Pitti 87

Since I follow Lino on Instag, I have to say that he is rather conservative in this approach this year compared to the others at Pitti.. IMO, he is consistently outlandish but not offensive.

I haven't seen pics of the Wooster yet.
 
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So, as mentioned earlier in this thread, StyleForum paid for several people to attend Pitti this year (as it has for the past couple of years). Amongst the official SF contingent were Fok, his wife Jen, Synthese/Jasper, Unbelragazzo/David, and a female fashion blogger who was previously totally unaffiliated with SF but who, it seems, SF paid to fly from Singapore to Italy to attend Pitti so that she could write about it.

I used to enjoy SF's Pitti coverage but, after a couple of years of reading pretty much precisely the same gonzo journalism over and over and over, I'm getting rather tired of it. Most of SF's coverage goes like this (note - this is my precis of much of the writing):

"I got up and felt terrible. My face was puffy and head felt as though it was filled with glue. I couldn't eat any breakfast. I got lost trying to find the Fortezza. It was very crowded and there were crowds of people smoking with their feet up on the wall showing off for Scott Shuman and Tommy Ton. I headed inside and it was very crowded. I managed to get the press room where I lined up with some rude Europeans and ate some pasta. We met Greg of No Man Walks Alone. I dived into the mass of exhibitors again. My feet are very sore. We headed back to the hotel before meeting for dinner, where we ate huge amounts of food and drank too much. We then went to a bar where we again drank too much. I fell into bed at 3am knowing that I have to be up early to do it all over again."

If you were thinking that the above passage contains virtually no information about clothing whatsoever, then you'd be right. SF sends at least five people to a menswear exhibition but most of the posts by the people that they send make very, very little mention of clothing and instead mostly write about themselves, how they feel, and the food that they eat.

Interestingly, it appears that I'm not alone in my thinking as a few other people on SF have mentioned the same thing, including Dieworkwear:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/450222/the-pittilogues-pitti-uomo-87-day-2/30
 
Journeyman said:
So, as mentioned earlier in this thread, StyleForum paid for several people to attend Pitti this year (as it has for the past couple of years). Amongst the official SF contingent were Fok, his wife Jen, Synthese/Jasper, Unbelragazzo/David, and a female fashion blogger who was previously totally unaffiliated with SF but who, it seems, SF paid to fly from Singapore to Italy to attend Pitti so that she could write about it.

I used to enjoy SF's Pitti coverage but, after a couple of years of reading pretty much precisely the same gonzo journalism over and over and over, I'm getting rather tired of it. Most of SF's coverage goes like this (note - this is my precis of much of the writing):

"I got up and felt terrible. My face was puffy and head felt as though it was filled with glue. I couldn't eat any breakfast. I got lost trying to find the Fortezza. It was very crowded and there were crowds of people smoking with their feet up on the wall showing off for Scott Shuman and Tommy Ton. I headed inside and it was very crowded. I managed to get the press room where I lined up with some rude Europeans and ate some pasta. We met Greg of No Man Walks Alone. I dived into the mass of exhibitors again. My feet are very sore. We headed back to the hotel before meeting for dinner, where we ate huge amounts of food and drank too much. We then went to a bar where we again drank too much. I fell into bed at 3am knowing that I have to be up early to do it all over again."

If you were thinking that the above passage contains virtually no information about clothing whatsoever, then you'd be right. SF sends at least five people to a menswear exhibition but most of the posts by the people that they send make very, very little mention of clothing and instead mostly write about themselves, how they feel, and the food that they eat.

Interestingly, it appears that I'm not alone in my thinking as a few other people on SF have mentioned the same thing, including Dieworkwear:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/450222/the-pittilogues-pitti-uomo-87-day-2/30
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they should send bret easton ellis over
i'd enjoy the writing
 
From the subsequent posts there seems to be, as always, differences of opinions as to what people want from the crack investigative reporting team sent to Pitti.

I would think that since people refrain from commenting on the pictures of Pitti Peacocks, given that negative comments are not desired and there are precious few agreeable pictures posted for people to agree with, and that since most people are advanced dressers they need not see pictures or descriptions of new clothes for the upcoming season as that will be done for them and put up for sale on NMWA, most would rather live vicariously through the team.

