A Futile and Stupid Gesture: The History of the First Trump Presidency & Q-Anon

Lol, come and live here. Its not a third world country, but there are definetely issues. Infrastructure speaking everything is old. doghouse doghouse I dont know if this is your thing, but when was the last time you work in major infrastructure project in your side of town?

As we speak.
 
The stuff Trump said in his campaign.

Illegal immigration especially, go a couple of miles from where I live and you're either in El Salvador or Yemen. This country has it's own culture, and nobody comes here to assimilate anymore. They live in their enclaves, watch TV in their language, and send money back to their countries. What value is there for American citizens having these self-segregated communities? Not much if you ask me.

And the leftists don't care about it because these illegals turn into democrat voters. And labeling people that care about the culture racist.

Illegal immigrants can't vote, no? Legal immigrants can't either. Maybe make it easier to immigrate legally, pick the best and allow them to switch jobs freely, instead of the current corporate indentured servitude?

The US has a pretty low population density. I'm sure your forefathers, the Germans, Irish, Italians etc all lived together as well before spreading out. It usually takes a few generations.
 
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Illegal immigrants can't vote, no? Legal immigrants can't either. Maybe make it easier to immigrate legally, pick the best and allow them to switch jobs freely, instead of the current corporate indentured servitude?

The US has a pretty low population density. I'm sure your forefathers, the Germans, Irish, Italians etc all lived together as well before spreading out. It usually takes a few generations.

I guess I have to explain this. The leftists are siding with illegals. Their bet is that eventually these people will get status, and will vote for them once they become citizens. In addition, we have this bizarre system that says if you're born here you are a citizen. So illegals are not exactly shy about birthing kids they can't afford, and lo and behold, a population of brown skinned young democrats ready to fight for the right to piss in a bathroom of their choosing.

Why should we make it easier to emigrate legally? We don't need more uber drivers. And we have plenty of leftists fucking things up already.

There is a massive difference between immigration in the past and now. In the past you were forced to integrate into a society. Today you can basically live in your old country by proxy thru technology. The net effect is a splintered society full of everyone elses social problems.

Have you seen the traffic in American cities? Population density my ass.
 
I guess I have to explain this. The leftists are siding with illegals. Their bet is that eventually these people will get status, and will vote for them once they become citizens. In addition, we have this bizarre system that says if you're born here you are a citizen. So illegals are not exactly shy about birthing kids they can't afford, and lo and behold, a population of brown skinned young democrats ready to fight for the right to piss in a bathroom of their choosing.

Why should we make it easier to emigrate legally? We don't need more uber drivers. And we have plenty of leftists fucking things up already.

There is a massive difference between immigration in the past and now. In the past you were forced to integrate into a society. Today you can basically live in your old country by proxy thru technology. The net effect is a splintered society full of everyone elses social problems.

Have you seen the traffic in American cities? Population density my ass.

I said choosing the best, no? That doesn't include uber drivers. Anyways, if you make something completely illegal it's tough for the government to control it. Look at the war on drugs. Currently, it's nearly impossible to immigrate legally, so a lot of folks do it illegally. Better to legalise and control than keep the current situation.

Maybe if you invest in infrastructure and public transportation instead of bombs you wouldn't have such bad traffic.

Also, you seem overly obsessed on bathroom usage and all that. Which bathroom people use doesn't really affect your life, now does it? Any hidden issues concerning closets there?
 
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The degree with which immigrants are able to assimilate isn't much different than it was twenty years ago. Enclaves aren't meaningfully less insular than they were in the past, though if there has been more immigration, there are probably more enclaves.

It's always been the children who are primarily those doing the assimilation. Asians don't assimilate much differently than other immigrants, but their Asian-American children assimilate very well, adopt a blend of both cultures, and are by all accounts the American master race these days.
 
I said choosing the best, no? That doesn't include uber drivers. Anyways, of you make something completely illegal it's tough for the government to control it. Look at the war on drugs. Currently, it's nearly impossible to immigrate legally, so a lot of folks do it illegally. Better to legalise and control then the current situation.

Maybe if you invest in infrastructure and public transport instead of bombs you wouldn't have such bad traffic.

Also, you seem overly obsessed on bathroom usage and all that. Which bathroom people use doesn't really affect your life, now does it? Any hidden issues concerning closets there?

