As did the Junta in Argentina, suspect you know all about the Night of the Pencils?
In accordance with CRT, you, yourself are responsible for that and should be up for reparations. That's if your family were part of the junta.I hadn’t been born. Also not sure what you are getting at. I come from a country that had a military-driven-event against some of it’s citizens 45 years ago. What’s your point?
Lol. You are funny. Also a moron. Please tell me how Latin America worksIn accordance with CRT, you, yourself are responsible for that and should be up for reparations. That's if your family were part of the junta.
You're working in London, educated and so clearly haven't come from a villa miseria or you wouldn't have got of Argentina. I know how it works in Latin America, I've had dealings there for well over 20 years.
Any skeletons in your cupboard, genetic links to the fascist regime?
If you're viewing the world through CRT, you have to man up and take responsibility for that.
Do you get it now?
It doesn't work, does it? Unless you're at the very top. But you already know that.Lol. You are funny. Also a moron. Please tell me how Latin America works
Your lack of direct and immediate retort, tells me all I need to know.Yes and as I’m sure you know, all 45 million of us are Maxima’s extended family.
Your poorly constructed ad-hominem attacks ignored, you lack of comprehension of Latin America’s history and politics is almost as astounding as your lack of comprehension of Critical Race Theory.
A subject of the Great United Kingdom, talking about how things are at the very top. Now that’s rich.
The Mothers of the Disappeared and the Night of the Pencils, is not a comic-book understanding of Latin American Politics, in this case Argentina. Plenty of other examples of what Latin American Politics is all about within living memory and even now.Would you kindly stop accusing my (middle class immigrant) family of some untold and horrible crime you deduct they committed based on your comic-book understanding of Latin American Politics?
I fail to see how you attacking my family is relevant to a discussion on (your very poor understanding of) CRT?
It's embarrassing how this is not understood pretty much everywhere in the public representation of this topic.The problem isn't with teaching CRT per se, it's teaching it as though it's incontrovertible fact when what it actually is is an intellectual framework to look at society. One of many.
By all means, teach it, but teach it critically as you would hopefully Marxism, Liberalism &c...
That is your opinion, with which I agree, but it is not what those people propose.you need to view from multiple perspectives and then decide which combinations are most useful.
It's embarrassing how this is not understood pretty much everywhere in the public representation of this topic.
That is your opinion, with which I agree, but it is not what those people propose.
no that doesn't say it all. that in fact says that spending money on needless luxury housing is taking money away from spending on minority needs as a way to frame the debate. you don't do well with metaphors.Not my cup of tea at all. This say's it all: ''Every dollar spent on luxury housing that is not spent on improving Black healthcare and Black schools is a deal made with the Space Traders.''
you're just making up terms nowIt's Neo-Marxism, stated and transparent.
THEY DON'T JESUS CHRISTWhere do white trash fit in with CRT?
WERE THEY KEPT AS SLAVES BY THEIR FELLOW WHITE MEN???Have they not been exploited too or are they digging their psychic white privilege.
WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLES OF WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE TALKING ABOUTSo some homeless white crack head on Venice Beach has more privilege than black professionals, be they academics, in law, banking, sportsmen or musicians, or what have you?
now this is actually a good talking point and something that should be dissected by the black population in general.And in saying that, are successful black Americans Uncle Tom's or worse, race traitors, for investing in luxury housing for them and their families? Why are they not thinking of the collective, instead of making sell-out deals with the Space Traders?
what the fuck does CRT have to do with court?It stinks, it's toxic and has no place in the school, court or university.
no one said they were. you're the only one pumping this fallacy.The race issues in America are not going to be solved by CRT
again, no one even said it was a philosophy. its entirely a construct of white right wingers like yourself who just can't stand the fact that your ancestors kept black people as slaves. hearing about it makes you all so so upset.but as a valid philosophy?
again, this literally is not being said by anyone.You cannot escape it's fallacy that everything, absolutely is to be viewed through the prism of racial exploitation of blacks by whites.