What the team sees is less important to the voyeurs; they need not be their virtual eyes. More the virtual stomachs and livers as it seems how one eats, sleeps and drinks at Pitti is what people are looking for.

I for one would be very interested in a description of the cacophony of sounds and a description of the stench from the Pitti Poopers. I sometime forget that the Pittistas must defecate like the rest of us lumpen mortals
 
Someone noted in EFV's Pitti pic thread a photographer should take the initiative in capturing the well dressed people instead of the clowns. The SF core membership would rather read and see the current 'reporting,' the reality tv drivel they get now. They cater to the facebook millennial crowd. Jasper's crushed when an Asian female blogger wearing a shearling jacket asks him to get out of the way of her shot of Greg.
 
Journeyman said:
So, as mentioned earlier in this thread, StyleForum paid for several people to attend Pitti this year (as it has for the past couple of years). Amongst the official SF contingent were Fok, his wife Jen, Synthese/Jasper, Unbelragazzo/David, and a female fashion blogger who was previously totally unaffiliated with SF but who, it seems, SF paid to fly from Singapore to Italy to attend Pitti so that she could write about it.

I used to enjoy SF's Pitti coverage but, after a couple of years of reading pretty much precisely the same gonzo journalism over and over and over, I'm getting rather tired of it. Most of SF's coverage goes like this (note - this is my precis of much of the writing):

"I got up and felt terrible. My face was puffy and head felt as though it was filled with glue. I couldn't eat any breakfast. I got lost trying to find the Fortezza. It was very crowded and there were crowds of people smoking with their feet up on the wall showing off for Scott Shuman and Tommy Ton. I headed inside and it was very crowded. I managed to get the press room where I lined up with some rude Europeans and ate some pasta. We met Greg of No Man Walks Alone. I dived into the mass of exhibitors again. My feet are very sore. We headed back to the hotel before meeting for dinner, where we ate huge amounts of food and drank too much. We then went to a bar where we again drank too much. I fell into bed at 3am knowing that I have to be up early to do it all over again."

If you were thinking that the above passage contains virtually no information about clothing whatsoever, then you'd be right. SF sends at least five people to a menswear exhibition but most of the posts by the people that they send make very, very little mention of clothing and instead mostly write about themselves, how they feel, and the food that they eat.

Interestingly, it appears that I'm not alone in my thinking as a few other people on SF have mentioned the same thing, including Dieworkwear:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/450222/the-pittilogues-pitti-uomo-87-day-2/30
Click to expand...


I know one of my expossed Spanish bloggers, an asshole ignorant who recommends the worst ever tailors, wrote a book about how to dress where he recommends red shoes ( not burgundy, i mean red) for office ( only Ronald Mc Donald does red shoes) among all kind of nonsense, and he was all day strong on charlie. ( His pics
that day look from a NYC or Amsterdam after hour disco a Sunday at 10 pm)

Also some Neapolitan friends agreed, a weird Spanish tried to take pics with me, he had all his face sweated as if he was on his fifth gram and also got no nose bone remaining, looked a mad boxed brainless or a fucking junkie on a poor suit.
 
Sartodinapoli said:
I know one of my expossed Spanish bloggers, an asshole ignorant who recommends the worst ever tailors, wrote a book about how to dress where he recommends red shoes ( not burgundy, i mean red) for office ( only Ronald Mc Donald does red shoes) among all kind of nonsense, and he was all day strong on charlie. ( His pics
that day look from a NYC or Amsterdam after hour disco a Sunday at 10 pm)

Also some Neapolitan friends agreed, a weird Spanish tried to take pics with me, he had all his face sweated as if he was on his fifth gram and also got no nose bone remaining, looked a mad boxed brainless or a fucking junkie on a poor suit.
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man where you meet all these people. you got such an interesting life.
 
ConchitaWurst said:
man where you meet all these people. you got such an interesting life.
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Bloggers mate, all are degenerate vicious scammers, addicteds, low class wannabe( Craptom said he was a " mochilero" a bagman who travelled the world as damn leftist
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bakpacker ( instead of travel in on a Bentley and good hotels as he pretends to show now ( lumpen, low class of the low class) and then pretends to give lessons about high life and top tailors or 6000 euros Vuitton bags. jajaja damn shill faker and tacky unelegant. When i see him, the last concept he transmits is elegance. To me is a sid vicious on a stolen bad suit.

