Scottish Independence Vote

I love how the news outlets keep the story boiling even though the polling data showed an obvious no vote.
 
After reading into it a bit, I couldn't see how Scottish independence could be anything but a bad thing. Glad to hear the sane people won out.

Catalonia's another basket case. Really? What do you think your economy is going to be based on? The Camp Nou?
 
El Argentino said:
After reading into it a bit, I couldn't see how Scottish independence could be anything but a bad thing. Glad to hear the sane people won out.

Catalonia's another basket case. Really? What do you think your economy is going to be based on? The Camp Nou?
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Catalonia's a little better case than Spain, in that Catalonia is doing better, economically, than the rest of Spain, and the rest of Spain is poorly governed. But I still would prefer that secession not happen.
 
John Lee Pettimore III said:
Catalonia's a little better case than Spain, in that Catalonia is doing better, economically, than the rest of Spain, and the rest of Spain is poorly governed. But I still would prefer that secession not happen.
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In the global age the size of your economy is more important than the quality. It almost never makes sense to be a smaller country without hyper inequality.
 
doghouse said:
In the global age the size of your economy is more important than the quality. It almost never makes sense to be a smaller country without hyper inequality.
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There are pluses and minuses to this. The larger you are, the more inefficient you are. Smaller countries tend to do better in lots of social categories, the macroeconomic ones are debatable, unless you are an oil rich state or have another mineral, it's harder to compete.

I think the larger question is whether people that don't get along should be forced to live together. It's like a marriage where you stay together because it would be too expensive to divorce.
 
OfficePants said:
There are pluses and minuses to this. The larger you are, the more inefficient you are. Smaller countries tend to do better in lots of social categories, the macroeconomic ones are debatable, unless you are an oil rich state or have another mineral, it's harder to compete.

I think the larger question is whether people that don't get along should be forced to live together. It's like a marriage where you stay together because it would be too expensive to divorce.
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Well, I'm speaking from a strictly economic standpoint on that. China has a lot of economic muscle and a totally shitty society obviously.

But to your second point, this had nothing to do with people not getting along, these are all the same people and the responses bear this out with most respondents saying they feel British in any interviews on the subject. If you were to draw a lion separating Albion into to halves, it would be much lower than the Scottish border. People in Northumberland are much closer to the Scots than to London. This vote was about selfishness more than anything else. The Yes crowd just used every emotional appeal they could think of to get the impressionable folk along for the ride.
 
Countless evidences of fraud during the recent Scottish Referendum have come to light, including two counts of votes being moved in bulk into a No pile, Yes votes clearly being seen in no piles and strange occurences with dual fire alarms and clear cut fraud in Glasgow. We demand a revote be taken of said referendum, where each vote shall be counted by two individuals, one of whom should be an international impartial party without a stake in the vote.
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https://www.change.org/p/alex-salmo...um-counted-by-impartial-international-parties
 
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