Because, as we have already discussed at length, there isn't much "best" out there. That's a fantasy. You're talking about a handful of people. A large number of college degrees are faked, and the system is being gamed by outsourcing firms.

H1-B was supposed to be the program you're describing. See how when we try to have something nice, everyone comes in to try and fuck it up? And we want to import this shit?

Look, the rest of the world has a long way to go to catch up with a very small number of countries that are civilized, shut the door a while and let that happen. Let their "best" build their own country so everyone stops trying to flee.

Your premise is that because it's hard to get into the US legally, you are somehow now entitled to come here illegally? That's pretty poor ethics. If we don't want you here, it's our right to say no. My smell test on this stuff is look at your own home. Would you accept someone coming to your door and barging in and eating your Doritos even though you said no?

Public transport? Come on man. I'll pass on sitting next to strangers in tunnels.
 
The degree with which immigrants are able to assimilate isn't much different than it was twenty years ago. Enclaves aren't meaningfully less insular than they were in the past, though if there has been more immigration, there are probably more enclaves.

It's always been the children who are primarily those doing the assimilation. Asians don't assimilate much differently than other immigrants, but their Asian-American children assimilate very well, adopt a blend of both cultures, and are by all accounts the American master race these days.

Arab areas in Paris would disagree. They are 2 or 3 generations deep and it ain't happening. Muslims don't integrate anywhere easily.
 
Because, as we have already discussed at length, there isn't much "best" out there. That's a fantasy. You're talking about a handful of people. A large number of college degrees are faked, and the system is being gamed by outsourcing firms.

H1-B was supposed to be the program you're describing. See how when we try to have something nice, everyone comes in to try and fuck it up? And we want to import this shit?

Look, the rest of the world has a long way to go to catch up with a very small number of countries that are civilized, shut the door a while and let that happen. Let their "best" build their own country so everyone stops trying to flee.

Your premise is that because it's hard to get into the US legally, you are somehow now entitled to come here illegally? That's pretty poor ethics. If we don't want you here, it's our right to say no. My smell test on this stuff is look at your own home. Would you accept someone coming to your door and barging in and eating your Doritos even though you said no?

Public transport? Come on man. I'll pass on sitting next to strangers in tunnels.

Lol, handful of people? A large part of your innovation comes from immigrants. I agree H1B is being abused, but that's because the standards haven't been updated since the 1980s. Lazy governing. Either ban consultants or put the visas up for auctioning and don't tie someone's immigration status to a specific employer, let the market work it out.

I never said entitled, that's you projecting. I said people are going to do it anyways, better to control it. High skilled immigrants don't eat your Doritos, they create more Doritos, so much so that everyone has a little extra Doritos to eat. It's not a zero-sum game, there isn't a set supply of Doritos. Now isn't that nice?

Also, Doritos suck. Bugles is where it's at.
 
The degree with which immigrants are able to assimilate isn't much different than it was twenty years ago. Enclaves aren't meaningfully less insular than they were in the past, though if there has been more immigration, there are probably more enclaves.

It's always been the children who are primarily those doing the assimilation. Asians don't assimilate much differently than other immigrants, but their Asian-American children assimilate very well, adopt a blend of both cultures, and are by all accounts the American master race these days.

Bingo. But you can stretch back 150 years and it's still the same.
 
Lol, handful of people? A large part of your innovation comes from immigrants. I agree H1B is being abused, but that's because the standards haven't been updated since the 1980s. Lazy governing. Either ban consultants or put the visas up for auctioning, let the market work it out.

I never said entitled, that's you projecting. I said people are going to do it anyways, better to control it. High skilled immigrants don't eat your Doritos, they create more Doritos, so much that everyone has a little extra Doritos to eat. It's not a zero-sum game, there isn't a set supply of jobs. Now isn't that nice?

Your premise is fundamentally wrong. It's not lazy governing, its lobbyists from companies like facebook that keep the system exactly like it is intentionally. In the process fucking over talented American IT professionals, or you might say immigrants eating our Doritos. The H1-Bs of 20 years ago were talented, now all we get is fake degree dregs earning 60k a year, aka uber drivers.

You're trying to usurp my argument. People are going to immigrate anyway because they "feel" entitled to come. What are you if not entitled when you believe you can just stroll into someone else's country without legal standing and just pitch a tent?
 