This is a mochilero. When i see one i want to spray him with anticoacraches spray, as my body itches me, from so many bugs they have, the dirty scums. Wow i really enjoy cop violence against those, in fact when i drive i push the police on riots, use the fully auto mode and the flame thrower, desinfect our city officers!!!

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Journeyman said:
"I got up and felt terrible. My face was puffy and head felt as though it was filled with glue. I couldn't eat any breakfast. I got lost trying to find the Fortezza. It was very crowded and there were crowds of people smoking with their feet up on the wall showing off for Scott Shuman and Tommy Ton. I headed inside and it was very crowded. I managed to get the press room where I lined up with some rude Europeans and ate some pasta. We met Greg of No Man Walks Alone. I dived into the mass of exhibitors again. My feet are very sore. We headed back to the hotel before meeting for dinner, where we ate huge amounts of food and drank too much. We then went to a bar where we again drank too much. I fell into bed at 3am knowing that I have to be up early to do it all over again."
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Nice try JM, but if you are angling for free tickets to Pitti 88 I would suggest you try to work "it was a dark and stormy night" somewhere into your manuscript.
 
Looks like a miniature turkey marararo's lapel.

Amish coat needs longer straps for convertible straight jacket. Pitti's three years behind MTV on exploiting the Amish.
 
I must admit I haven't read much of SF coverage.

And I'd agree that snarking on the Pitti wall is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at a fun parlor while drunk. Not that it stops me. I do know 2 blokes personally who were at Pitti this year . And snapped. I'll be meeting with them in a week or so to debrief.

I tend to look here to see whats happening: http://www.fashionising.com/search/pitti

I don't really have a problem with SF kiddie lite personal/ gonzo style writing. But it is beginner stuff. Lets face it. No drugs, no sex, no ennui, no politics, no insight. And most notably no rock n roll. Or kids.

Anyway I do like their meta comment style even whilst noting I can do much better.

Lets remember SF is about clicks and, secondarily, clicks through. Content is subservient to clicks.

What I'd like to see is more descriptions of whats actually on offer, what the next seasons RTW/OTR colours /shapes are, prices, eu trends, Asia trends, usa trends etc.

I'd like see more about the industry /supply chain/margin stuff. I don't necessarily expect SF to bite the hand - I'd just like to see it somewhere.

If SF spends on my estimation around $15,000 usa or so getting there - I realise they have to recoup that from affiliates/shills/scamsters and tackies. Hell - I'm in business too.

I'd like to know what Made in Italy really means. I alway assume it means fuck all.

I'd like to know what is selling in volumes. What Joe and Jill Normal Decent Person will want/wear. I like cutting edge /streetwear too. I want to know about factories. EU tariffs. USA protectionism.FTAs - in depth what they really say and what effect they have.

I do realise its a shock for americans to encounter real food, and possibly even real coffee, and in their excitement write about it for the home audience.. But it is not news to me.
 
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fxh fxh - Precisely. Very well said.

In the past, after the gonzo journalism "Whoo, we're in Italy and are live-blogging from Pitti!" threads have died down, SF has published separate threads over the following few weeks that have focussed on particular brands, with photos of their exhibits and sometimes interviews with people from the brands, and I have appreciated that info.

Interestingly, in one of the Pitti threads this year, Fok noted that they may not be doing that this year as the follow-up, "brands in depth" threads don't seem to draw that much attention.

I didn't say it, but I have a feeling that the lack of attention might be due to over-saturation of Pitti coverage. After all, once you've read through three or four "live-blogging" threads and then another couple of brand threads, you're probably feeling a bit Pitti-ed out.
 
Pitti is dead, read my post on SF Pitti thread.

Brands realiced going there was losing money, and that peackocks, tackys, bloggers, degenerates were not his target, so better leave them to get aids asap on the pitti afterhour "mens" party and return to dress gentleman and serious people.
 
Tonight I say 3 Hail Marys for you.
Tomorrow the Rosary.
Next week I do the stations of the cross.
Next month I make a Novena.
I pray that you have good tailors and shirtmakers.
 
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