Cop Tyranny Thread

Not sure what you're trying to argue here (or that article). DeBliaso's right - the place to overturn this type of stuff is the court system, not trying to outwrestle an armed law enforcement officer who can call in almost limitless reinforcements. And having some sort of mass movement to resist arrest is going to get a shitload of innocent people killed and property destroyed.

I think the bigger point here is that police are detaining and arresting people too often without any real cause. Arrest should be a last resort, not a first and then sort it out later. To a cop, its a job. To a citizen, its a lawyer, embarrassment, a potential criminal history, and a wealth of other things that come with it.

What police consider resisting nowadays is hardly more than someone responding to the police's own brutality.
 
Anonymous, #OpFerguson




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Interview with kid that was with the kid who was killed, Anonymous leaks tapes that prove police lied:




The full 2 hours of leaked police tapes are here:

 
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They got another one:
http://gawker.com/hard-working-father-of-five-dies-in-custody-after-mul-1622147958

"Hard-Working" Father of Five Dies in Custody After Multiple Tasings

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Dante Parker, a 36-year-old married father of five who family and coworkers described as a hard-working "good dad" with a sense of humor, died this week after San Bernardino County Sheriff's deputies stunned him multiple times with a taser.

Parker, an employee of the Victorville Daily Press, was riding his bike at around 5 p.m. Tuesday when deputies stopped him. According to the sheriff's department, he was a suspect in a local burglary. Parker was uncooperative with officers, the department says, and after the tasing, his breathing became labored and he began sweating heavily. Eventually, he was taken to Victor Valley Global Medical Center, where he died.

People who knew Parker, however, told the Daily Press he was an honest man who had "everything he wanted and needed," and would not have committed a burglary.

"My cousin was a good man, and that's hard to do when you're born into the streets of L.A. County," [Parker's cousin Ge'shun Harris] said. "(He) worked hard and took care of his kids and his wife. He would have been 37 (on Thursday). He would always tell me to keep working hard so we can ... get our family out of L.A. My cousin was a good (man) who was born into a terrible place but didn't let that stop him."

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"That whole story is totally wrong; that's just not Dante," Richard Loredo, a former Daily Press pressman who worked with Parker, said Wednesday. "Dante's not a burglar ... You can see how well his kids were raised; he was a good dad. For the police department to portray him like that is ... unfair."

One man witness described Parker's struggle with deputies:

"He was ... super strong, it took about two or three guys to get his hands behind him. They went to try to get him to stand up, but he wouldn't do it. ... He kept kicking and kicking and kicking. He was very uncooperative."

Parker had no criminal record other than a 1997 DUI, and had reportedly quit drinking this year. The Sheriff's Departmen is conducting an investigation into his death, the Daily Press reports.​
 
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tips-for-being-an-unarmed-black-teen,36697/

Tips For Being An Unarmed Black Teen

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With riots raging in Ferguson, MO following the shooting death by police of an unarmed African-American youth, the nation has turned its eyes toward social injustice and the continuing crisis of race relations. Here are The Onion’s tips for being an unarmed black teen in America:


  • Shy away from dangerous, heavily policed areas.
  • Avoid swaggering or any other confident behavior that suggests you are not completely subjugated.
  • Be sure not to pick up any object that could be perceived by a police officer as a firearm, such as a cell phone, a food item, or nothing.
  • Explain in clear and logical terms that you do not enjoy being shot, and would prefer that it not happen.
  • Don’t let society stereotype you as a petty criminal. Remember that you can be seen as so much more, from an armed robbery suspect, to a rape suspect, to a murder suspect.
  • Try to see it from a police officer’s point of view: You may be unarmed, but you’re also black.
  • Avoid wearing clothing associated with the gang lifestyle, such as shirts and pants.
  • Revel in the fact that by simply existing, you exert a threatening presence over the nation’s police force.
  • Be as polite and straightforward as possible when police officers are kicking the shit out of you.
This was their faux magazine front page:

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Here's some fun times coming out of Utah:

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/08/16/utah-cops-arrest-man-recording-moms-traffic-stop/





Utah Cops Arrest Man for Recording Mom’s Traffic Stop; Handcuff and Neglect Mom during Diabetic Shock 108
By Carlos Miller
Police in Utah arrested a man for video recording a conversation they were having with his mother before arresting his mother for failing to disperse the area after her son’s arrest, sending her into diabetic shock as they were walking her from the patrol car to the jail.

