Black tie formal wear dinner jackets smoking jackets & festive occassion wear thread

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doghouse said:
What about the ice cream parlor? Oh wait, that requires white tie. My mistake.
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You sir are a jealous, arrogant idiot. PRO TIP come to SD and say things like "Hitting puberty might help though" around me and the people I know; on my mothers life I could make one phone call and send you back to puberty with your balls cut off and stuffed in your face, later to be found in a ditch on the outskirts of Tijuana by Polica Federal. No joke, have respect for everybody and yourself or deal with the consequences of your actions. That is grown man talk so handle your business accordingly.
 
prince nez said:
You sir are a jealous, arrogant idiot. PRO TIP come to SD and say things like "Hitting puberty might help though" around me and the people I know; on my mothers life I could make one phone call and send you back to puberty with your balls cut off and stuffed in your face, later to be found in a ditch on the outskirts of Tijuana by Polica Federal. No joke, have respect for everybody and yourself or deal with the consequences of your actions. That is grown man talk so handle your business accordingly.
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:ahahahaha:

Was that the direct quote or just paraphrasing? I can't be bothered to go look.
 
On my drive home today.

A lady can’t follow the lines and stay in her own lane on a curve and then we end up next to each other at a stop light. I drive this every day and I know where the lanes are…

Lady: hey asshole you just cut me off and almost hit my car.

Me: it’s a piece of shit anyways.

Lady: fuck you, you asshole.

Me: in your dreams old lady

Lady: you’re a real dick, learn to drive.

Me: I love you.

Life of Excess.
 
I'm going to the opera twice this month (La Traviata x2, two different women) so I'll get two chances.
 
Slightly off-topic, but just found out tonight that we're going to a 20s-themed Christmas party, so another chance to wear the dinner jacket.

What is the opinion about white silk dress scarves? Normally I wouldn't bother, but since there will doubtless be some costume-y goings on there it won't look out of place. I imagine if anybody isn't in black tie they'll be done up like a parody of Al Capone.

Is it worth getting one to jolly it up a bit? Or will I just look like a rampant homosechsualist?

Also, does anyone know - are they supposed to be removed at any point, or does one just wear it for the entire evening? I was under the impression you wouldn't take it off during dinner etc, but I'm not sure.
 
Algernon Crisp said:
Slightly off-topic, but just found out tonight that we're going to a 20s-themed Christmas party, so another chance to wear the dinner jacket.

What is the opinion about white silk dress scarves? Normally I wouldn't bother, but since there will doubtless be some costume-y goings on there it won't look out of place. I imagine if anybody isn't in black tie they'll be done up like a parody of Al Capone.

Is it worth getting one to jolly it up a bit? Or will I just look like a rampant homosechsualist?

Also, does anyone know - are they supposed to be removed at any point, or does one just wear it for the entire evening? I was under the impression you wouldn't take it off during dinner etc, but I'm not sure.
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I say go for it. Whether you'll ever be able to wear it outside of a costume party is up to you. I don't see why you couldn't wear it any time you wear the tux.

As for taking it off, unless they have a space for coats, where would you put the fucking thing?
 
prince nez said:
You sir are a jealous, arrogant idiot. PRO TIP come to SD and say things like "Hitting puberty might help though" around me and the people I know; on my mothers life I could make one phone call and send you back to puberty with your balls cut off and stuffed in your face, later to be found in a ditch on the outskirts of Tijuana by Polica Federal. No joke, have respect for everybody and yourself or deal with the consequences of your actions. That is grown man talk so handle your business accordingly.
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NEVER GETS OLD!!!
 
Algernon Crisp said:
Slightly off-topic, but just found out tonight that we're going to a 20s-themed Christmas party, so another chance to wear the dinner jacket.

What is the opinion about white silk dress scarves? Normally I wouldn't bother, but since there will doubtless be some costume-y goings on there it won't look out of place. I imagine if anybody isn't in black tie they'll be done up like a parody of Al Capone.

Is it worth getting one to jolly it up a bit? Or will I just look like a rampant homosechsualist?

Also, does anyone know - are they supposed to be removed at any point, or does one just wear it for the entire evening? I was under the impression you wouldn't take it off during dinner etc, but I'm not sure.
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Wear it. You won't look overly rampant.

Is the scarf not a black tie accessory and as such you would leave it on?
 
Thruth said:
Wear it. You won't look overly rampant.

Is the scarf not a black tie accessory and as such you would leave it on?
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't quite sure. I think there's some etiquette about white dress gloves - you wear them (well, nobody does now, but you know what I mean) throughout the evening, but take them off to dine. Or maybe it was to dance.

Just wondering if there was a similar thing for the scarf.
 
