Cop Tyranny Thread

I knew a few at Cambridge, they aren't pleasant people.

The Far Left and anarcho types are filled to the brim with venom. It's their condition: joyless, emotionally cruel and heartless. And most seem to be from upper middle class backgrounds. There are exceptions, the likes of Glorio de Piero. I watched her at the Labour conference and I was left with no doubt that here was another member of the intelligenstia that despised the human race and condition.

Do you believe all the graffiti you see?

When you go to the toilet in the pub and someone's scrawled "For a good time, call Jenny on 555-555-555", do you give her a call? Or if you see "Kilroy was here" painted on a wall, do you actually think that Kilroy was there?

My point is, of course, that simply because somebody slapped some paint on the side of a motorway overpass, doesn't mean that it represents reality.

I don't take that paramilitary graffiti literally, but I do take the intent and propaganda: we're organised and here to have dominion.

The reality is Antifa is back tacking and pretending it's not well organised and funded.

It's clear from the endless streams of videos that Antifa is actively engaged in the chaos. The MSM has lost control has no option but to along with this Frankenstein monster they've bigged-up.
 
Interesting how certain members here seem too happy to spill e-ink excoriating 'the far left' but sins of the far-right is glossed over, barely mentioned or attended to with such vim and vigour.

Well, Interesting is not really an apt word but ya know.
 
Interesting how certain members here seem too happy to spill e-ink excoriating 'the far left' but sins of the far-right is glossed over, barely mentioned or attended to with such vim and vigour.

Well, Interesting is not really an apt word but ya know.

Whataboutism: the Far Right is not a major threat. They've been neutered and a spent force for years. Where they exist they tend be loners and nut cases. Yes, they can kill and cause damage, but most of recent terrorists on the far right of the scale have been lone wolves, like several Islamic terrorists here in Europe. The local village idiot. The likes of Combat 18 were well infiltrated. And the likes of the BNP, just clowns like Nick Griffin.

I noticed you put mention of the far left in inverted commas. Is that because you think there's no such thing as an organised radical revolutionary movement at work here, up to mischief?

The successful communists and revolutionaries have always been big on strategy. And this is at work here. Tactically they have a problem in the propaganda wing at street level they're being overrun by facts and implementing the Woke card. Looks like the reality studio is about to be breached, yet again!
 
Defund the police, sack the lot of them and let the rioting looters, Antifa, drug gangs, white supremacists, rappers, Mexican cartels and decent folk fight it out for control of America, what could possible go wrong:

 
Libertarians have been saying it for years. The War on Drugs failed. It’s time to be smarter on how we reduce crime. Simply arming more police and building more prisons isn’t helping.

 
Libertarians have been saying it for years. The War on Drugs failed. It’s time to be smarter on how we reduce crime. Simply arming more police and building more prisons isn’t helping.


For years - is not now. The cities are being torched and turned into something out of Escape from New York.

If anything, you want more well trained police, as clearly elements of the masses are like some death cult on a mission to destroy and bring chaos to the communities. Or bring the National Guard and military forces. That would, I agree, resolve the uprising very quickly. Or perhaps the Hollyweird celebs believe that private security forces and closed off estates are the answer, like they have?

Or perhaps, without a police force, the answer will be Antifa and the gulag?
 
For years - is not now. The cities are being torched and turned into something out of Escape from New York.

If anything, you want more well trained police, as clearly elements of the masses are like some death cult on a mission to destroy and bring chaos to the communities. Or bring the National Guard and military forces. That would, I agree, resolve the uprising very quickly. Or perhaps the Hollyweird celebs believe that private security forces and closed off estates are the answer, like they have?

Or perhaps, without a police force, the answer will be Antifa and the gulag?

That Dutch ganja is wicked strong stuff, huh?
 
Good news everyone, the cop problem is solved. Because now the mercenaries have been deployed:

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So we can all look forward to even more extrajudicial killings, as well as first "disappearances" to occur over the next couple of weeks.
 
That Dutch ganja is wicked strong stuff, huh?

Only for you tourists.

Wild west mother fucker:



I hear the move to take the mob to the suburbs and out of the projects and cities isn't going too well. Lost control of the reality studio. Ah diddums!

Good news everyone, the cop problem is solved. Because now the mercenaries have been deployed:

EZidQGVXgAIWKWg


EZidsTnXYAArS1U


So we can all look forward to even more extrajudicial killings, as well as first "disappearances" to occur over the next couple of weeks.

Who's protecting you?

Seriously: you stated that police forces were for lesser people like me. You also stated that they all deserve to die, all of them, for being a cop.

But you boasted about keeping wads of cash around your exclusive apartment just to buy a Philippe Patek to show-off in a business meeting to the lesser mortals.

I know rich people and I know seriously reach people and none of them have such a low estimation of law and order as you. If they're not relying on the local police because of corruption, or lack of professionalism, they rely on private security/police/mercenary type stuff. So which one are you? Or do you really have nothing of worth, and are just blagging it?
 