That led to Vernal City police dragging her handcuffed, unconscious body into the booking room and plopping it down where they stood around smiling as if it was all some kind of joke.

“I freaked out,” said her son, Coty Tabbee, 27, who had just been transported to the booking room in another patrol on disorderly conduct and interfering charges after he stood up for his right to record on a public sidewalk.

“They just didn’t care,” he said. “They just stood around watching, smiling.”

“I said, ‘do you think this is funny?’”

After more than two minutes of Tabbee repeatedly telling them that his mother is a diabetic and needs help, a deputy retrieved a blood sugar testing kit and tested her blood, indicting that the blood glucose level was 200 mg/dl.

The deputies called paramedics who performed CPR on her before transporting her to the hospital where she was cited and released for failure to disperse as well as disorderly conduct. Tabbee was released from jail seven hours later.

The incident, the second from Utah to emerge this week, took place July 27 when Tabbee’s mother had gone to the house of another woman who owed her $20. Hi videos are above and below. A local news station ran a story with the headline Vernal man claims police arrested him for recording mother’s arrest as they had not watched the video.

In a telephone interview with Photography is Not a Crime Friday night, Tabbee explained that the woman tends to drink and pass out, so his mother started yelling through the door to get her attention.

The woman called police and dispatchers said they could hear Tabbee’s mother yelling in the background.

After hanging up with police, the woman stepped out of her house and shoved a screen door into his mother, causing her arm to bleed, Tabbee said.

When cops arrived, his mother wanted cops to arrest the woman for assault, but they told her she would have to file a complaint with the Uintah County Attorney’s Office the following day, which was a Monday.

However, they told her they were going to arrest her for disorderly conduct because she had yelled through the door earlier.

At that point, she called her son, Tabbee, to inform him of the situation and to advise him she may be going to jail.

After the call, they gave her a citation for disorderly conduct and allowed her to leave. As she was driving away, she pulled to the side of the road to call her son, letting him know that she is not being detained anymore and he didn’t need to come.

But the cops wouldn’t allow that, so they walked up to her and told her she needed to leave or get cited for failing to disperse.

That was when Tabbee arrived at the scene with two cameras recording, including a smart phone.

He remained on the sidewalk next to his mother’s car, not saying a word until they asked they questioned him and he told her he was her son.

“Go away,” one cop said.

“I can be right here and record,” Tabbee responded.
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That prompted officer A. Manning to approach him and order him away repeatedly, reminiscent of the infamous Suffolk County arrest that led to a huge settlement this year.

Manning twisted Tabbee’s arm behind him and shoved his midsection into a spiked fence, knocking his iPhone out of his hand where it shattered on the ground.

In jail after they had transported his mother to the hospital, the other officer, whose name is Larsen, told Tabbee the following.

“Ok Coty, If you’re not a dick to these guys, I will tell you how your mom is doing when I get back.”

“And I said ok, thank you,” Tabbee said.

Larsen’s wife seems to be just as pleasant, judging by a comment she left on Tabbee’s video on Facebook, which was captured as a screen shot before she deleted it.
 
And one more:

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...ecording-judge-orders-teen-admit-guilt-trial/

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Utah Cops Arrest Teen for Recording, Judge then Orders Teen to Admit Guilt before Trial 208
By Carlos Miller
For 40 minutes, Utah resident Bryce Weber noticed the cop sitting in an unmarked car parked in front of his home Saturday, so he decided to step outside with a camera to make some inquiries, thinking the cop was surveilling his home for some reason.

Realizing he was being approached, Woods Cross City police officer Ryan Lundquist stepped out the car in full uniform to greet him.

When Weber asked what he was doing, Lundquist said it didn’t concern him, then asked for his name, which Weber declined to provide.

“It doesn’t matter, I know who you are anyway,” Lundquist replied before getting back into his car.

The cop then rolled down the window and accused Weber of “interfering with what I’m about to do.”

Weber, 19, who is on felony probation from a previous arrest involving $50 worth of marijuana which we will discuss below, then stepped onto the sidewalk and continued recording, prompting Lundquist to step back out of his car again.

This time, he brought up the old “officer safety” excuse that cops believe trumps the Constitution.

“You have the right to film from a public sidewalk but when you start to compromise my safety and yours, I’ve got a problem,” the cop said. “You need to return to your home because your safety is going to be in trouble as well as mine because you’re standing right here.”

Weber insisted he wasn’t compromising the officer’s safety by recording, but offered to move down the sidewalk, again asserting his right to document police from a public space.

