A personal note from Silvano Lattanzi

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Lattanzi could be the only shoemaker who doesn't need to compromise because he has the jet setting clientele who will pay whatever his asking price is.

No compromises
1). He buries some of his shoes in bog pits where his clients come by on occasions to see if their shoes have enough of a natural patina.
2). He will completely redo a shoe if it is not perfect.
3). Every shoe model he has ever made has a copy made of it and put in Mr Lattanzi's shoe museum. He has 4,000 pairs in his museum.
4). Much of the Lattanzi leather is said to be unrivalled, even by Hermes' these days.

In 1991 Mr Lattanzi bought all of the luxury and vintage leather from Pebody in England. He has a stock of vintage leather that is said to be better than any maker has access to in the world these days. My shoemaker worked with some of the best makers in England and Italy, and he travelled the world checking out the top bespoke shoemakers; he told me that no-one is using a quality of leather like Lattanzi does. I think l also recall Lattanzi saying that the leather used for shoemaking these days is not suitable for making quality shoes, and it explains why he bought the entire leather supply from the merchant Pebody many years ago.

When it comes to alligator polo boots Mr Lattanzi will search the world for high quality skins that can only be gotten from twin alligators/crocs. One skin per boot, and the only way they can match scale patterns is for the reptiles to be twins. No compromises! It might cost well over 75,000 GBP for a pair, but Mr Lattanzi believes in only the best with NO COMPROMISES.

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The 75,000 GBP alligator polo boots using the skins of twin alligators to get a perfect scale match.
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Silvano Lattanzi's buried shoes.
Truly great patinas, and his clients get it. Some of my favourite Lattanzi's are the buried shoes. Works of art. No-one does what Mr Lattanzi does. My favourite shoemaker by far.

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Look at that great colour tan that Lattanzi gets. Apparently he gets this unique colour because of the vintage leather he uses. Lattanzi's eye popping browns are incredible in real life. When l got my first Lattanzi shoe and saw the eye popping vintage tan, it was the most amazing colour and shoe l had ever seen. That's why he is my favourite, his styles and colours are beyond amazing.
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His clients come by and ask to see their shoes in the pit bog to check how the antiquing is progressing.
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Beauty in a way that only Mr Lattanzi can do it.
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The story of the buries shoes:


Why other shoemakers are making compromises due to time restraints, Mr Lattanzi is pushing the limits of shoemaking and making dreams come true.
No-one has the genius artistic mind that Lattanzi does IMO. His shoes are the best l have ever seen, and l do believe they are the best in the world bar none (the leather quality).

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Having said that they are the best, they still use staples in parts of the heel like robertito robertito pointed out. The shoes Robertito posted looked a mess, but maybe they had been repaired by other makers before hand. The Lattanzi's l have seen look clean.
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Very interesting...one of those things where I doubt I'll ever like but still appreciate their existence.
 

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It is impossible to describe how good the styles of Lattanzi shoes are. You either get it or you don't. For me personally, l completely get it, and I think I understand Mr Lattanzi's mindset. He shows what is truly possible in shoemaking. He leads the way.

You know why l love Lattanzi far more than any other shoemaker in the world? It is because he makes shoes that look `old world'. No crazy modern fake Berluti patina, but instead a real looking patina.

For example, look at the green antiquing on these loafers. It actually looks like vintage antiquing and something from many years ago.
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Old antiquing on the toe. None of this flashy modern antiquing.
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Now for the best stuff. Real old world style shoos. No-one does anything remotely like this. They are like something from the past when luxury was real luxury. These are not like the `nouveau riche' shoes you see from bespoke makers these days. This is why l say Lattanzi is a genius.
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pics from here:

Of course Lattanzi caters to everyone. He also does real plonkers and stinkers, and he also does nouveau riche. He also does perhaps the most tasteless shoes ever made like these below, but he understands that some eccentrics probably love them:

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Not sure if these are Lattanzi (might not be because they don't have the hand written sock)
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It is impossible to describe how good the styles of Lattanzi shoes are. You either get it or you don't. For me personally, l completely get it, and I think I understand Mr Lattanzi's mindset. He shows what is truly possible in shoemaking. He leads the way.