Algernon Crisp said:
That's what I thought, but I wasn't quite sure. I think there's some etiquette about white dress gloves - you wear them (well, nobody does now, but you know what I mean) throughout the evening, but take them off to dine. Or maybe it was to dance.

Just wondering if there was a similar thing for the scarf.
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Article by an Engrishman who business is etiquette. There is also a bit on the "tuxedo controversy" we had a little while back

The proper dress code for Black Tie. Male celebrities, please spare us your downmarket experiments – Telegraph Blogs

Accessories: Visible timepieces are technically not worn (although a subtle wristwatch is now okay) because Black Tie events are not something in which timekeeping is a priority. White gloves and scarves are a bit OTT nowadays and were only worn when travelling to and from the venue.
 
Thruth said:
Article by an Engrishman who business is etiquette. There is also a bit on the "tuxedo controversy" we had a little while back

The proper dress code for Black Tie. Male celebrities, please spare us your downmarket experiments – Telegraph Blogs

Accessories: Visible timepieces are technically not worn (although a subtle wristwatch is now okay) because Black Tie events are not something in which timekeeping is a priority. White gloves and scarves are a bit OTT nowadays and were only worn when travelling to and from the venue.
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Interesting. He's making a bit of a name for himself, and generally seems to know his stuff. I'm surprised at the "only travelling" thing though, I really didn't think that was the case. I'll have to do a bit more investigating.
 
Algernon Crisp said:
Interesting. He's making a bit of a name for himself, and generally seems to know his stuff. I'm surprised at the "only travelling" thing though, I really didn't think that was the case. I'll have to do a bit more investigating.
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There are other opinions, such as the Black Tie Guide that says it is now okay to wear a scarf indoors.

There was a rancorous discussion on AAAC on the topic.
 
doghouse said:
What other sort is there?
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Hah. On one thread, they debated black tie & white scarf. On another, same dude asked a similar question and the fools raced off in all directions talking about red scarves and grey scarves
 
Thruth said:
There are other opinions, such as the Black Tie Guide that says it is now okay to wear a scarf indoors.

There was a rancorous discussion on AAAC on the topic.
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I've done a search on AAAAAAAAAAAAAC, there are quite a few threaks concerning this. The Earl of Ormonde was quite adamant that dress scarves are not for indoors - but he's an ignorant fuck who is adamant about everything, and I wouldn't give a fragment of gusset crust for his fucking opinions.

However, Shaver (who I think is pretty reliable) shares the same opinion in another threak, and cites Hardie Amies's book in support:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/...ilk-Scarf-for-Black-Tie&p=1517083#post1517083

So now I think I might get one and wear it on the way, but check it in with the overcoat and the ushanka when I arrive.
 
Algernon Crisp said:
I've done a search on AAAAAAAAAAAAAC, there are quite a few threaks concerning this. The Earl of Ormonde was quite adamant that dress scarves are not for indoors - but he's an ignorant fuck who is adamant about everything, and I wouldn't give a fragment of gusset crust for his fucking opinions.

However, Shaver (who I think is pretty reliable) shares the same opinion in another threak, and cites Hardie Amies's book in support:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/...ilk-Scarf-for-Black-Tie&p=1517083#post1517083

So now I think I might get one and wear it on the way, but check it in with the overcoat and the ushanka when I arrive.
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Do it you raging style bastard
 
Algernon Crisp said:
Also, does anyone know - are they supposed to be removed at any point, or does one just wear it for the entire evening? I was under the impression you wouldn't take it off during dinner etc, but I'm not sure.
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Is a scarf not like a hat where it ought to be removed indoors. I've had accessories (brolly, etc.) in coat check or the cloak room. Or if your date is carrying a regular hand bag, just have her stow it.
 
prince nez said:
You sir are a jealous, arrogant idiot. PRO TIP come to SD and say things like "Hitting puberty might help though" around me and the people I know; on my mothers life I could make one phone call and send you back to puberty with your balls cut off and stuffed in your face, later to be found in a ditch on the outskirts of Tijuana by Polica Federal. No joke, have respect for everybody and yourself or deal with the consequences of your actions. That is grown man talk so handle your business accordingly.
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Livin on the road my friend, is gonna keep you free and clean
Now you wear your skin like iron
Your breath as hard as kerosene
You weren't your momma's only boy, but her favorite one it seems
She began to cry when you said goodbye
And sank into your dreams
Pancho was a bandit boy, his horse was fast as polished steel
He wore his gun outside his pants
For all the honest world to feel
Pancho met his match you know on the deserts down in Mexico
Nobody heard his dyin words, ah but that's the way it goes

All the Federales say, they could've had him any day
They only let him slip away, out of kindness I suppose
 
fxh said:
Livin on the road my friend, is gonna keep you free and clean
Now you wear your skin like iron
Your breath as hard as kerosene
You weren't your momma's only boy, but her favorite one it seems
She began to cry when you said goodbye
And sank into your dreams
Pancho was a bandit boy, his horse was fast as polished steel
He wore his gun outside his pants
For all the honest world to feel
Pancho met his match you know on the deserts down in Mexico
Nobody heard his dyin words, ah but that's the way it goes

All the Federales say, they could've had him any day
They only let him slip away, out of kindness I suppose
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A Chico's gotta have his share.