But the cop insisted that would still be interfering.

“You don’t know what I’m about to do and you’re going to be interfering with my investigation, so if you do want to get arrested, I will get you out of the way where you’ll be safe and that will be jail,” Lundquist threatened.

Weber asked for a sergeant in the hopes to clear up the misconception about the laws on interfering, which require a person to physically interfere or to refuse a lawful order, which would not include refusing to go back inside his home when there is no evidence of danger in the area.

“You’re about to be in our way if you don’t return to your house, I will arrest you right now,” the cops said. “Go back to your house.”

Another cop arrived, not a sergeant, who asserted that Weber was guilty of impeding an investigation and disorderly conduct, the latter for not following “lawful orders.”

But ordering somebody to go back into their home because they are recording is not a lawful order as we learned from the Emily Good case in Rochester, New York in 2011.

It would be different, perhaps, if there was a standoff situation with a potential for a violent shootout while some jackass insists on standing in the line of fire (at least in Florida, which I learned while researching my appeal a few years ago).

But that was not the case here.

“You are holding us up from what we’re about to do because we’re dealing with you, somebody’s life could be in jeopardy right now, so you better move your butt or you’re going to go in my car right now,” Lundquist said.

“Move along!”

Weber agreed to walk across the street, but insisted he was going to continue recording.

And that seemed to satisfy the cops at first, who proceeded to lock their car doors and make their way to the home to investigate this alleged life threatening situation.

But Lundquist continued to allow himself to be distracted by Weber and his camera.

“As long as you’re here, we can’t do our job,” Lundquist shouted from across the street before crossing the street and confronting Weber again, accusing him of standing in his way.

“You’re just really getting in our way and we have somebody’s life in jeopardy right now and we can’t check on them because of you.”

Weber ended up in handcuffs, his phone stripped from him, forced to sit in the back of the car for 40 minutes.

So what exactly were these cops investigating where safety was such a factor they needed to clear the entire block of citizens?

From Weber’s understanding, it stemmed from an incident on the previous Tuesday where a neighbor called police to report a case of possible domestic abuse within the adjoining duplex unit.

When cops arrived, they learned it was only a couple having a loud argument, so they left without making any arrests.

Five days later, it appears as if the neighbor called police again because there was no activity inside the home. Or perhaps cops were just doing a welfare check.

But somehow cops were led to believe something sinister had taken place in the house, which is why one officer sat in his car for 40 minutes waiting for a second cop to arrive before approaching the residence.

It appears that they knocked and received no answer, so they entered the home, but found nothing amiss.

It turns out, the couple had left town on vacation.

Nevertheless, they cited Weber for disorderly conduct and released him, which complicates matters for him because he is already on probation for another arrest from more than a year ago where a cop from the Bountiful Police Department had him handcuffed in the back of the car for possession of $50 worth of marijuana.

During this detainment, Weber received a phone call from a friend, so the cop answered the phone, impersonating his voice. The person calling was wondering if Weber could obtain some marijuana for him, so the cop told the person to meet him at a local high school to make the transaction.

Although the transaction never took place, this enabled Bountiful police to charge Weber with felony possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute because the cop had set up the deal within 1,000 feet of a school.

The fact that the cop answered Weber’s phone as well as set up the transaction at the school seems extremely unconstitutional and entrapping.

But Weber said he was unable to afford a lawyer, so he had to rely on a public defender whom he had no confidence in, which is why he pleaded guilty and was placed on probation.


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However, ever since he posted his video on Facebook on Saturday, his probation officer and the judge are extremely disappointed in him. In fact, the judge, Thomas L. Kay John R. Morris of the Second District Court in Utah, informed Weber that he needs to edit his video to admit he was wrong as well as admit he is a felon.

This is how Weber explained it in a Facebook message:

They didn’t really give me reason. They didn’t tell me I had to delete it per se, but they told me that I must edit the video and admit that I am a felon. Admit that I shouldn’t have been filming the police. Admit I was disrupting the officer. Admit I placed our safety in jeopardy. Also I must meet with the county prosecutor to address what I must edit and say

This is extremely alarming because the judge is essentially demanding Weber admit to guilt before he has even had a chance to enter a plea when the Fifth Amendment allows us to maintain our innocence even after we are convicted.

I know this very well because this one of the arguments I used during my appeal a few years ago, which reversed a resisting arrest conviction where the courts then chose not to refile the case.

