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Why's the crease on the left leg look like its going off to the right where as the left looks like its going straight down? Did he take it all in on the right side?
 
Major improvement Betel! If you give them a good pressing they'll look perfect imho.
 
Yeah, press them and get back to us Betel. I'm still struggling with that leg crease.
 
betel - its an interesting issue. You need to wear them around a bit, and do some sitting down etc to get them to conform to your shape. Even if you wear them around at home. They may need some"tailors pressing/ironing/shrinking/stretching" to get the bum to look best.

If I may get intimate for a while - would you say your cute bottom is a roundish sticky out one or, a flat almost non existent one? Or in between.

Also can you give what are the front and back rise measurements? (also are you free next Saturday night? We could get together and do the measurements!)

It will all help understand this problem which is an interesting 3 dimensional problem that it seems Luxire has to solve.
 
Betel has a flatter-ish ass. Owing to his Mexican bloodlines and his love of working out.
 
betel - its an interesting issue. You need to wear them around a bit, and do some sitting down etc to get them to conform to your shape. Even if you wear them around at home. They may need some"tailors pressing/ironing/shrinking/stretching" to get the bum to look best.

If I may get intimate for a while - would you say your cute bottom is a roundish sticky out one or, a flat almost non existent one? Or in between.

Also can you give what are the front and back rise measurements? (also are you free next Saturday night? We could get together and do the measurements!)

It will all help understand this problem which is an interesting 3 dimensional problem that it seems Luxire has to solve.

I would say something in the middle, not as flat as Ramboaezy says. :LOLguy:

Will take the measurements of the rise, this are not made by Luxire, this are RTW. I'm working out the adjustments with the tailor who makes them. I bet that the 32 would fit me better but I'm still a bit fat since my last bulk.

Let me see if I can explain something. From where my hands are if I grab like 0.5" from there, it cleans a lot more and really shapes my back a lot, don't know if I explained myself but I will discuss it with the tailor.
 
I would say something in the middle, not as flat as Ramboaezy says. :LOLguy:

Will take the measurements of the rise, this are not made by Luxire, this are RTW. I'm working out the adjustments with the tailor who makes them. I bet that the 32 would fit me better but I'm still a bit fat since my last bulk.

Let me see if I can explain something. From where my hands are if I grab like 0.5" from there, it cleans a lot more and really shapes my back a lot, don't know if I explained myself but I will discuss it with the tailor.
ooh aaah - from where my hands are you could grab a good thick 9" - big boy
 
For some reason I thought betels trousers were from Luxire - maybe because was the same baggy arse problem.
 
Is this like in double sense or that? Cause I didn't understood. :(

Measured the rise, back rise 17", front 12".

He meant like a 9" pinga. Because you said you grabbed .5", like grabbing a tiny pinga. It was a play on words that got lost in translation.
 
He meant like a 9" pinga. Because you said you grabbed .5", like grabbing a tiny pinga. It was a play on words that got lost in translation.

I figured it out a bit but wasn't sure.
 
Received another pair of trouser from the same tailor. I think I need to make them shorter so there are no creases and the seat needs a cleaner look.

What do you think?

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At least this pair has straight lines in the backs of the legs. That was driving me nuts before.

Cuffs look a bit large, so maybe a snip there. That might help with the length issue, but that's not terrible. Do me a favor if you can - take a pic with the pants pulled all the way up your ass. So the bottom of the seat literally hits the bottom of your ass cheek. I want to see if there's something in that rear seat measurement you keep having trouble with.
 
At least this pair has straight lines in the backs of the legs. That was driving me nuts before.

Cuffs look a bit large, so maybe a snip there. That might help with the length issue, but that's not terrible. Do me a favor if you can - take a pic with the pants pulled all the way up your ass. So the bottom of the seat literally hits the bottom of your ass cheek. I want to see if there's something in that rear seat measurement you keep having trouble with.

I was thinking the same thing about ass measurements/fit
 
The trousers are just 1 finger below my belly button. Should I pull it higher?
 
What I want you to do is pull them up as high as they will go. Literally, up until they're cutting your balls in half. Then take a pic of the back. Then, take a second pic but this time put your hands at the top of your ass in back. One hand on each side.
 
If I wear them like that it looks like the, Mexicans use to say, my ass eats the fabric. LOL!
 
If I wear them like that it looks like the, Mexicans use to say, my ass eats the fabric. LOL!
I don't want you to go outside like that. Just for photo talk g purposes. There is something going on with your ass and the rear rise that I cant make heads or tails of. All your pants seem to have the issue. The photos would help get a sense of the material proportions.
 
Not so long ago - there was an allowance in the front of trousers down one side for a gentleman's equipment. "Which side does sir dress"? Hoik them up so that your family jewels sit down one side and the seam hits your crotch. Then rambo can look at your bum and advise.

The rear crutch area is 3D. On a pattern any fit problems like you have will be adjusted along at least 4 edges /axis.
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So, I got those gray trousers back form the tailor and now I think they fit very nice. The problem is with the other pair, a light brown one. I asked him to make the pleat deeper but it is causing a lot of trouble. So I would like to ask if you guys know what is going on here.

- Can the pleat depth be reduce?
- Get rid of the pleat on this pair?
- Can it be cleaned up?

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So, I got those gray trousers back form the tailor and now I think they fit very nice. The problem is with the other pair, a light brown one. I asked him to make the pleat deeper but it is causing a lot of trouble. So I would like to ask if you guys know what is going on here.

- Can the pleat depth be reduce?
- Get rid of the pleat on this pair?
- Can it be cleaned up?

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By "make the pleat deeper" what do you mean? Because it almost looks like he literally folded the pleat over onto itself. As for taking a pleat out of a pair of pants, its possible, but it might fundamentally alter the way the pants look.
 
I'm guessing that you dislike the way the pleats kind of bow open?
I just looked at a pair of single pleat trousers of mine, and the pleat overlap at the waistband is maybe half an inch and, if I'm seeing this right, yours are almost twice that (the pleated fabric seems to be centered under the belt loop). I suspect this is to deal with large thighs, but then I have the same problem and my tailor did it as he did.

It is possible that excess fabric at the crotch is causing the rippling that is preventing the pleat from hanging straight and causing it to buckle out? I'm really not sure how that would be corrected.
 
No, what I dislike is the lines formed in the front part. It should be plain, isn't it?

What I mean about pleat depth is that - and I'm talking rough number don't know if those are the correct measurement - this light brown pants have a pleat that is 1". So the fabric folded is 1". The gray ones have a 0.5" pleat depth. Don't know if I explain myself.
 
Betel, having trousers with cleanish lines such as yours would be a dream for me. Even though you and others might not find them perfect, it would do for me. Unfortunately my "black like" bottom and stance do not do me any favours when buying for RTW trousers.
Hello fellow big ass club member
 
This are MTM. That's why my doubt about letting the pleat a bit out could be done.

This is the other pair. The back look a lot better than before. Will post a pic later.

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I can see where he folded in the pleat in the first pair and caused the pulling at the crotch.
 
It's kind of hard to describe. Think of if he folded inward from the outside of the pleat towards the zipper. The material could only come from the crotch.
 
For all of you Luxire haters, my pants just arrived. Dugdale flannel, double pleated, sewn in crease (military crease), coin pocket, side adjusters, slanted 2" cuffs, and 9" leg openings. Good luck finding that RTW for $99. They need a pressing, but you get the picture.

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Those pants were copied from a real trousermaker or they did from scratch? If was the second, are far better than their unshirts. If are copied, are untailors as any real tailor should ever copy the work of another or even sugest that shame on their webpage.
 

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