You know why l love Lattanzi far more than any other shoemaker in the world? It is because he makes shoes that look `old world'. No crazy modern fake Berluti patina, but instead a real looking patina.

For example, look at the green antiquing on these loafers. It actually looks like vintage antiquing and something from many years ago.
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Old antiquing on the toe. None of this flashy modern antiquing.
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Now for the best stuff. Real old world style shoos. No-one does anything remotely like this. They are like something from the past when luxury was real luxury. These are not like the `nouveau riche' shoes you see from bespoke makers these days. This is why l say Lattanzi is a genius.
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pics from here:

Of course Lattanzi caters to everyone. He also does real plonkers and stinkers, and he also does nouveau riche. He also does perhaps the most tasteless shoes ever made like these below, but he understands that some eccentrics probably love them:

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Not sure if these are Lattanzi (might not be because they don't have the hand written sock)
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Sounds like what some crazy (in an endearing way) Japanese enthusiasts would do.

Btw, what's the point of using the best leather if the shoes are gonna be marinated? I would've thought you'd want to show the leather's raw form if it's nice, the leather's quality would be compromised or hidden after all these processes.

I know close to nothing about leathers and shoes. But the shoes have a somewhat wooden quality to it - almost look like they're carved out of something.
 

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Sounds like what some crazy (in an endearing way) Japanese enthusiasts would do.

yep

Btw, what's the point of using the best leather if the shoes are gonna be marinated? I would've thought you'd want to show the leather's raw form if it's nice, the leather's quality would be compromised or hidden after all these processes.

High quality leather shows, even when it is dyed black. It has a tight grain which gives it a unique look, feel and shine. Lattanzi is unique in that it only uses one cut per hide.

Mr Lattanzi says:
"When the leather used is of high quality......even the colors like black and the dark brown assume......a shininess and light and a transparency worthy of the most refined porcelain"

I know close to nothing about leathers and shoes. But the shoes have a somewhat wooden quality to it - almost look like they're carved out of something.
I like that comment, they do. I saw a pair last night that looked like wood, an amazing pair.

Other Lattanzi l like:

beautiful red antique (not grain corrected). Amazing how he did it. To me that is real old school stuff, like going back in time.
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One of my favourite styles, an American plain toe derby in shell. A $12,000 shoo roughly.
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One of these selling on ebay currently.
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Nice antiquing examples
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Gotta love these. My kind of style. Look at that antiquing and colours. Real Lattanzi.
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My pair. A stunning pair in real life. The colouring and antique is the best l own.
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Check out this rascal. Have yopu ever seen anything as beautiful. This is a shoe l would love to own. Look at that antiquing and colour scheme. Very classic Lattanzi.
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Another great pair of antiqued red. Very old school classic once again. It is like you would visit an aristocrat castle and see these shoes inside.
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Posting these pictures trying to show why these shoes are so good. The antiquing is so natural on these pairs, and they exude class and wealth in a good way. They look like grand old shoos. They are not shoos for showoffs and light weights, they are shoos for big daddies who mean business.
 

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I think a lot of his stories are just mythmaking and marketing - good on him - its fair game.

But the rally interesting bit is the burying the shoes in mud and water - expensive shoes - new.

Makes you giggle about all those young blokes worrying about getting their new shoes a bit wet in the rain.
 

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It seems that Lattanzi manufactures shoes in the same way that Weston does. In some shoes he doesn't carve the holdfast but he raises one from the actual insole, that reinforces later with a piece of cloth around the whole area. I think that this the way the system transitioned from hand welt to goodyear welting. Nowadays there is no wall built, of full piece of cloth attach and only the cloth rib stapled on the sole.,

Lattanzi hand stitches the welt here.


