Bird Flu & Other Deadly Disease Outbreaks 2025 Edition

Children don’t get their first vaccine dose until after 12 months, and full protection doesn’t kick in until they get their booster, usually when they’re between 4 and 6.
It is 11 months and 15 months here. Why is it 4-6 in the US?
 
With VRBPAC not meeting, everyone is wondering who exactly is going to guide the FDA’s recommendation on the next Flu vaccine. Will RFK Jr pull upon his years a of medical experience and training to make that decision?

Also, do we prefer a dozen threads for all the things about to kill us or is it better to have an omnibus public health thread?
 
Lots of talk, but I haven’t seen any proof. the Mennonites are signing up to get their kids vaccinated now, so I don’t think it would be them.
This read to me more like an anti-vax moms of Facebook type of thing rather than a religious group thing.
 
This is going well

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And this is totally normal

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What do you think accounts for the measles spike? Some kind of mutation in the disease? Coronavirus making all of our immune systems weaker? We’ve had the maniac anti-vaxxers around for decades now, especially the religious variety.
We need around 95% vaccination rates in the community for herd immunity. It has fallen to 92% since the pandemic started. That provides the tinder for the fire to rip through big swathes of unvaccinated people. How much we can contain it now is hotly debated.
 
We need around 95% vaccination rates in the community for herd immunity. It has fallen to 92% since the pandemic started. That provides the tinder for the fire to rip through big swathes of unvaccinated people. How much we can contain it now is hotly debated.
Well good news then

 
didn't we have the herd immunity discussion back in 2020 already?
Yep, but the differences trip up small minds. Measles is largely a one-time deal, whereas covid re-infection is common. So herd immunity is a more viable thing with measles, once you get over 95% vaccination (or past infection) rate. The appeal of the ‘let it rip’ approach can overshadow the dangers of infection (1 in 500 pedi mortality rate in the US in ‘good times’), the safety of the vaccine and the dangers of giving the virus a big pool to play in and strengthen itself.
 
Dropbear Dropbear you still dealing with this from last time or is this new?

I haven’t seen any genotyping date, but I’d be surprised if it isn’t related to the Mennonite outbreak.

This is a concern for us. Clade 1 is way more infectious than what we were dealing with a few years ago:

 
Still unlikely to become a human pandemic, but if it does this would be significantly worse than Covid-19:

 

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