What Are You Wearing Today?

ConchitaWurst said:
you are very vain. you eveb use your tv as a mirror.
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Call him Mr. Raider, call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Vain
Call him Mr. Raider, call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Insane

He'd say, "I know what I want and I want it now
I want you cause I'm Mr. Vain
I know what I want and I want it now
I want you cause I'm Mr. Vain"
 
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LKP said:
Call him Mr. Raider, call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Vain
Call him Mr. Raider, call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Insane

He'd say, "I know what I want and I want it now
I want you cause I'm Mr. Vain
I know what I want and I want it now
I want you cause I'm Mr. Vain"
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very dutch song. this is a beter one


You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain,
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you?
Don't you?

Well, you had me several years ago
When I was still quite naive
When you said that we made such a pretty pair
And that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved
And one of them was me
I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee, and
 
ConchitaWurst said:
very dutch song. this is a beter one


You're so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You're so vain,
I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you?
Don't you?

Well, you had me several years ago
When I was still quite naive
When you said that we made such a pretty pair
And that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved
And one of them was me
I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee, and
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this must be some kind of techno remix of that song?
anything else would not even play on dutch systems?!
 
ConchitaWurst said:
it could be ring jacket sold a/o by the armoury, remember Monkeyface Monkeyface also got his eidos at the armoury whilst in ny
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Nope, never been to the armoury. I'd like to go though, maybe bring some socks for those poor fellows. It must be awfully tough realising you can't afford socks after having spent money on a liverano suit and st crispins shoes.

Anyways, this is a Valstarino I yooxed for 90 quid. Not a bad deal for a wool flannel jacket I'd say.

Also, if you're going to stalk me, at least get the details right. I deserve a better stalker than you, Conchita.
 
Monkeyface said:
Nope, never been to the armoury.

Also, if you're going to stalk me, at least get the details right. I deserve a better stalker than you, Conchita.
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Really, shame on you Conchita. How could you possibly confuse the Armoury with NMWA?
That is like confusing the viola milano guy with @danielre or PKL with LPK or total look mararo with total look pirozzi or sartoria pirozzi with pirozzi of 197 via Chiaia or Mohamad Ayoubi with Mr. Roberto Raro.
 
FriendCustomer said:
Really, shame on you Conchita. How could you possibly confuse the Armoury with NMWA?
That is like confusing the viola milano guy with @danielre or PKL with LPK or total look mararo with total look pirozzi or sartoria pirozzi with pirozzi of 197 via Chiaia or Mohamad Ayoubi with Mr. Raro.
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or mihamad ayoubi with mohammed emwazi
 
Monkeyface said:
Nope, never been to the armoury. I'd like to go though, maybe bring some socks for those poor fellows. It must be awfully tough realising you can't afford socks after having spent money on a liverano suit and st crispins shoes.

Anyways, this is a Valstarino I yooxed for 90 quid. Not a bad deal for a wool flannel jacket I'd say.

Also, if you're going to stalk me, at least get the details right. I deserve a better stalker than you, Conchita.
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That is a really good price
 
FriendCustomer said:
Really, shame on you Conchita. How could you possibly confuse the Armoury with NMWA?
That is like confusing the viola milano guy with @danielre or PKL with LPK or total look mararo with total look pirozzi or sartoria pirozzi with pirozzi of 197 via Chiaia or Mohamad Ayoubi with Mr. Roberto Raro.
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Indeedy.

The only thing I've ever bought from NMWA is a briefcase, and that was a pretty good deal as well. The only SF affiliate I really support is Exquisite Trimmings. The name of his store is a bit silly, but he does have good ties, often at a lower price than the manufacturers themselves offer them.

Anyways, you can hate on Eidos as much as you want, but no one has shown a comparable brand as of yet. The same deal as I have with Luxire still stands. Show me a brand/maker you like that has a similar price/quality ratio and I'll switch to that one. So far, no one has been able to do that, which tells me that your hate is unwarranted.
 
Monkeyface said:
Indeedy.

The only thing I've ever bought from NMWA is a briefcase, and that was a pretty good deal as well. The only SF affiliate I really support is Exquisite Trimmings. The name of his store is a bit silly, but he does have good ties, often at a lower price than the manufacturers themselves offer them.