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It seems that Lattanzi manufactures shoes in the same way that Weston does. In some shoes he doesn't carve the holdfast but he raises one from the actual insole, that reinforces later with a piece of cloth around the whole area. I think that this the way the system transitioned from hand welt to goodyear welting. Nowadays there is no wall built, of full piece of cloth attach and only the cloth rib stapled on the sole.,

Lattanzi hand stitches the welt here.


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I put it to you that the insole you post here is not Lattanzi's original insole. None of the other Lattanzi insoles have that canvass on it, nor are his insoles cut and flipped up in the Weston or vintage Australian method. Being a shell cordovan shoe, l put it to you that the insole has been replaced with cheap leather, and maybe uses the flip up method of feather construction, and it looks like the cordwainer may have reinforced the insole/feather with canvass (a method suggested in shoemaking text books). Lattanzi does not do the shoddy looking work that you post here, that shoddy looking insole has been made by somebody else. That is just my intuition and understanding.

Here is some Lattanzi art. To me this is the best of Lattanzi. No-one does this type of work. If l went to Italy, these are the type of shoes i'd be ordering, ones dipped in the mud and given a glorious antiquing with a norvegse and bentivegna construction.

Loving the antiquing on that derby 2nd from left. Wish l owned that. WOW!!!
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Have always loved that monk. A dream shoe.
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Look at that amazing brogue. Now THAT is a shoo!!! Same goes with the boot. Forget LObb and Berluti, just give me that brogue in that colour and antiquing and i'd be a happy guy for life. Best shoo l have ever seen BY FAR!!!!
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I am only a messenger. The guy that posted the pictures is saying that they are original Lattanzi. I don't have any reasons to believe they are not.

Out of the 3 of us he is the only one that supposedly has repaired a lattanzi shoe and has seen the guts of the shoes? I don't know why you trust Lattanzi so much.

He is the same one that sent me the other lattanzi pics. To be honest I find curious that he has repaired at least 2 lattanzis being such rare shoe

I will ask him again is they are the originals insoles. I am sure he can determine that. I have to say that in his original post he mentioned tha the quality of the handwelting was good. So I believe that the insoles were originals? (Unless the welt has been stitched twice)??
 

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I am only a messenger. The guy that posted the pictures is saying that they are original Lattanzi. I don't have any reasons to believe they are not.

Out of the 3 of us he is the only one that supposedly has repaired a lattanzi shoe and has seen the guts of the shoes? I don't know why you trust Lattanzi so much.

He is the same one that sent me the other lattanzi pics. To be honest I find curious that he has repaired at least 2 lattanzis being such rare shoe

I will ask him again is they are the originals insoles. I am sure he can determine that. I have to say that in his original post he mentioned tha the quality of the handwelting was good. So I believe that the insoles were originals? (Unless the welt has been stitched twice)??

Can you tell him that none of the Lattanzi shoes I have seen made have that canvass on the insole, nor does the insole work look as shoddy as the pairs he repaired (look at that crooked feather on the insole, just awful).

Can you ask him if it's possible that the insole was made by some shoe repair person, since it doesn't resemble the work of Lattanzi IMO.

My suspicions = someone worn a hole through the outsole and insole of his Lattanzi shoe. A cobbler or shoemaker made a new insole using poor quality materials and rough craftsmanship and fixed it. YOUR guy is just pulling apart a repair job done by the previous repair guy.

robertito robertito who is this bloke who took apart that Lattanzi? Is he a cobbler or shoemaker? What is his name?
 

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Lattanzi could be the only shoemaker who doesn't need to compromise because he has the jet setting clientele who will pay whatever his asking price is.

No compromises
1). He buries some of his shoes in bog pits where his clients come by on occasions to see if their shoes have enough of a natural patina.
2). He will completely redo a shoe if it is not perfect.
3). Every shoe model he has ever made has a copy made of it and put in Mr Lattanzi's shoe museum. He has 4,000 pairs in his museum.
4). Much of the Lattanzi leather is said to be unrivalled, even by Hermes' these days.