no, no its not.As Formby it's way too complex for Marxism to grapple with.
no, no its not. none of this is in any way true.Marxism is a failed science: it looked at economics, society and if you like psychology and sociology and delivered utter failure. Strategically quite brilliant, tactically an embarrassment. It cannot be called out enough for the human misery it has caused.
oh so british people didn't keep slaves? tell us more western man!Agree that CRT has a place to be taught in a wider study of history and sociology, limited to the USA, but it has no place in primary school, or in indoctrinating youth.
i don't know. you don't live here so you really don't understand any of this, but if YOU were kept as a slave and your ancestors fought a war to liberate yourselves from slavery, and all around you in the modern era you see how the country and its people are literally exploiting you and siphoning off wealth from your community at every turn, then you yourself might be a little bit pissed off about that fact. it seems plausible at least...It's so ugly for the future of race relations, I cannot understand how a sophisticated society like the USA with it's history has been seduced by a ideology that will lead to a hyper-racialised society filled to the brim of grudges, historic reparations from 200 years ago, tribalism, race quotas and eventually apartheid based on mutual hatred with never the twain to meet.
They are "the scientific community", because standpoint theory is a key tenet of critical race theory. The "view from multiple perspectives and then decide which combinations are most useful" which Dropbear proposed is not really what CRT is about, as you may be aware. That does not mean that there isn't some important/interesting academic CRT literature especially in the early stuff, there might even be reasonable CRT scholars today.what people? who are these boogey men you all have invented?
I've had plenty of ad hominem attacks on here and threats to my family life. Don't you worry about that, along with S&M gay porn sent to me in PM's. Which I must say, is quite unusual for a style forum.Lol. Does this mean ad hominem attack
If you look back over the last 500 years, most societies kept slaves. From the native Americans, Africans, Arabs, Russians, Indians, Europeans etc, etc. It's not unique to western civilization. Also you can cite conditions of the British working class in the 19th century in the mills and factory system which left people no better than slaves and with life expectancy to match. Even in 1918 the average life expectancy of Welsh slate miner was late 30's.no, no its not. none of this is in any way true.
oh so british people didn't keep slaves? tell us more western man!
i don't know. you don't live here so you really don't understand any of this, but if YOU were kept as a slave and your ancestors fought a war to liberate yourselves from slavery, and all around you in the modern era you see how the country and its people are literally exploiting you and siphoning off wealth from your community at every turn, then you yourself might be a little bit pissed off about that fact. it seems plausible at least...
the ugly truth about race relations is that we've been ass fucking these people for hundreds of years and in no way, shape, or form have ever done anything about even attempting to pay them back in full, much less even do right by them. allowing them to use the same water fountain isn't exactly a system of wealth redistribution.
yes keep going....If you look back over the last 500 years, most societies kept slaves. From the native Americans, Africans, Arabs, Russians, Indians, Europeans etc, etc. It's not unique to western civilization. Also you can cite conditions of the British working class in the 19th century in the mills and factory system which left people no better than slaves and with life expectancy to match. Even in 1918 the average life expectancy of Welsh slate miner was late 30's.
why? you realize we only ended segregation a generation ago. these "sportsman" probably have grandparents that got their asses kicked for talking to a white man or woman.For non-Americans, it's strange to see highly privileged sportsman, actors and musicians with chips on their shoulders for historic crimes and injustices that they have never experienced.
england's entire economy was funded through the cotton they were getting from america after its founding. cotton that was, of course, produced by slaves. i also like the "other than the colonies that kept slaves they didn't have slaves" dropped in there. as if somehow they couldn't figure out those darn colonies they controlled. lets not even pretend to think about places like africa and india. sure there were no slaves there in the 1800's!The Brits had the morals to move to end and defeat the slave trade with gunships interrupting the slave routes before anyone. Other than the colonies, England did not have a slave economy, unlike the American plantation system.