In my case, the judge gave me a harsher sentence than sought by the prosecutor because he was “shocked” at my “lack of remorse.” But I will never feel remorse for photographing cops in public and neither should Weber.

While it’s true that probationers generally have less rights than non-probationers, a judge in California last week ruled that probationers have the right to record cops within their homes as well as outside their homes.

From last week’s decision:

The location of where the video recording was being made was plaintiff’s place of residence. If a plaintiff has a clearly established constitutional right to record from a public place where the plaintiff has the lawful right to be, a plaintiff surely has such a right in his or her home. There simply is no principled basis upon which to find that although the right to record officers conducting their official duties only extends to duties performed in public, the right does not extend to those performed in a private residence. The public’s interest in ensuring that police officers properly carry out their duties and do not abuse the authority bestowed on them by society does not cease once they enter the private residence of a citizen. To the contrary, there appears to be an even greater interest for such recordings when a police officer’s actions are shielded from the public’s view. Further, there is no reason to believe that plaintiff’s status as a probationer would diminish the public’s interest in how police exercise their authority in a private citizen’s home.

Weber said he will not edit his post until he meets with a defense attorney. He is also seeking a civil attorney to file suit against both departments.

However, a probation violation can land him in prison for up to five years, so he needs all the help he can get.​
 
So the uniformed cop that pops out of the car is worried about safety because of the attention being drawn by a guy with a phone? LOL
 

Jack Baruth, in deconstructing a Jezebel article, makes this sense. Emphasis added.
Kara Brown of Jezebel said:
Can you explain why the Ferguson Police Department disproportionally searches black people while the contraband hit rate for white people is higher?
Think about this one for a minute and you’ll realize that the answer is problematic for nearly everyone. My first answer is that “The Ferguson Police Department is better at profiling whites.” And is that because a majority of white people who are not involved in criminal activity are easy to spot? Is that because the average white non-criminal in that area looks like Michael Scott from The Office while the average black non-criminal in that area looks exactly like the average black criminal? Is the answer that the Ferguson Police need to be better trained in how to distinguish real thugs from wannabes? But if you think the answer is that white people are actually committing crimes at a higher rate than black people in the United States of America, you need to learn how to read a statistics page.
http://jackbaruth.com/?p=1705
 
You watch, some activist judge is going to ban filming police in public. That video is going to be a classic case of cops building up steam that all these cameras are interfering with their work... and they'll win because the 1% needs them so their lifestyles are maintained.

Cops enjoyed the pre-Rodney King era. They want it back.
 
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Shit quality, but funny. Girl in bikini vs whale cop.

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More piece of shit cops. "Stop resisting" again. Tazed.

"On 5-18-14 I received a call from my 22 year old autistic son. So I immediately got in my truck and went to where my son was being ticketed. As I drove up on the right hand side of the road adjacent to my son's car, I did not leave my vehicle, I kept it running. The officer turned around and asked "can I help you?" I said "I'm his father." The officer yelled at me to leave the premises. I stated "I'm his father, and just wanted to tell you he's autistic." He turned around and said, "Leave or you'll be arrested!" He started walking towards me and said "you're under arrest."


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I'll recuse myself on this one because of my prejudiced belief that parents of autistic children tend to be really annoying.
But I offer the pro-tip of not opening your door when cops are around!
Don't even unlock your door or open windows more than necessary.
 
More piece of shit cops. "Stop resisting" again. Tazed.

"On 5-18-14 I received a call from my 22 year old autistic son. So I immediately got in my truck and went to where my son was being ticketed. As I drove up on the right hand side of the road adjacent to my son's car, I did not leave my vehicle, I kept it running. The officer turned around and asked "can I help you?" I said "I'm his father." The officer yelled at me to leave the premises. I stated "I'm his father, and just wanted to tell you he's autistic." He turned around and said, "Leave or you'll be arrested!" He started walking towards me and said "you're under arrest."


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I love how they taze him, and THEN start yelling at him to get on the ground and stop resisting.
 
I love how they taze him, and THEN start yelling at him to get on the ground and stop resisting.

I love how they taze him, and THEN start yelling at him to get on the ground and stop resisting.

"get on the ground now and stop resisting" Um, I'm pretty sure he is on the ground and not resisting. this has become a mantra for cops hasn't it? If they say stop resisting, it justifies the use of force. Ridiculous. Plus, what is the deal with so many fat fuck cops?
 
oh yeah. what was i thinking. but they seem to be even more shlubby and doughy than your previous generation fat fuck protect and servers
 
oh yeah. what was i thinking. but they seem to be even more shlubby and doughy than your previous generation fat fuck protect and servers

It's because they don't have to chase anyone anymore... shoot first, get political cover later.
 