Anyways, you can hate on Eidos as much as you want, but no one has shown a comparable brand as of yet. The same deal as I have with Luxire still stands. Show me a brand/maker you like that has a similar price/quality ratio and I'll switch to that one. So far, no one has been able to do that, which tells me that your hate is unwarranted.
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wai buy poor peoplez brands?
 
Monkeyface said:
Because I'm poor. I'm willing to receive donations over PayPal. Nothing out of Russia though, or the Financial Conduct Authority will investigate it.
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go work
its emereka
live the dream
have three jobs
your eidos outfits might get you extra tips
 
Monkeyface said:
Because I'm poor. I'm willing to receive donations over PayPal. Nothing out of Russia though, or the Financial Conduct Authority will investigate it.
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Sorry, but PayPal won't let me send you Bit Coins directly and I am to miserly to convert to real £££.

Raro Meow Meow accepts teh Bit Coins. Well he thinks they are bit coins but they are arcade tokens from Coney Island.
 
Monkeyface said:
Indeedy.

The only thing I've ever bought from NMWA is a briefcase, and that was a pretty good deal as well. The only SF affiliate I really support is Exquisite Trimmings. The name of his store is a bit silly, but he does have good ties, often at a lower price than the manufacturers themselves offer them.

Anyways, you can hate on Eidos as much as you want, but no one has shown a comparable brand as of yet. The same deal as I have with Luxire still stands. Show me a brand/maker you like that has a similar price/quality ratio and I'll switch to that one. So far, no one has been able to do that, which tells me that your hate is unwarranted.
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I don't think that many people here hate Luxire or Eidos. Hating suggests one has to care enough about it to formulate hate. Well Sartodinapoli hates Luxire.

If there is hate/dislike it stems from - as usually is the case - the uninformed making uninformed decisions and ending up with ill-fitting and or I'll-thought out shirts etc.

For someone who is looking for a cost-effective factory MTM shirt, go for it. As you have said you cannot find other MTO or bespoke in the same price range.

Same for Eidos. Coronating a new brand the next big thing as SF does leads to noobs and knobs jumping in on the uptake without figuring out if it works for their size/shape.

Again, if it works for you fit-wise and cost-wise who am I to say good or bad.

The one thing you will find here as opposed to SF is that none of the members that do bespoke, or MTM for that matter, pimp their particular makers much or at all. They speak of them in general terms within the context of what they like and what they get out of the interaction with the tailors. Which - other than being pleased with the shirt or suit - someone does not get directly from Luxire or Eidos. But that May not be important for some
 
Monkeyface said:
I'm always afraid people think I'm hiding a gun when I put my hands in my pockets like that. It might look good in a picture, but it looks ridiculous in real life.
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You must be afraid seeing so many people keeping their hands warm on the street.
 
LelandJ said:
You must be afraid seeing so many people keeping their hands warm on the street.
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No, it's just with this particular jacket. Putting your hands in your pocket forces them in a particular angle, because the pockets are so high. It makes it look like you have a gun in your pocket and pointing it at someone. Like they do in cartoons. A baddie puts the gun in his pocket and points it at the hero from within his pocket.
 
Thruth said:
I don't think that many people here hate Luxire or Eidos. Hating suggests one has to care enough about it to formulate hate. Well Sartodinapoli hates Luxire.

If there is hate/dislike it stems from - as usually is the case - the uninformed making uninformed decisions and ending up with ill-fitting and or I'll-thought out shirts etc.

For someone who is looking for a cost-effective factory MTM shirt, go for it. As you have said you cannot find other MTO or bespoke in the same price range.

Same for Eidos. Coronating a new brand the next big thing as SF does leads to noobs and knobs jumping in on the uptake without figuring out if it works for their size/shape.

Again, if it works for you fit-wise and cost-wise who am I to say good or bad.

The one thing you will find here as opposed to SF is that none of the members that do bespoke, or MTM for that matter, pimp their particular makers much or at all. They speak of them in general terms within the context of what they like and what they get out of the interaction with the tailors. Which - other than being pleased with the shirt or suit - someone does not get directly from Luxire or Eidos. But that May not be important for some
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I don't get your post. We're talking about RTW here. You're not going to get anything out of the interaction with a sales associate, so why would you talk about it?

Not everyone can afford bespoke or thinks it's worth it. I think dropping £3k-£5k on a suit if you don't make at least £500k/year is ridiculous, which means bespoke is only possible for a very small subsection of people. I might do it later in life, but at 23 my priority is saving enough so I can buy an apartment. Hence I'm going to try to find something that I find acceptable, but isn't going to break the bank. Not just for clothes, but everything.