again you just do not understand this country. its not a moral victory or an emotional one, although those things are important in and of themselves. its an economic victory. we have kept black wealth in this country down since slaves became free and done everything in our power to continue to do so until the present day. since you're so fond of doing research on this subject look up black wealth statistics going back 100+ years and see how they're actually lower now than they were after segregation ended.But what do you propose to right historic injustices, how can a historic wrong to people who are already dead, be paid for to their ancestors, who may be poor, working, middle or upper class? How will that bring justice to those who experienced slavery?
maybe. isn't that for them to decide?Should rich black Americans receive the same wealth redistribution as poor blacks?
maybe. isn't that for them to decide?And should the poor blacks have parity with rich black Americans?
with money. the answer to all of your questions is money.How are you going to artificially right a quality of hurt?
i assure you that you are wrong.I don't believe money or reparations will rectify that.
what is not enough? what does collin kaepernick have to do with this discussion in any way, shape, or form? further more, what does one single individual have to do with this discussion of the most broad issue imaginable? i do not understand the obsession you have with boiling every single issue down to one instance or one single talking point. its not productive.As you see with the likes of Kaepernick a very rich and privileged man by any account, it's still not enough.
because it was a completely symbolic gesture. again, what does a symbolic gesture have to do with slavery and reparations???Then what? Taking the knee, that means nothing and it delivers nothing to poor black Americans struggling in the inner cities of America.
well you never really did as evidenced by your discussion on this subject.As you say, we non-Americans don't understand your culture anymore.
you're going to have your own reckoning on this subject, one way or another.It's not something we Europeans look on with envy, which at one time many of us did.
CRT, which your postings show you agree with, would make you personally responsible for rectifying historic injustices and terror from the time of the junta. And much closer than historic slavery and jim crow in the USA.
The whole trans ideology has nothing to do with being trans, as India Willoughby and others with skin in the game have called out. It's part of the bigger long con and trans women are pawns in the game and cis women are expendable.Enjoyed this. Probably does deserve its own thread though.
I asked this on Twitter and I ask it of myself. The thing that people never realise is just quite how much I consider these things, quite how much I have had to. For many years I have single-handedly supported a family. My job is writing. Before journalism, there were many other jobs. I expect...suzannemoore.substack.com
If you look back over the last 500 years, most societies kept slaves. From the native Americans, Africans, Arabs, Russians, Indians, Europeans etc, etc. It's not unique to western civilisation.....
Yeah gonna need a few citations on this one big guyThe whole trans ideology has nothing to do with being trans, as India Willoughby and others with skin in the game have called out. It's part of the bigger long con and trans women are pawns in the game and cis women are expendable.
Not really, it's quite clear in the real world. Whilst there's many genders and fluid ones...Yeah gonna need a few citations on this one big guy
The common denominator there is Labour run councils. But then again, remember that care home in Wrexham where the Conservative MP of Chester, Peter Morrison use to visit in the 80's? He was a known nonce, gets special mention in Edwina Currie's autobiography. And he looked the type 100%. He had very nice house in Mollington, you could see it from the A41.I struggled to read this all the way to the end. It made my piss boil.
The 1980s child abuse scandal reminds us that now, as then, being ‘on the side of the angels’ has to be backed with actionwww.theguardian.com
It is worth remembering that some of the perpetrators and enablers of this are enjoying comfortable retirements subsidised by the taxpayer which will include the abused.
one of your like minded peopleNot really, it's quite clear in the real world. Whilst there's many genders and fluid ones...
When it comes to menstruation, giving birth and being a cis-woman and trans-woman having transitioned MTF with HRT and all the surgery - that's 50% of the population plus a very small niche who have gone all the way and deserve full recognition and respect.
There's a big difference between them...
And the half-way houses: the self-declare themselves as women tomorrow, or be non-binary but expect the same status and access to female physical zones, etc.
No, sorry, you have to earn that.