In 1991 Mr Lattanzi bought all of the luxury and vintage leather from Pebody in England. He has a stock of vintage leather that is said to be better than any maker has access to in the world these days. My shoemaker worked with some of the best makers in England and Italy, and he travelled the world checking out the top bespoke shoemakers; he told me that no-one is using a quality of leather like Lattanzi does. I think l also recall Lattanzi saying that the leather used for shoemaking these days is not suitable for making quality shoes, and it explains why he bought the entire leather supply from the merchant Pebody many years ago.

When it comes to alligator polo boots Mr Lattanzi will search the world for high quality skins that can only be gotten from twin alligators/crocs. One skin per boot, and the only way they can match scale patterns is for the reptiles to be twins. No compromises! It might cost well over 75,000 GBP for a pair, but Mr Lattanzi believes in only the best with NO COMPROMISES.

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The 75,000 GBP alligator polo boots using the skins of twin alligators to get a perfect scale match.
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Silvano Lattanzi's buried shoes.
Truly great patinas, and his clients get it. Some of my favourite Lattanzi's are the buried shoes. Works of art. No-one does what Mr Lattanzi does. My favourite shoemaker by far.

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Look at that great colour tan that Lattanzi gets. Apparently he gets this unique colour because of the vintage leather he uses. Lattanzi's eye popping browns are incredible in real life. When l got my first Lattanzi shoe and saw the eye popping vintage tan, it was the most amazing colour and shoe l had ever seen. That's why he is my favourite, his styles and colours are beyond amazing.
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His clients come by and ask to see their shoes in the pit bog to check how the antiquing is progressing.
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Beauty in a way that only Mr Lattanzi can do it.
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The story of the buries shoes:


Why other shoemakers are making compromises due to time restraints, Mr Lattanzi is pushing the limits of shoemaking and making dreams come true.
No-one has the genius artistic mind that Lattanzi does IMO. His shoes are the best l have ever seen, and l do believe they are the best in the world bar none (the leather quality).

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Having said that they are the best, they still use staples in parts of the heel like robertito robertito pointed out. The shoes Robertito posted looked a mess, but maybe they had been repaired by other makers before hand. The Lattanzi's l have seen look clean.
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Amazing story, Shooey. Thanks for sharing.
 

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I think a lot of his stories are just mythmaking and marketing - good on him - its fair game.

But the rally interesting bit is the burying the shoes in mud and water - expensive shoes - new.

Makes you giggle about all those young blokes worrying about getting their new shoes a bit wet in the rain.
I was on my way to give away to my ironing man a pair of overpolished and museumed-looking Loakes when by chance I read about the burying. I shall now take pics and try and flog them for s pretty penny on EBay.
 

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The best shoe l have ever seen in person, my new pair. Looks much better in person, but l tried to capture its beauty. I call the Lattanzi browns the `Lattanzi woods'.

Check out this beauty. Can't stop looking at it. Everything about it is perfect. Has an antiqued look too (not so good in photo).

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This is what it's all about. The vintage Lattanzi wood look is starting to take effect.

Gonna start adding two face plus lotion and deep rich moisteriser to set an excellent base; then finish off with mustard artists cream, cigar artists cream etc, topped with a wonderful medium brown wax. That will get it looking like old wood in no time. Very exciting.

That's why l get Lattanzi. Perfect last, perfect pattern, perfect construction, and looks better than any shoe in the world.


Lattanzi woods v's my best Edward Green woods

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Edward Green woods
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The Edward Green woods look fantastic in person, but the leather isn't as good as Lattanzi, and it doesn't have the special handmade vintage look like the Lattanzi does. The comparison is not even close.
 
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The best shoe l have ever seen in person, my new pair. Looks much better in person, but l tried to capture its beauty. I call the Lattanzi browns the `Lattanzi woods'.