Sadistic bitch cop tazering guy over and over and over and over again.

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Ha ha, this is brilliant

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I'm pretty sure that offering sale of drugs is a crime, likely felony, even if not in possession. So don't try that trick at home. I recall one man that merely informed another club-goer where drug sales were happening and was imprisoned for decades.
This cop was very lenient and good-natured about this gag.
 
I'm pretty sure that offering sale of drugs is a crime, likely felony, even if not in possession. So don't try that trick at home. I recall one man that merely informed another club-goer where drug sales were happening and was imprisoned for decades.
This cop was very lenient and good-natured about this gag.

The cop had no proof. His word against the kid. Unless, of course the video was seized.
 
Is the requirement for a guilty verdict more stringent than for traffic court? Because officer testimony alone has done me in at least once.

I would imagine so. We'd need our resident attorneys to chime in, but it appears the Rustler is on vacation again.
 
No one disagreed with your notion that the cops take shit for money. But that has nothing to do with them procuring military hardware from the government.

It absolutely does, you're just not seeing the connection. Cops are thirsty for this equipment, new patrol cars, the newest kevlar, AND PAY RAISES. Seizure is how it gets funded.
 
It absolutely does, you're just not seeing the connection. Cops are thirsty for this equipment, new patrol cars, the newest kevlar, AND PAY RAISES. Seizure is how it gets funded.
NO IT ISN'T GOD DAMN IT! This specific military hardware comes from the government through programs setup by Congress. Please read some of the links I posted in the militarization thread. Cops don't buy this crap with their seizure money.
 
I think confiscation, by and large, is a perk or bonus more than a continuous revenue generator. I'm sure there are particularly unscrupulous locales, but the amount the taxpayer voluntarily surrenders to local and federal taxes is magnitudes greater.

This unquestionable spending for policing gets to the issue of hypermasculinity. The same way the estrogen brigade will accuse any detractor of rampant education over-spending of hating children, anyone that dare ask wtf cops need treaded bomb-proof vehicles and sonic nausea inducers is labeled as soft on crime. And of course most of this stuff is military left-overs from superfluity because somehow overspending on the military and fruitless wars is seen as macho and a political bragging point while those with the balls to point out the folly and waste are portrayed as unpatriotic and cowardly.
 
NO IT ISN'T GOD DAMN IT! This specific military hardware comes from the government through programs setup by Congress. Please read some of the links I posted in the militarization thread. Cops don't buy this crap with their seizure money.

I understand that, dude. And how does all that shit get maintained? Is that free too? I did read your links. There is a connection between how police forces equip themselves: either free thru the Pentagon or free off our asses thru seizures.
 

Working the street, I can’t even count how many times I withstood curses, screaming tantrums, aggressive and menacing encroachments on my safety zone, and outright challenges to my authority.

Maybe I'm sensitive, but I question the use of the word authority here. The law is the authority, they are tasked with enforcing the law. A challenge to authority is breaking the law, otherwise the cop has no standing. I can eat plenty of shit too, and I have no authority... should someone strike me, I have the right to call in authority to defend my rights, but to suggest you have an innate authority that is not an enforceable law is authoritarian.

We are still learning what transpired between Officer Darren Wilson and Brown, but in most cases it’s less ambiguous — and officers are rarely at fault. When they use force, they are defending their, or the public’s, safety.

This might be the authors belief, but in no way does it reflect policing as a whole. A large number of cops are authoritarian militants that crave the use of force. Just look above at that stupid bitch tazing that guy over and over and over and over... what was she defending there? I didn't see it, to me, that looked like a sadistic bitch.

Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you.

Um, no. Unless I'm detained, being arrested or not otherwise interfering or breaking any laws, you can fuck off, you don't have authority over me and the right to impede my freedom of speech and movement. This is fundamentally what cops don't understand, they thinks its do what I tell you or else. It's just not.

I submit this entire thread as evidence to contradict what this guy is saying. Cops are not an authority, I refuse to submit to that belief system, they are there to enforce laws that are broken and have no standing in my eyes otherwise.
 
Just another view point.

Here's a viewpoint.

There were 100,000 ways to deescalate this. You can say the guy was asking for it, in may ways, yes, but I am sure it could have ended peacefully if the police wasn't so aggressively matching his bravado.

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