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Rambo

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Bolsonaro elected in Brazil. I expect the favelas to be bulldozed shortly. Amazon shortly after that.
 

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Congratulations to the Brazilians for rejecting the candidate of the party that has been in one corruption scandal after another. Very telling that our MSM support the bad guys.
 

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Congratulations to the Brazilians for rejecting the candidate of the party that has been in one corruption scandal after another. Very telling that our MSM support the bad guys.
of all your horrible takes on the right wing fascists this has to be the worst. forget that bolsonaro is a literal fascist, he's practically pledged to cut down the rest of the fucking rainforest. how on earth can you see this as a good thing?
 

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of all your horrible takes on the right wing fascists this has to be the worst. forget that bolsonaro is a literal fascist, he's practically pledged to cut down the rest of the fucking rainforest. how on earth can you see this as a good thing?
One thing we've learned during the last couple of years, is that all of us who are not goose stepping along with the liberal establishment and enjoying our 20 minutes of MSM endorsed Hate each day, is that we are all mini-Hitlers, deplorables, fascists and in danger of getting doxed and exposed for transgressing from the narrative. Add into that the cynical exploitation of identity politics and you've fired everything you've got. You've got nothing left to call us by, no name, no slander left. We're all literally Hitler now.

Bolsonaro ran on a pledge to restore security and stamp out corruption. The two biggest problems that Brazil has is extreme violence and endemic corruption. If the mission to eradicate these problems be fascist, then so be it.

Edit: Sorry, I didn't respond to the rainforest stuff. A lot of the Amazonian rainforest is flooded and difficult to exploit for hardwoods or cattle. I don't believe even Bolsonaro is in a position to totally destroy the rainforest. Much of the real pristine forest is in Peru anyway. Access to the Yanomami reserves in Roraima and elsewhere is restricted and protected habitat. Wild cat gold mining with it's mercury pollution is found also in Venezuela, under the socialists.
 
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Argentina and Brazil on list of countries to visit. Politics and government not important providing Holiday is enjoyable. People moaned about Castro but Cuba was still a great place to spend a few weeks.

China also on to do list. However, I don’t want to waste a day going to see pandas, which is a regular stop on tourist tours or stay overnight on a boat down the Yangtze. Following a guide with a flag and smog mask may also take the shine off it. But what can you do when you cannot read the signs or speak the language?
 

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Argentina and Brazil on list of countries to visit. Politics and government not important providing Holiday is enjoyable. People moaned about Castro but Cuba was still a great place to spend a few weeks.

China also on to do list. However, I don’t want to waste a day going to see pandas, which is a regular stop on tourist tours or stay overnight on a boat down the Yangtze. Following a guide with a flag and smog mask may also take the shine off it. But what can you do when you cannot read the signs or speak the language?
Beijing can get very expensive hotel wise very quick. The air is awful, I will post tomorrow photos. Plenty of English speaking trips from the major hotels. The Great Wall with tea ceremony is a good one, just be wary when they take you to the Chinese medicine place and they try to give you some exotic teas to rid you of your ailments, both real and pretend. Shanghai is great as well, cleaner air.

Brazil is fantastic, but you need to know the laws of the jungle and if you're there a for a short period without a superlative guide, I can guarantee you will come away with a negative impression.

I'm lucky, as you know, I lived in Rio for a number of years and I was very close to being Our Man In Sao Paulo and I get to visit China on business and get well entertained.

South America is big on caudillo style politicians.
Indeed, whichever way you swing down there, it's all about might and fire power e.g. despite Neo-Marxist YouTube stuff being posted on here for Western consumption; no local in Rio or Sao Pao who lives outside of some very gated and elite areas can afford to go outside or for a drive if they're not packing a fire arm. And I mean in a car, no one sane will even dare walk out at night. Everyone is loaded and ready, as they need to be.
 

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A Westerner in China is in the same position as a Chinese tourist in the West. If cannot communicate you are dependent on the guide. Chinese have many admirable qualities but it may be ‘devil take the hindmost’ when they are in a crowd.

Don’t want to be worried about violent locals on a holiday either. Friends went to Brazil for World Cup but they knew people there and stayed in the North East.

Safer to stick to Bournemouth.
 
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