Check out this beauty. Can't stop looking at it. Everything about it is perfect. Has an antiqued look too (not so good in photo).

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This is what it's all about. The vintage Lattanzi wood look is starting to take effect.

Gonna start adding two face plus lotion and deep rich moisteriser to set an excellent base; then finish off with mustard artists cream, cigar artists cream etc, topped with a wonderful medium brown wax. That will get it looking like old wood in no time. Very exciting.

That's why l get Lattanzi. Perfect last, perfect pattern, perfect construction, and looks better than any shoe in the world.
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Does that broad waist suit your tootsies, Shooey?
 

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Does that broad waist suit your tootsies, Shooey?

The shoe is not broad in the waist, but it looks broad because of the wide welt. I never used to like the wide welt, and it took some getting used to, but now l have come to really embrace the beauty of it and realise it is also a special Lattanzi feature that actually makes the shoe look better. The wide welt is different to the average Allen Edmonds and Vass shoe which uses ugly wide wheeling marks; instead the Lattanzi uses a fine wheeling with high spi stitching on many of the soles which sets it apart. Lattanzi's wide welt is done artistically where-as with other makers like Vass and AE that is not so. It is a feature which takes time to appreciate. When l got my first pair of Lattanzi l was thinking about getting a shoemaker to trim the welt :o ...glad l never did, that would have ruined the look completely. You really need to own a pair to understand how thew wide welt works with the Lattanzi character, nothing else compares. As l have said, Lattanzi is a genius.....he uses the last combined with pattern with wide welt with vintage antiqued leather to create a masterpiece that is unique and natural looking.

I showed a shoe bloke my new Lattanzi and he was stunned. It looks amazing in person. Every time l look at it l just think WOW. My bespoke Cleverley is beautiful (made by the top Cleverley maker from Japan....completely perfect), but every Lattanzi l own has total WOW factor. They are the type of shoos you can't stop looking at.

Another of Iammat's Lattanzi.
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Former Ask Andy members bespoke Lattanzi. Those on the bottom of picture are norvegese shell cordovans, they cost a fortune these days. Love the black shell 3 eyelet model, stunning Lattanzi greatness. Every one of his shoes are for the HUGE Big daddies. Lucky guy.
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The shoe is not broad in the waist, but it looks broad because of the wide welt. I never used to like the wide welt, and it took some getting used to, but now l have come to really embrace the beauty of it and realise it is also a special Lattanzi feature that actually makes the shoe look better. The wide welt is different to the average Allen Edmonds and Vass shoe which uses ugly wide wheeling marks; instead the Lattanzi uses a fine wheeling with high spi stitching on many of the soles which sets it apart. Lattanzi's wide welt is done artistically where-as with other makers like Vass and AE that is not so. It is a feature which takes time to appreciate. When l got my first pair of Lattanzi l was thinking about getting a shoemaker to trim the welt :o ...glad l never did, that would have ruined the look completely. You really need to own a pair to understand how thew wide welt works with the Lattanzi character, nothing else compares. As l have said, Lattanzi is a genius.....he uses the last combined with pattern with wide welt with vintage antiqued leather to create a masterpiece that is unique and natural looking.

I showed a shoe bloke my new Lattanzi and he was stunned. It looks amazing in person. Every time l look at it l just think WOW. My bespoke Cleverley is beautiful (made by the top Cleverley maker from Japan....completely perfect), but every Lattanzi l own has total WOW factor. They are the type of shoos you can't stop looking at.

Another of Iammat's Lattanzi.
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Former Ask Andy members bespoke Lattanzi. Those on the bottom of picture are norvegese shell cordovans, they cost a fortune these days. Love the black shell 3 eyelet model, stunning Lattanzi greatness. Every one of his shoes are for the HUGE Big daddies. Lucky guy.
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I don't like any of those in the last pic, Shooey. The creasing in all but the top right pair show the last is the wrong one for the wearer.