 
I'll post a photo of the whole thing when I next wear it, but here are most of the accessories:

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Colour is a bit off, the back is a bit more plum than it looks here.
 
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Links and armbands. The links are hallmarked Chester 1930s (1936 I think but couldn't be certain without looking it up).

The armbands were marketed as 'The Piccadilly Armlet'. Obviously not made any more but you can still find them in vintage shops and so on. Each link has got two tiny springs in it - I don't really need them as my shirts are more or less just right in the sleeve, but I just like wearing them because they're so beautifully made.

They're better than the modern single spring type - they do the job just as well but don't pinch in the same way.
 
doghouse said:
Interesting waistcoat. I couldn't do it, but I like it.
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Thanks. It's very old-fashioned, but that's what I was after. The pockets should really be welted instead of jetted, and the back isn't traditional, but it's only ever seen at home.
 
In tonight's Downton Abbey, the valet places the scarf on Henry Talbot when he leaves the house. But then he's wearing white tie.
 
So I have a friend getting married this summer and actually having an evening wedding where black tie is requested. A little bit of my faith in humanity has been restored.

Also, stay off my lawn.
 
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Black Tie required or Black Tie optional? Or just "Black Tie"?

You might be surprised. The last time I went to a cousin's wedding where people came (well...could come) in black tie, the younger gents (25-early 30s) actually hewed pretty close to canon. They didn't reuse their high school prom outfits. This is owing, I reckon, to the renewed interest in menswear amongst the younger lot.

And they didn't wear it during the daytime ceremony.
 
Fwiffo said:
Black Tie required or Black Tie optional? Or just "Black Tie"?

You might be surprised. The last time I went to a cousin's wedding where people came (well...could come) in black tie, the younger gents (25-early 30s) actually hewed pretty close to canon. They didn't reuse their high school prom outfits. This is owing, I reckon, to the renewed interest in menswear amongst the younger lot.

And they didn't wear it during the daytime ceremony.
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Specifically "Black Tie Requested" which is wear it if you got it or can rent I believe.

I'm hoping to be surprised really, but I fully expect a lot of terrible rigs. The fools don't even know the best way to stand out is to have a well cut clean DJ in a sea of abomination. I do know one other friend attending has a proper setup, and the father of the groom as well. The brother in law of the bride is the type who wears Affliction clothing with Gucci loafers so I anticipate a hilarious result from him.

Either way, I am looking forward to this. Maybe the gents will pleasantly surprise me as you say.
 
doghouse said:
Specifically "Black Tie Requested" which is wear it if you got it or can rent I believe.

I'm hoping to be surprised really, but I fully expect a lot of terrible rigs. The fools don't even know the best way to stand out is to have a well cut clean DJ in a sea of abomination. I do know one other friend attending has a proper setup, and the father of the groom as well. The brother in law of the bride is the type who wears Affliction clothing with Gucci loafers so I anticipate a hilarious result from him.

Either way, I am looking forward to this. Maybe the gents will pleasantly surprise me as you say.
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go and wear gucci bitloafers with your SMOKINGtm
 
All my evening shirts are pretty well decrepit, think I'm gonna get a couple new ones made up. Any recommended tissue? Acorn has a couple marcellas but nothing that wows me. Small to medium waffle/pique is what I'm aiming for. It's been eons since I've looked for this crap.
 
doghouse said:
All my evening shirts are pretty well decrepit, think I'm gonna get a couple new ones made up. Any recommended tissue? Acorn has a couple marcellas but nothing that wows me. Small to medium waffle/pique is what I'm aiming for. It's been eons since I've looked for this crap.
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with pleats??
 
Pre wedding report from the little get together of grooms friends.

Groom has a peak cream DJ, not bad, only flaw is flaps. No waist covering though.

One straight up prom night getup. Long blue tie, high paisley waistcoat. Highly hilarious.
 
Perhaps they are withholding the real attire for the wedding proper.
 
I have to say it's 29c here today. I can't imagine putting on black tie and walking around outside for longer than 15 minutes.
 
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