Cop Tyranny Thread

I meant the front door of your house, not a car. I didn't contextualize it.

You didn't see that Democracy Now coverage of the elderly black guy in the Bronx last year who accidentally pressed his medical emergency button. After they called him and told them everything was ok they still sent cops to his apt, he refused to open the door in middle of the night so they busted it down and tazed him to death.
 
You didn't see that Democracy Now coverage of the elderly black guy in the Bronx last year who accidentally pressed his medical emergency button. After they called him and told them everything was ok they still sent cops to his apt, he refused to open the door in middle of the night so they busted it down and tazed him to death.

That's an edge case...
 
Gotta love how they handcuffed him after shooting the shit out of him.

The youtube link in the article link has the audio unlike the embedded live leak video. Of course the officer tries to find drugs in his pockets after murdering him.
 
Fucking political correctness. We all know those black teens were behaving civil.

It doesn't excuse the officer, but what would you do if you were at your local pool and a horde of troublemakers descended on your pool and started to pick fights and menace? The kids in question, as far as I understand it, weren't from around there.
 
After watching the video over a few times, I actually think the officer used constraint trying to subdue the situation all by himself. The kids weren't from there and there was a sign that clearly stated no more than 2 guests per resident (read that somewhere). The kids mouthed off the officer and he had to do what had to be done.

No one was tased nor shot, I think it was a rather fortunate situation only resulted in some stupid kids screaming.

My problem is overall, black kids nowadays have no respect with authority. They think or believe they are somehow invincible. I witnessed first hand the flashmobs that used to occur on the Country Club Plaza a few years ago where swarms of kids gathered and littered and destroyed properties. After the cops showed up, kids started mouthing off and taunting the officers. Maybe its the lack of parental control, lack of respect, or race is in every factor, but I have no sympathy towards these kids.
 
The Enforcer Class | Ian Welsh

The Enforcer Class
June 10
If you are a left-winger who wants to, in effect, overthrow a racist oligarchical system, the police are not your friends. Nor, need I point out, are corrections officers. Nor is most of the court system.

These people belong to the enforcer class. Police and corrections officers are paid not just in money but in license to brutalize. In most cases they can get away with beating people up and even killing them. To stop a police officer from skating on murder requires riots, as a rule, and even that doesn’t usually work. The FBI has cleared themselves of every killing an FBI officer has performed for decades.

This is not incidental; this is not an accident, this is how our lords and rulers want the enforcement system to run.

Police are selected and trained and socialized to either become thugs, or to cover up thuggery. Imbeciles will say things like “not all cops”, but it is virtually unheard of for the “good cops” to inform on the bad cops: they keep their mouths shut. This is wise on their part, of course, since the vast majority of police would turn on them in seconds if they were to betray the blue wall of silence.

America, per capita, imprisons more people than any other country in the world. Many of these people are non-violent drug offenders who used a drug which is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. Solitary confinement is widespread, prison rape is widespread, and there is plenty of evidence of prison guard collusion in rape and battery.

If you are an African American male you are far more likely to have spent time in prison than in University.

And police lie routinely about those they arrest. How many people are in prison who didn’t commit the crime they are accused of, or who would not have been convicted if police hadn’t concealed exculpatory evidence is unknown for obvious reasons, but I would stake a great deal that it is a non-trivial number.

All of this assuming they even had a trial, since most people in prison never had one: they plead out. That’s absolutely not an indication they were guilty of a single thing, it is an indication that they couldn’t afford to fight the system because justice is very expensive, and because the prosecuting attorney fold them that if they went to trial and lost (which doesn’t, again, mean they were guilty) that they’d throw the book at them.

The American “Justice” system cannot operate without plea bargains. You arrest too many people for that. Hardly anybody gets justice, they get railroaded to prison without a trial, on the word of police who are willing to lie, and once there they are felons and their lives are permanently destroyed.