Your premise is fundamentally wrong. It's not lazy governing, its lobbyists from companies like facebook that keep the system exactly like it is intentionally. In the process fucking over talented American IT professionals, or you might say immigrants eating our Doritos. The H1-Bs of 20 years ago were talented, now all we get is fake degree dregs earning 60k a year, aka uber drivers.

You're trying to usurp my argument. People are going to immigrate anyway because they "feel" entitled to come. What are you if not entitled when you believe you can just stroll into someone else's country without legal standing and just pitch a tent?

False, Facebook is against the current system. It's the Indian consulting companies that like the lottery.
 
Look, the rest of the world has a long way to go to catch up with a very small number of countries that are civilized, shut the door a while and let that happen. Let their "best" build their own country so everyone stops trying to flee.

I'm sure in your heart of hearts you believe this.

I've been meaning to start an "America is a Sewer" thread, but I just don't have the time to keep it up.
 
Arab areas in Paris would disagree. They are 2 or 3 generations deep and it ain't happening. Muslims don't integrate anywhere easily.
A British parallel, Pajama-clad older Muslims were happy to get a low paid job in a mill in Blackburn or Burnley. They did not mix, but the indigenous white Brits were not bothered as long as they did not cause trouble or move next door to them. The next generation felt entitled and thought they were hard done by. They did cause trouble and adopted a confrontational religious ideology.
 
False, Facebook is against the current system. It's the Indian consulting companies that like the lottery.

False. Not so great with fact, this one.

http://www.visaplace.com/blog-immig...book-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-h1b-work-visas-year/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...0a4_story.html?hpid=z2&utm_term=.0b90ab2815e0

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000033563

Indian consulting companies are who everyone uses for cheap replacement US citizen labor.
 

You're wrong. Indians consultancies pay close to the minimum salary. Facebook median salary for H1B is significantly higher. Hence, an auction system instead of a random allocation would favour Facebook.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ed-to-benefit-big-u-s-tech-punish-outsourcers

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-h1b-tech/
 
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You're wrong. Indians consultancies pay close to the minimum salary. Facebook median salary for H1B is significantly higher. Hence, an auction system instead of a random allocation would favour Facebook.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ed-to-benefit-big-u-s-tech-punish-outsourcers

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-h1b-tech/

Monkeyface Monkeyface stop trying to abuse the HB1 system to sneak into America. You are an intelligent man but you are not the best and the brightest. You cannot write code and you are not going to invent the next iteration of Bugles. America does not need financial sector people, they need people who will build American robots so that the USA will no longer have to rely on foreign automation to put Americans out of work.

No emmigrate to Toronto. Fwiffo can get you a top top job in reinsurance. Fwiffo and Monk's Great Adventure.
 
Monkeyface Monkeyface stop trying to abuse the HB1 system to sneak into America. You are an intelligent man but you are not the best and the brightest. You cannot write code and you are not going to invent the next iteration of Bugles. America does not need financial sector people, they need people who will build American robots so that the USA will no longer have to rely on foreign automation to put Americans out of work.

No emmigrate to Toronto. Fwiffo can get you a top top job in reinsurance. Fwiffo and Monk's Great Adventure.

Will I have to take out platonic lady friends to expensive dinners like Fwiffo ?
 
People who actually think that liberals or leftists hate America are as stone fuck retarded as those who think that if someone voted for Trump they must be racist.
 
You're wrong. Indians consultancies pay close to the minimum salary. Facebook median salary for H1B is significantly higher. Hence, an auction system instead of a random allocation would favour Facebook.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ed-to-benefit-big-u-s-tech-punish-outsourcers

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-h1b-tech/
that was a bloomberg puff piece. this is a good article and the comments are even better. you can find hundreds more articles and millions of comments that are just the same:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015...cheap-labor-tech-behind-h1-b-visa-scenes.html

Wolf Richter: In Search of Cheap Labor in Tech – Behind the H1-B Visa Scenes
Posted on February 6, 2015 by Yves Smith


Yves here. This post focuses on how the procedures in the H1-B visa process meant to protect workers from unfair competition from foreign workers and contractors are a joke. And this is one of the reasons that the calls by disconnected Beltway pundits and technocrats for American students to get more technically oriented education, most of all in STEM fields, is hopelessly misguided. Companies are more and more refusing to supply much if anything in the way of entry-level jobs, sending yeoman’s work in former white collar professions, including accounting and the law, to outsources in India. And the fix of having more specialized training is just as unrealistic. The more specialized the training, the more at risk you are that those skills will prove to be useless. That is why so many mid-career professionals fall far when they lose their perch, since if they can’t use the narrow expertise that they’ve accumulated, they have to fall back on their generalist skills, which means low-level jobs like call center work, retail, or if they are lucky, a position like an office manager in a small business.