I'm not looking for the best, merely something that's adequate within a certain price range. The most I've ever spent on a suit is about £400.
 
saving for flats is so petty bourgeois, nyec

spending that much on a bespoke suit is stupid indeed

i think also gangsters do not want to spoil their jackets with bulletholes

nice saturday everybody
 
Monkeyface said:
I don't get your post. We're talking about RTW here. You're not going to get anything out of the interaction with a sales associate, so why would you talk about it?

Not everyone can afford bespoke or thinks it's worth it. I think dropping £3k-£5k on a suit if you don't make at least £500k/year is ridiculous, which means bespoke is only possible for a very small subsection of people. I might do it later in life, but at 23 my priority is saving enough so I can buy an apartment. Hence I'm going to try to find something that I find acceptable, but isn't going to break the bank. Not just for clothes, but everything.

I'm not looking for the best, merely something that's adequate within a certain price range. The most I've ever spent on a suit is about £400.
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Yes I suppose i should have broken out individual themes separately.

Small point but in general terms i think it is possible to get bespoke at less than what you quote and you don't have to make anywhere close to what you say you need to make to afford bespoke. But these are moot point with respect to you specifically and no one is telling you what you should do.

You choose to afford what you can and want to afford. Understood and reasonable.

It is still possible to have good interactions with SA's even in RTW establishments.
 
I've looked into traveling tailors, but it seems like a hassle, with a higher chance of receiving substandard goods/no goods. A good off-Savile Row tailor will cost at least £2500 for bespoke. Steed bespoke with a basic fabric is around that.

Call me crazy, but I'm not dropping that much on a suit. Percentage wise I'd have to make around £480k to justify a £3k suit.

Do remember I'm living in London, with the associated high costs of living. Housing prices are going up faster than my salary year on year, and my salary curve is very steep compared to my peers.
 
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LKP said:
your calculator is not all-purpose? :-(
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I'm afraid not, everyone's financial situation and goals are different. Go to a financial advisor, tell him your hopes and dreams and see how much he thinks is responsible.
 
Monkeyface said:
I've looked into traveling tailors, but it seems like a hassle, with a higher chance of receiving substandard goods/no goods. A good off-Savile Row tailor will cost at least £2500 for bespoke. Steed bespoke with a basic fabric is around that.

Call me crazy, but I'm not dropping that much on a suit. Percentage wise I'd have to make around £480k to justify a £3k suit.

Do remember I'm living in London, with the associated high costs of living. Housing prices are going up faster than my salary year on year, and my salary curve is very steep compared to my peers.
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Keep on doing what you are doing given where you are in life. However just be aware that Europe is a big place and you can get quality bespoke at prices well below what you quote. It may involve travel but that can be fairly cheap. Regional UK bespoke tailors are even an option.

I am sure Sartodinapoli could introduce you to good old tailors in Napoli who could fit you up at far less than you quote.

But it would still be more than what you are willing/able to pay for a suit. You have a plan so stick with it. Just don't overgeneralize based on your fairly narrow experience to date
 
Thruth said:
Keep on doing what you are doing given where you are in life. However just be aware that Europe is a big place and you can get quality bespoke at prices well below what you quote. It may involve travel but that can be fairly cheap. Regional UK bespoke tailors are even an option.

I am sure Sartodinapoli could introduce you to good old tailors in Napoli who could fit you up at far less than you quote.

But it would still be more than what you are willing/able to pay for a suit. You have a plan so stick with it. Just don't overgeneralize based on your fairly narrow experience to date
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Cheers. I am always talking about myself, don't want to presume anything about someone else's situation. Traveling to Naples just for a suit doesn't seem to make much sense. A weekend flight is about 100 quid, and and a night at a hotel will be around 75.

A good bespoke suit takes 3 fittings, right? So that's 3 trips at 175 a pop, which will make any Naples suit 525 more expensive, which I'm guessing will bring the total cost 2k+? Or am I doing the math wrong? How do others do this?

Btw, traveling to Naples for 3 weekends just for a suit seems pretty miserable to me. It's not exactly the nicest city in Italy.
 
I put that forward just to show that even with travel bespoke can easily be half of what you quote for London, that's all.
 
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