The pair on the bottom left remind me of an old pair of AE that I bought for $100 in a Winners discount store in Toronto that are airport friendly and are good for long flights.
 

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I don't like any of those in the last pic, Shooey. The creasing in all but the top right pair show the last is the wrong one for the wearer.

you're talking nonsense son. :rolleyes: You can't just make a judgement based on one factor. Gotta take the last into account. Different toe shapes will mean different creasing. Remember, these are Lattanzi bespoke. You think Mr Lattanzi doesn't know what he is doing?

The pair on the bottom left remind me of an old pair of AE that I bought for $100 in a Winners discount store in Toronto that are airport friendly and are good for long flights.
Yep, great looking shoes. One of the nicest looking pairs l have ever seen. Wish l owned them.
 

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you're talking nonsense son. :rolleyes: You can't just make a judgement based on one factor. Gotta take the last into account. Different toe shapes will mean different creasing. Remember, these are Lattanzi bespoke. You think Mr Lattanzi doesn't know what he is doing?


Yep, great looking shoes. One of the nicest looking pairs l have ever seen. Wish l owned them.
I prefer shoes without creases, Shooey. With those that are a suitable shape to match my foot shape there is zero creasing. If they are a shape which differs from my foot shape they will logically and unavoidably crease.

So if those are bespoke the pictures speak for themselves. They were the wrong shape for the wearer.

Obviously shoes with an elongated toe - such as a Teddy Boy winkle picker - can crease from the toe; but that is intentional.

So does Mr. Lattanzi know what he is doing? The piccies speak no lies Shooey. Are you sure he isn't Lumpen in disguise?
 

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robertito robertito I am shocked, truly shocked. I am also shocked that Lattanzi would use fiberboard. I am also surprised that the feather is so narrow, then again some shoesmakers do the same. I wonder why that insole you posted has canvass on it?? Lattanzi also makes his shoes on plastic lasts.

Did the cobbler say anything about Lattanzi using synthetics in the shoes?

I am still waiting for the bespoke shoemakers opinion.

I will tell you a secret. Lattanzi shoes are supposed to be 100% handmade in the construction. Mine are, and many others are, but look!

Lattanzi shoes - soles stitched on by a machine
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I have worked out the mystery. Lattanzi actually sells a lower level machine made shoe these days. These are cheaper with machine stitched soles and pre-made heels. They are nothing compared to the proper Lattanzi handmades.


Lattanzi machine made shoes. Notice the machine stitched soles and machine made heels.
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Look, more machine stitched soles and machine made heels
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Lattanzi for Kiton, machine sewn soles as well.
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Machine stitched soles. Might be a machine built heel as well. Nothing on the proper Lattanzi
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i wrote to the shoemaker but he didnt reply to me. Don't want to chase him. When he goes back to the other forum i will ask him again

Is lattanzi the only manufacturer Kiton has used. Actually there is an outlet close to where I live that has quite a few old Kiton shoes. They are actually well made and well priced as well (around USD 400) but i have never tempted to buy them because the lasts are very 'italian' .they are not even close to any of the ones you have posted.

I will have another look next time I go there.
 

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Is lattanzi the only manufacturer Kiton has used. Actually there is an outlet close to where I live that has quite a few old Kiton shoes.
No, Kiton used to use Antonio Meccariello to make their shoes in the old days (early 2,000's). Again they had machine stitched soles, but they were stunning. Here are some examples of the old Kitons.

Many forum folk are argued they were a waste of money and compared them to Edward Green, but the Kiton were in a different ballpark because they were hand welted, hence being twice the price.
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Other makers have also made for Kiton, and not all were as impressive as Antonio's or Lattanzi's.
They are actually well made and well priced as well (around USD 400) but i have never tempted to buy them because the lasts are very 'italian' .they are not even close to any of the ones you have posted.

I will have another look next time I go there.
Pity you don't have pictures.
 

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i can take a picture next time i go there.

What view do you need? sole/top view/side view?
 
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