By Wolf Richter, a San Francisco based executive, entrepreneur, start up specialist, and author, with extensive international work experience. Originally published at Wolf Street

In April, 2014, it emerged that Southern California Edison, a utility with about 14,000 employees at the time, was planning another round of layoffs. Most of them would be in its Information Technology Department, which had 1,800 employees and 1,500 contract workers. SCE admitted to the plan but told the LA Times that it hadn’t finalized the number. State Senator Alex Padilla then told the paper that as many as 500 employees and 500 contractors would be let go.

Laying off workers and outsourcing some functions was part of its “ongoing efforts to act as cost effectively and prudently as possible in operations for its customers.” These efforts at the IT department would “enable an increase in quality, speed and capabilities while lowering costs,” SCE explained. “By better leveraging the knowledge, skills and expertise of industry vendors, SCE will adopt a proven business strategy commonly and successfully used by other top U.S. companies.”

Namely laying off American employees and bringing in cheaper H1-B visa holders from India.

IT workers in the process of getting axed often sign severance agreements that contain non-disparagement and confidentiality clauses that bar them from discussing the situation in public. Plus there are fears that if they discussed the situation publicly, they might be blacklisted and not find another job. But now some of these affected SCE employees have talked to Computerworld.

SCE confirmed having hired Infosys, in Bangalore, and Tata Consultancy Services in Mumbai, two of the largest users of H-1B visas, to provide the H1-B workers.

“They are bringing in people with a couple of years’ experience to replace us, and then we have to train them,” one longtime IT worker told Computerworld. “It’s demoralizing, and in a way I kind of felt betrayed by the company.”

The H-1B program “was supposed to be for projects and jobs that American workers could not fill,” another worker said. “But we’re doing our job. It’s not like they are bringing in these guys for new positions that nobody can fill,” he said. “Not one of these jobs being filled by India was a job that an Edison employee wasn’t already performing.”

Some of the affected SCE employees have been training their replacements either at the office when the Indian workers are already here or via Web sessions with people in India. And these Indian tech workers didn’t have the skill levels of the American people they’d be replacing, the sources told Computerworld.

Ron Hira, a public policy professor at Howard University, and a researcher on offshore outsourcing, called it “one more case, in a long line of them, of injustice where American workers are being replaced by H-1Bs”:

Adding to the injustice, American workers are being forced to do “knowledge transfer,” an ugly euphemism for being forced to train their foreign replacements. Americans should be outraged that most of our politicians have sat idly by while outsourcing firms have hijacked the guest worker programs.

The majority of the H-1B program is now being used to replace Americans and facilitate the offshoring of high wage jobs.”

On the surface, it shouldn’t be this way. To obtain H-1B approval from the Department of Labor, the company has to “attest” to a whole laundry list of things (PDF), including: “Working Conditions: The employer attests that H-1B, H-1B1 or E-3 foreign workers in the named occupation will not adversely affect the working conditions of workers similarly employed.”

“The SCE case is clearly one where the hiring of the H-1B is adversely affecting the wages and working conditions of American workers,” Hira said. “There isn’t a clearer cut case of adverse impacts – the American worker is losing his job to an H-1B.”

There are other issues as well, Computerworld notes: H1-B workers are mostly “under 35 years of age, according to government data, and the SCE workers interviewed said many older workers were being laid off.”

This has been happening in all kinds of tech companies and IT departments, and it has been happening for years, though it has largely been kept quiet by restrictive severance agreements. Another element in the great mystery of why wages in the US have been losing ground.

What has sort of kept a lid on it is the limited number of H1-B visas given out each year, though companies have been clamoring for more. Just how much corporate demand is there?