The people who run this system are not your friends. They do not like you. They enjoy the authority they have, and if you “disrespect a cop”, even if you’re firmly within your rights, if they think they can get away with it, they will fuck you up, enjoy it and firmly believe that you deserve it. Then they’ll lie about it.

Not your friends. Not your allies. The hard fist of the oligarchy, the boot stamping on your face over and over again.

If you do not understand this you are living in a fantasy land, delusional in the face of real, hard, power.
 
Endless vid. Skimmed it. What a waste of time by the police. Intimidation tactics didn't work, he didn't submit to identifying himself and they let him go. They were going to take him to get fingerprinted, but they never did. Kid stood up for his rights, and he was correct. He was doing nothing suspicious to warrant being detained.

Cops were exceedingly respectful.

 
Cops raiding medical marijuana store then eat pot brownies. Stupidity of the "drug war" exposed.

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Rambo posted this in the Elite thread to try to make a point against athletes, but it really belongs here. I edited the shit out of it for brevity and to focus on what I thought were some crazy figures.

The Elite - athletics division

Outside the Lines: College athletes at major programs benefit from confluence of factors to sometimes avoid criminal charges

Rainey's experience as a star athlete accused of criminal activity -- stalking, fighting, injuring someone with fireworks -- but ending up with a mostly clean record is not uncommon: From 2009 to 2014, male basketball and football players at the University of Florida and Florida State University avoided criminal charges or prosecution on average two-thirds of the time when named as suspects in police documents, a result far exceeding that of non-athlete males in the same age range, an Outside the Lines investigation has found.

Last fall, to determine how often crimes involving college athletes are prosecuted and what factors influence them, Outside the Lines requested police reports involving all football and men's basketball players on rosters from 2009 to 2014 from campus and city police departments covering 10 major programs: Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Missouri, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Texas A&M and Wisconsin. Some police departments withheld records citing state disclosure laws. (ESPN sued the University of Notre Dame and Michigan State University for not releasing material; both cases are pending on appeal.) And not all information was uniform among jurisdictions.

ABOUT THIS PROJECT
Outside the Lines cross-referenced football and men's basketball rosters from 2009 through 2014 at 10 schools with police reports from 20 campus and city police departments to complete this project. How to interpret the data.

Individual reports about what Outside the Lines found at each school studied:

• Auburn
• Florida
• Florida State
• Michigan State
• Missouri
• Notre Dame
• Oklahoma State
• Oregon State
• Texas A&M
• Wisconsin

But available reports showed that Rainey's alma mater, Florida, had the most athletes -- 80 -- named as suspects in more than 100 crimes at Florida. Yet the athletes either never faced charges, had charges against them dropped or were not prosecuted 56 percent of the time. When Outside the Lines examined a comparison set of cases involving college-age males in Gainesville, 28 percent of the crimes ended either without a record of charges being filed or by charges eventually being dropped.

Florida State had the second-highest number of athletes named in criminal allegations: 66 men's basketball and football athletes. In 70 percent of those incidents, the athletes either never faced charges, had charges against them dropped or were not prosecuted. By comparison, cases ended up without being prosecuted 50 percent of the time among a sample of crimes involving college-age males in Tallahassee.


• Some athletic programs have, in effect, a team lawyer who showed up at a crime scene or jail or police department -- sometimes even before an athlete requested legal counsel. The lawyers, sometimes called by athletic department officials, were often successful in giving athletes an edge in evading prosecution -- from minor offenses to major crimes.


Incident resolutions
The incidents Outside the Lines examined did not always ended up prosecutions or charges.

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Some takeaways from this - how fucked up is it that 50% of all arrests that the Tallahassee Police Department make of college-aged males end up in dropped charges? Why are these people being arrested in the first place? How many people are having to pay fines, miss work, etc... as a result of this?

Also, this article barely touches on (well, I edited it out to make it more readable) the fact that these (predominately) black athletes have legal representation, which is likely the single largest factor in why the conviction rate is so disparate.
 
Interesting. I didn't know you could keep your window down.

