The First Israel/Iran War

[Grand Potentate]

Mark your calendars when Genocide Joe and Bibi the Butcher decided to plunge the world into chaos.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Biden told Netanyahu US will not participate in offensive operations against Iran, US official says​

 

[Dropbear]

Iran threw a lot of resources into this attack, but it looks like a failure so far.

- Iran attacked Israel for the first time from its territory, firing ~300 air targets: 185 drones and 146 missiles.
- The attack lasted about 5 hours.
- Some air targets were also launched from proxies in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.
- Israel, Jordan, the US and the UK intercepted a lot of the missiles and drones before they entered Israeli airspace.
-France provided airborne radar support, Saudi Arabia also provided tracking and targeting support
-Others were knocked out by ground-based air defense.

 

[Dropbear]

Latest update on Iran attack on Israel:



— IDF says it intercepted “99% of about 300 projectiles fired by Iran”.
- 170 UAVs, all shot down outside Israel.
- 30 cruise missiles, not a single one penetrated Israeli airspace. 25 were shot down.
- 120 ballistic missiles were fired. Some penetrated IDF air defence, hitting Nevatim Airbase. Minor damage of infrastructure admitted by IDF.
— Israel’s and Jordan’s airspace has been reopened.
— The US House of Representatives will meet in an emergency meeting to discuss the unscheduled supply of weapons to Israel.
— Biden told Netanyahu US will not participate in offensive operations against Iran.
— US forces intercepted more than 70 kamikaze UAVs and at least three ballistic missiles during Iran's attack on Israel.
— Iranian attack lasted for about 5 hours.

 

[Dropbear]

Iranian Major General Hussein Salami:

“We were able to penetrate the layers of the Zionist defense systems and its American and French allies. The operation was more successful than expected.”

 

[Grand Potentate]

Iranian Major General Hussein Salami:

“We were able to penetrate the layers of the Zionist defense systems and its American and French allies. The operation was more successful than expected.”

Even John Bolton was on CNN saying it was a complete failure by the Israelis.

 

[Dropbear]

Even John Bolton was on CNN saying it was a complete failure by the Israelis.

He said that Iran’s attack was a ‘massive failure’ in deterrence and diplomacy. I don’t think anyone outside of Tehran is trying to spin this as a successful military operation.

 

[Dropbear]

Bolton sounding very hawkish on retaliation for Iran’s failed attack:

U.S. ‘should proudly join’ Israel if they go after Iran’s nuclear program

Former national security adviser John Bolton on Sunday called on the United States to join Israel if they choose to go after Iran’s nuclear program in response to Tehran’s attack. Speak…

thehill.com

However, all of this is still a win for Iran if it indirectly helps their proxies in Gaza.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Bolton sounding very hawkish on retaliation for Iran’s failed attack:

well he's been trying to go to war with iran for 30 years now so not a surprise.

He said that Iran’s attack was a ‘massive failure’ in deterrence and diplomacy. I don’t think anyone outside of Tehran is trying to spin this as a successful military operation.

OH NO HE DIDN'T

 

[Dropbear]

well he's been trying to go to war with iran for 30 years now so not a surprise.


OH NO HE DIDN'T

Watch the video. That’s literally what he says: “A massive failure in deterrence”.

Bolton believes Iran would never have launched this (failed) attack if they had been more scared of a nuclear or overwhelming retaliation. He’s not exactly subtle.

 

[Grand Potentate]

Watch the video. That’s literally what he says: “A massive failure in deterrence”.

Yes and then he actually says "by the israeli's and america." What are we arguing about here?

 

[belinmad]

Yes and then he actually says "by the israeli's and america." What are we arguing about here?

Bolton referred to the attack as US and Israeli failing to deter Iran from launching the attack - which militarily speaking didn’t accomplish anything other than wounding a 9year bedouin girl.

Concretely, Biden said “don’t” to Iran, but then also told Bibi support wasn’t unconditional, so Iran took that as an opening and went ahead with it. This is the general argument that Bolton, Pompeo and all the other hawks are using against Biden.