US Citizenship and Immigration Services opened the lottery for H1-B visas for fiscal year 2015 on April 1, 2014. On April 7, it reported that it had already reached the statutory cap of 65,000 visa petitions for the general category and 20,000 under the advanced degree exemption. But tech companies have been lobbying in Washington to get this raised. Because the Holy Grail in business is cheaper labor. And bringing in cheaper labor puts downward pressure on wages for everyone else.
 
that was a bloomberg puff piece. this is a good article and the comments are even better. you can find hundreds more articles and millions of comments that are just the same:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015...cheap-labor-tech-behind-h1-b-visa-scenes.html

Wolf Richter: In Search of Cheap Labor in Tech – Behind the H1-B Visa Scenes
Posted on February 6, 2015 by Yves Smith


Yves here. This post focuses on how the procedures in the H1-B visa process meant to protect workers from unfair competition from foreign workers and contractors are a joke. And this is one of the reasons that the calls by disconnected Beltway pundits and technocrats for American students to get more technically oriented education, most of all in STEM fields, is hopelessly misguided. Companies are more and more refusing to supply much if anything in the way of entry-level jobs, sending yeoman’s work in former white collar professions, including accounting and the law, to outsources in India. And the fix of having more specialized training is just as unrealistic. The more specialized the training, the more at risk you are that those skills will prove to be useless. That is why so many mid-career professionals fall far when they lose their perch, since if they can’t use the narrow expertise that they’ve accumulated, they have to fall back on their generalist skills, which means low-level jobs like call center work, retail, or if they are lucky, a position like an office manager in a small business.

By Wolf Richter, a San Francisco based executive, entrepreneur, start up specialist, and author, with extensive international work experience. Originally published at Wolf Street

In April, 2014, it emerged that Southern California Edison, a utility with about 14,000 employees at the time, was planning another round of layoffs. Most of them would be in its Information Technology Department, which had 1,800 employees and 1,500 contract workers. SCE admitted to the plan but told the LA Times that it hadn’t finalized the number. State Senator Alex Padilla then told the paper that as many as 500 employees and 500 contractors would be let go.

Laying off workers and outsourcing some functions was part of its “ongoing efforts to act as cost effectively and prudently as possible in operations for its customers.” These efforts at the IT department would “enable an increase in quality, speed and capabilities while lowering costs,” SCE explained. “By better leveraging the knowledge, skills and expertise of industry vendors, SCE will adopt a proven business strategy commonly and successfully used by other top U.S. companies.”

Namely laying off American employees and bringing in cheaper H1-B visa holders from India.

IT workers in the process of getting axed often sign severance agreements that contain non-disparagement and confidentiality clauses that bar them from discussing the situation in public. Plus there are fears that if they discussed the situation publicly, they might be blacklisted and not find another job. But now some of these affected SCE employees have talked to Computerworld.

SCE confirmed having hired Infosys, in Bangalore, and Tata Consultancy Services in Mumbai, two of the largest users of H-1B visas, to provide the H1-B workers.

“They are bringing in people with a couple of years’ experience to replace us, and then we have to train them,” one longtime IT worker told Computerworld. “It’s demoralizing, and in a way I kind of felt betrayed by the company.”

The H-1B program “was supposed to be for projects and jobs that American workers could not fill,” another worker said. “But we’re doing our job. It’s not like they are bringing in these guys for new positions that nobody can fill,” he said. “Not one of these jobs being filled by India was a job that an Edison employee wasn’t already performing.”

Some of the affected SCE employees have been training their replacements either at the office when the Indian workers are already here or via Web sessions with people in India. And these Indian tech workers didn’t have the skill levels of the American people they’d be replacing, the sources told Computerworld.

Ron Hira, a public policy professor at Howard University, and a researcher on offshore outsourcing, called it “one more case, in a long line of them, of injustice where American workers are being replaced by H-1Bs”:

Adding to the injustice, American workers are being forced to do “knowledge transfer,” an ugly euphemism for being forced to train their foreign replacements. Americans should be outraged that most of our politicians have sat idly by while outsourcing firms have hijacked the guest worker programs.

The majority of the H-1B program is now being used to replace Americans and facilitate the offshoring of high wage jobs.”

On the surface, it shouldn’t be this way. To obtain H-1B approval from the Department of Labor, the company has to “attest” to a whole laundry list of things (PDF), including: “Working Conditions: The employer attests that H-1B, H-1B1 or E-3 foreign workers in the named occupation will not adversely affect the working conditions of workers similarly employed.”