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Okay, Maybe THIS Is Why People Think Cops Are Bad Guys | Riverside Green
Two weeks ago, my brother asked how cops got a bad name in the media. I’d suggest that much of it is due to the fact that

* cops tend to Live In Reality, since they are in constant constant/conflict with the general public;
* wealthy/privileged liberals tend to be insulated from the worst aspects of reality by their, you guessed it, wealth and privilege. Case in point, if you’re interested.

As a consequence of the above difference in situations, the police find themselves having to justify their treatment of someone like Michael Brown to people who have never had to confront a Michael Brown (or, it should be noted, a Dylann Storm Roof) in their lives. They are continually endangered by the lawless thugs and scumbags (of all, or at least most, colors) who inhabit America’s cities. They have to deal with those people in high-stress situations where they have limited time and resources to address those situations. And then they get Monday-morning quarterbacked by people who live in three-million-dollar Park Slope mansions. It’s a tough situation, only partly ameliorated by the princely salaries and benefits that most police enjoy.

So I’m often inclined to give the police the benefit of the doubt… and then I see something like this.


The full story is here but here’s the important part:

Parsley says a Columbus Police Officer came to his house to follow up on a hit-and-skip case Parsley says he was a victim of two weeks ago. He says when the officer stepped outside – a woman, two houses down, came running out and pleading for help.

“She was wanting medical attention for her sister,” Parsley said. “That’s why she called the guy over there.”

Parsley went back inside his house. A few seconds later he heard the gunshot.

“I did hear the gunshot – it was very loud,” he said. “At first I thought maybe he’d shot the dog, because she was saying something about ‘Why would you try to shoot the dog?’ and he said something like the dog was attacking him, or something like that. Then, she started saying ‘You shot my kid!’.”

According to CPD, when the officer approached the house the family’s dog charged him.

“The officer fires one shot at the dog, misses the dog and accidentally shoots a four-year-old in the leg,” CPD spokeswoman, Denise Alex-Bouzounis, said.

Let me go on record as saying I am 100% in favor of police, or civilians, shooting troublesome dogs. Just one days’ walk (or BMX ride) through any low-income part of any town will show you just how out-of-control people let their various pitbulls, Dobermans, et al get. I’m not sure what kind of dog I despise more, honestly: the “attack dogs” that bite the faces off children in their own homes while their owners pull the “Dindu Nuffin” card, or the “fur babies” that twentysomething women use to enslave and emasculate their beta-male partners. I’m not sure when, exactly, dogs became equal to people and more important than fetuses/tissue/whatever, but it’s a deplorable state of affairs, it’s an indictment of our sick “culture”, and it’s the type of situation that is crying out for rectification via a Smith&Wesson.

Consequently, I have no issue with the idea of a cop who is entering a home at the request of a homeowner shooting an aggressive dog. But you have to be able to hit the fucking dog, man! There are two major errors being made here:

* Not being able to hit a dog at close range. Even if the dog is moving, this should not be difficult. I’m pretty sure I could do it 100 out of 100 times. It’s easier than trapshooting.
* Not knowing what’s behind your target. This is Jeff Cooper’s famous fourth rule and it is not optional regardless of what the author in the linked piece thinks. This would be a grievous error on the part of an armed citizen. On the part of a police officer, it should be grounds for immediate termination without recourse. This cop should already be a non-supercitizen as we speak.

Of course, that ain’t gonna happen. Which is another reason people hate cops; they play by different rules than the rest of us. But if you read the comments on the original article, you’ll see something that’s even more depressing. Most of the commenters aren’t worried about the kid who got shot. They’re upset about the fact that the cop fired his weapon at the dog.

In other words, the majority of the people who care enough to read a news website are more worried about the welfare of a “mutt” than they are about the impact on a four-year-old of being shot.

Would you want to spend the rest of your life trying to enforce some sort of order, or behavior, on a society made of worthless human garbage like that?

It’s enough to make you have sympathy for the police after all.
 
And this poor guy will get accused of resisting. Did nuffin, fo real this time.

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