying to navigate a school without teachers, where both monsters and other students pose ever-present threats, and everyone is evaluating everyone else as a potential ally or foe. Students routinely disappear or are so stressed they crack and take out other students. It's the first in a series, ends on a great cliff-hanger, and I'm really looking forward to the next book.
Momo, by Michael Ende
I picked this one up while we were in Japan early this year as I needed something else to read while on holidays. I'd read Ende's The Neverending Story as a child and enjoyed it (plus seen the movie, of course) but had never read anything else by him.
Momo is a great book for children but, I think, also a great book for adults. The story concerns a society where all of the adults turn into "timesavers", people obsessed with doing things more quickly so that they can save time so that they can do other things more quickly. Of course, that means that they never have any time to relax, look around and simply enjoy life. Meanwhile, their children become more and more miserable and the colour is drained away from life. The story is entertaining and well-told, with humour and pathos.
Boy Swallows Universe, by Trent Dalton
I started this with very high hopes, as it had great reviews. It was a good book, and I generally enjoyed it, but it didn't grasp me as much as I hoped it would. There were bits that jarred - I thought that the "magical realism" parts didn't fit with the rest of the book, and that some parts were a bit long and could have been trimmed by some judicious editing. However, the characters were entertaining, it was interesting, and as someone who grew up in Brisbane around that time it resonated with me. I still recommend it but I was hoping for a bit more.
Fascists Among Us - Online hate and the Christchurch massacre, by Jeff Sparrow
I picked this up at the airport back in March (the last flight I suspect I'll be taking for a while!) and read about half of it on the plane. It's not a long book and, as such, does more of a surface skim than a deep, theoretical dive into issues about modern-day Fascism/neo-Fascism, the alt-right, 4-chan and 8-chan, meme culture, shitposting and other such things. I thought it was really well written and interesting and have passed it on to my son to read, as he's currently studying the inter-war era for high school history, so this will provide him with an interesting historical comparison.
As an aside, I've had some dealings with white supremacists (primarily members of outlaw motorcycle gangs) and although there's no doubt that some of them are morons, that is certainly not always the case. They can be very erudite and well-spoken and able to talk very convincingly about their philosophies and reasons but then when it suits, suddenly change into a far more casual and offensive mode of speech, so as to suit their audience.
Piranesi, by Susanna Clarke
I wasn't even aware that one of my favourite authors had recently published a new book, until I saw it in a bookstore window a little while ago. I immediately purchased it, took it home, and read it one sitting. I would have loved to have taken longer, but I couldn't stop reading!
This book draws on some of the themes of Clark's previous work, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, in that it speaks of "magic" lurking under the surface of our normal lives, of other worlds of which we are not aware but that are just on the other side of the fabric of our everyday world. However, it is also a very different book, and it is much shorter (which some may appreciate).
I don't want to give away the plot so all I will say is that I thought it was wonderful and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
A Deadly Education, by Naomi Novik
I absolutely loved Novik's previous two books, Uprooted and Spinning Silver. They were beautifully-told reinterpretations of Eastern European folktales with a feminist flare and some interesting quirks that were really well done.
A Deadly Education is very different from those two novels. Instead, it's a refreshing reimagining of the old "magical kids in school for sorcerers" trope. The main character, El, is an acerbic, rather unpleasant loner. She's trying to navigate a school without teachers, where both monsters and other students pose ever-present threats, and everyone is evaluating everyone else as a potential ally or foe. Students routinely disappear or are so stressed they crack and take out other students. It's the first in a series, ends on a great cliff-hanger, and I'm really looking forward to the next book.
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Looking at getting a copy of Storm of Steel by Junger.
Currently reading: On Liberty and Ordinary Men
Currently reading: On Liberty and Ordinary Men
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Dante Alighieri’s Divine Comedy. One of the most profoundly beautiful and complex works ever written.
It moves on so many levels and has so many possible ways to interpret it that I always find something new in it. The book also helped me get over some rather nasty personal problems when I was younger.
It moves on so many levels and has so many possible ways to interpret it that I always find something new in it. The book also helped me get over some rather nasty personal problems when I was younger.
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I've read the Inferno a number of times over the years. Deep and complex and well worth the effort.
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I’ve started taking my kindle with me on days like today when I’m out in the field and there’s a lot of hurry up and wait.
I’ve always rated Camus as being on of my three favorite authors, but in truth I’d never read his plays (just the essays, journalism and novels). So I’m slogging through Caligula now and it is hard going. Almost fed the need to revisit The Rebel or The Plague just so I can make it through this one.
I’ve always rated Camus as being on of my three favorite authors, but in truth I’d never read his plays (just the essays, journalism and novels). So I’m slogging through Caligula now and it is hard going. Almost fed the need to revisit The Rebel or The Plague just so I can make it through this one.
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You should read Isaiah Berlin's Two Concepts of Liberty and his Four Essays on Liberty. They are usually bundled together or are probably available in an Anthology.
You should find it interesting.
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Jesus man just be a little more blatant about it Why don’t you?
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OK, I think that Dropbear is an authoritarian.
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Lol. I’m more Bakunin and Kropotkon, though I’ve drifted closer to a left-libertarian center in old age. Which makes me a damn liberal to Rambo, of course.
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Anarchist? I'm not quite sure you understand what an anarchist believes.
No, you're an authoritarian and should read those essays I mentioned, especially his critique of positive liberty.
You may actually find them online.
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Yes you’ve literally said it several times now. If you’d like to donate we can give him a special banner title.
Otherwise let’s move past this and keep the thread to books without making it personal please.
boooo you libtard cuck
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The best second hand book shop in the Netherlands, for very discerning English language books is this one in the old canal district of Dordrecht:
antiquariaat-leesbeest.nl
That area and book shop is well worth a visit if you venture out south of Rotterdam.
When things started to open up earlier this year, we spent half-a-day in Dordrecht and I got a good collection of Graham Greene's novels and the first edition, USA version, of Alan Sillitoe's Saturday Night and Sunday Morning. Working my way through Greene's stuff. The version of Our Man In Havana is the Penguin 1987 edition and I remember at the time the local library had it and I remember looking at it and thinking that's my kind of title, but I couldn't get into the prose at the time. At the same time I tried to get into Ian Fleming with the same rejection.
Also reading One Two Three Four, The Beatles in Time by Craig Brown. Very short chapters, a book you can read on the loo. Little anecdotes, but nothing new so far.
Antiquariaat 't Leesbeest - Tweedehands boeken in Dordrecht
Tweedehands boeken in Dordrecht vindt u in groten getale bij Antiquariaat 't Leesbeest. Literatuur, kunstboeken, fotoboeken en meer!
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That area and book shop is well worth a visit if you venture out south of Rotterdam.
When things started to open up earlier this year, we spent half-a-day in Dordrecht and I got a good collection of Graham Greene's novels and the first edition, USA version, of Alan Sillitoe's Saturday Night and Sunday Morning. Working my way through Greene's stuff. The version of Our Man In Havana is the Penguin 1987 edition and I remember at the time the local library had it and I remember looking at it and thinking that's my kind of title, but I couldn't get into the prose at the time. At the same time I tried to get into Ian Fleming with the same rejection.
Also reading One Two Three Four, The Beatles in Time by Craig Brown. Very short chapters, a book you can read on the loo. Little anecdotes, but nothing new so far.
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Second lady friend in my life who mentioned about this author Eckhart Tolle. One of them bought a book of his for me once which upon initial skimming seemed like a mixture of Dale Carnegie and L Ron Hubbard rubbish. Why do people keep getting suckered into this?