“The SCE case is clearly one where the hiring of the H-1B is adversely affecting the wages and working conditions of American workers,” Hira said. “There isn’t a clearer cut case of adverse impacts – the American worker is losing his job to an H-1B.”

There are other issues as well, Computerworld notes: H1-B workers are mostly “under 35 years of age, according to government data, and the SCE workers interviewed said many older workers were being laid off.”

This has been happening in all kinds of tech companies and IT departments, and it has been happening for years, though it has largely been kept quiet by restrictive severance agreements. Another element in the great mystery of why wages in the US have been losing ground.

What has sort of kept a lid on it is the limited number of H1-B visas given out each year, though companies have been clamoring for more. Just how much corporate demand is there?

US Citizenship and Immigration Services opened the lottery for H1-B visas for fiscal year 2015 on April 1, 2014. On April 7, it reported that it had already reached the statutory cap of 65,000 visa petitions for the general category and 20,000 under the advanced degree exemption. But tech companies have been lobbying in Washington to get this raised. Because the Holy Grail in business is cheaper labor. And bringing in cheaper labor puts downward pressure on wages for everyone else.

Bloomberg a puff piece? It uses INFOGRAPHICS, Trump's favourite way of summarising reports!
 
People who actually think that liberals or leftists hate America are as stone fuck retarded as those who think that if someone voted for Trump they must be racist.

Unfortunately there are great quantities of stone fuck retarded people.
 
Bloomberg a puff piece? It uses INFOGRAPHICS, Trump's favourite way of summarising reports!
they were two different articles. the first with the silicon valley flack was. the info graphic does not argue for or against the program. in fact you could read it as being against the current system if you so choose.
 
they were two different articles. the first with the silicon valley flack was. the info graphic does not argue for or against the program. in fact you could read it as being against the current system if you so choose.

Yes, the first article highlights how there's no 'one sillicon valley', different companies use visas differently. The INFOGRAPHIC was to indeed highlight how stupid the current system is! B- for your reading comprehension.
 
Yes, the first article highlights how there's no 'one sillicon valley', different companies use visas differently. The INFOGRAPHIC was to indeed highlight how stupid the current system is! B- for your reading comprehension.
stupid for whom? immigrants, companies, or american workers? that was OP's effective point.
 
You're wrong. Indians consultancies pay close to the minimum salary. Facebook median salary for H1B is significantly higher. Hence, an auction system instead of a random allocation would favour Facebook.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ed-to-benefit-big-u-s-tech-punish-outsourcers

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-h1b-tech/


I'm not wrong. Did you not read the articles I sent? Zuckerborg wrote that article, he supports the program. You said Facebook didn't.

Facebook hires a few H1-B people direct, but the vast majority of their spend is written into the books as consulting, whereby they use these consultancies to bring in contract labor.
 
stupid for whom? immigrants, companies, or american workers? that was OP's effective point.

The lottery system is stupid for high-skilled immigrants, American workers and most genuine companies (not outsourcers).

Outsourcers don't really care who they hire, so they apply for 10x as many visas as they need. The fees for unselected petitions are returned, so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Genuine companies want a specific high-skilled worker, who they've usually hired after 20+ interviews and tests, so they only apply for as many visas as they need. Lottery gets conducted, and because the outsourcers have so many more applications, they get a disproportionate amount of visas allocated. Hence, genuine companies can't hire who they want, while outsourcers get their hiring needs met.

Also, the complexity of the current programme means large companies are heavily favoured. It's nearly impossible for small startups or family owned businesses to sponsor someone for a visa.

Please don't think you know more than I do. I've spent the past 6 months researching this and have been dealing with it first hand. I've had many phone calls with people in charge of hiring for various companies on the west coast. It's incredibly difficult to get a visa if you're after a genuine job and want a decent salary. All you've done is read some blog posts without INFOGRAPHICS.

Anyways, we're talking about 85k visas for a country of 320mm people. It's a drop in the bucket.
 
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There is no shortage of qualified IT people. Most computer science graduates never actually work in the field because there are too many H1-B visa holders in the US. Salaries have been stagnant for well over a decade, and it's because this glut of foreigners at lower wages.

This system was designed to fill a need where there weren't enough American workers, that need no longer exists for IT. It's been corrupted by corporations that want cheap labor.
 

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