Even John Bolton was on CNN saying it was a complete failure by the Israelis.

You seem to imply here that the actual attack was a success - or rather that Israel’s defense was a failure.

 

[Dropbear]

Shahed-136 drones, seemingly the main UAV used, are estimated to be around $20,000 per unit to produce domestically, but some estimates range from 10,000-50,000. Ballisitic missile costs seem to range anywhere from 150,000-300,000+. Cruise missile costs traditionally can range from between 1 million-6 million depending on the country and missile specifications. However, considering Iran's production costs for other weapons are usually lower, a range of 500,000-3 million seems fair.

A very rough estimate for the cost of Iran's attack, just of production cost of drones and missiles not accounting for logistical costs, based on those ranges would be $34.7 million to $134.5 million.

 

[Dropbear]

How Iran’s attack on Israel was stopped

Massive drone and missile attack was defeated by Israeli military with orchestrated help of US, UK and Jordan

www.theguardian.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

Why Iran’s retaliatory attack against Israel was not a ‘failure’

Inflated claims of Israel’s remarkable military success in thwarting Iran’s strikes ignores the fact that Iran was deliberately restrained to avoid regional war, while the strikes forced Israel to give away its defensive positions.

mondoweiss.net

 

[Dropbear]

Why Iran’s retaliatory attack against Israel was not a ‘failure’

Inflated claims of Israel’s remarkable military success in thwarting Iran’s strikes ignores the fact that Iran was deliberately restrained to avoid regional war, while the strikes forced Israel to give away its defensive positions.

mondoweiss.net

The world largest ever combined drone, ballistic and cruise missile assault against another nation was just theatre? That’s a stretch, though it’s true I guess that Iran tried to contain the fallout of their attack by telegraphing their assault to the allies.

The second point is ridiculous. The drones were all shot down by Jordanian, American and Brit fighter jets. Half of the 120 ballistic missiles failed to launch or crashed. I think one missile was reportedly downed by a Patriot battery in Iraq. A handful made it into Israeli airspace and were knocked out by missile defense and Iron Dome. What secret technology or locations were revealed? Or was it the revelation that the Arab world came to Israel’s defence?

 

[Grand Potentate]

U.S., Not Israel, Shot Down Most Iran Drones and Missiles

American forces did most of the heavy lifting responding to Iran’s retaliation for the attack on its embassy in Damascus.

theintercept.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

America Fueled the Fire in the Middle East

Israel is in growing danger—but the responsibility lies more in Washington than in Tehran.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[Grand Potentate]

What you need to know about the Iranian attack on Israel but will not find in your mainstream news provider

Iran’s weekend massive drone, cruise missile and ballistic missile attack on Israel has now been covered in the global media, with the headlines announcing that 99% of the barrage was shot down by …

gilbertdoctorow.com

 

[Dropbear]

Telegram is lighting up with stories of Israeli aircraft carrying out airstrike operations inside of Iran, which comes amid reports of explosions in Isfahan.

Exact target remains unknown, but is suspected to be an Iranian nuclear facility.

 

[QuandoDio]

This is crazy!! Seems like war is coming.

Any of you mofos have space for a bunker?

 

[Dropbear]

US confirmed that they hit an airbase (unclear if it’s the one with F14s or the drone factory). Meanwhile Iranian state media is denying that any attack ever took place - which may be their out for any retaliatory escalation.

This is crazy!! Seems like war is coming.

Any of you mofos have space for a bunker?

I have some room in my Dungeon of Disease

 

[Dropbear]

US State Dept calling it a ‘de-escalatory strike’. Some reports say it was Mossad not the IDF, as if this is less aggressive. The damage may have been to some old Russian S300 air defence batteries, to sent the message ‘we can stroke at the heart of your nuclear programme next door’. Meanwhile the Iranians are doing their best to downplay it all, now claiming to have shot down a few UFOs that originated from within the country.

All a bit of a nothing burger, so far.

Back to the proxy wars.

 

[Grand Potentate]