Definitely the mercenary type. Cheers!

e. I'll leave the mis-quotes/-attributions/-understandings the way the are, because I think it's hillarious! Cuckley, you're absolutely 100% my favorite lolcow.
 
Definitely the mercenary type. Cheers!

e. I'll leave the mis-quotes/-attributions/-understandings the way the are, because I think it's hillarious! Cuckley, you're absolutely 100% my favorite lolcow.

Keep hustling and mincing, you might get some action.
 
Interesting how certain members here seem too happy to spill e-ink excoriating 'the far left' but sins of the far-right is glossed over, barely mentioned or attended to with such vim and vigour.

Well, Interesting is not really an apt word but ya know.

Its the far-left that are the problem. They were attacking British Police outside the entrance to Downing St a few hours ago. I didn't see many neo-nazis sieg heiling

You've also just had Her Majesty's Opposition overrun with far-left types. They aren't being investigated by the EHRC for nothing. An accolade they share exclusively with that other caring, sharing party. The BNP.

The reason the far-right aren't discussed in Britain, is not because they don't exist, obviously they do, its because they are shunned and ostracised.

The Labour Party allowed a personality cult to develop around Corbyn and his Stalinist clique to their shame..
 
See what I mean, this is now happening in Britain. Disgraceful.



PC Plod are an embarrassment, soft and strong policing in all the wrong situations. Hence they accusations of being an anarcho-tyranny-state-police-''service''-force e.g. Derbyshire during the lockdown.

The video unveils them as weak as piss.

Its the far-left that are the problem. They were attacking British Police outside the entrance to Downing St a few hours ago. I didn't see many neo-nazis sieg heiling

You've also just had Her Majesty's Opposition overrun with far-left types. They aren't being investigated by the EHRC for nothing. An accolade they share exclusively with that other caring, sharing party. The BNP.

The reason the far-right aren't discussed in Britain, is not because they don't exist, obviously they do, its because they are shunned and ostracised.

The Labour Party allowed a personality cult to develop around Corbyn and his Stalinist clique to their shame..

Quite correct and because of the Commonwealth and history of interactions with other nations and cultures, Britain is one of the least racist countries in the world. As is the Netherlands (but they can be as snobbish as the Brits too). An ethnic minority person born in the UK or the Netherlands has an equal chance of getting ahead as the indigenous population. But sure, they're not going to be able to achieve what Elon Musk has done as an immigrant into the USA. Regardless of ethnic or religious background.

The cult of Corbyn is weird: a more dour turnip eating kill joy weirdo puritanical absolutist man hole cover collecting pamphleteer shallow as fuck person you could ever hope not to meet.
 
PC Plod are an embarrassment, soft and strong policing in all the wrong situations. Hence they accusations of being an anarcho-tyranny-state-police-''service''-force e.g. Derbyshire during the lockdown.

The video unveils them as weak as piss.



Quite correct and because of the Commonwealth and history of interactions with other nations and cultures, Britain is one of the least racist countries in the world. As is the Netherlands (but they can be as snobbish as the Brits too). An ethnic minority person born in the UK or the Netherlands has an equal chance of getting ahead as the indigenous population. But sure, they're not going to be able to achieve what Elon Musk has done as an immigrant into the USA. Regardless of ethnic or religious background.

The cult of Corbyn is weird: a more dour turnip eating kill joy weirdo puritanical absolutist man hole cover collecting pamphleteer shallow as fuck person you could ever hope not to meet.

I work with several black Africans and, every one has nothing but praise for British democracy and the British way of life. They know that racism exists however, but they are overwhelming positive.

The same cannot be said for Afro-Caribbeans though.

Not entirely sure why that is, even though I have my suspicions.

Labour will take years to recover from the effects of Corbyn. A trip around the darker regions of Twatter lays bare just how rancid Corbynism actually was. People are naive, they think he was a latter day Michael Foot. Think again.

Nick Cohen remains the best critic of the left and its excesses, even though he has been driven slightly deranged by Brexit.
 
Defund the police, sack the lot of them and let the rioting looters, Antifa, drug gangs, white supremacists, rappers, Mexican cartels and decent folk fight it out for control of America, what could possible go wrong:


The "defund the police" phrase seems to be a common slogan on signs no matter where the protests are located and it is a peculiar slogan that cannot have been developed independently. This just seemed illogical that it would be a random thing. "Defund" in proper English means to remove all funding. No funding. No police force. Shut down. So there should be no police. No black police officers either. Who advocates for no coppers?

"Demilitarize the police" I understand. It was the war on drugs that militarized the police. Confiscated cash, assets and property gave police forces the $$$ to acquire their military gear to fight the war on terrorism post 9/11. Every shithole town that the stagecoach once stopped at has at least a part-time cop army it seems.

So, for the hell of it, I went to Google in search of an answer. Who came up with this slogan?

Well, first there is the online petition that celebs and plebs are signing. But the slogan existed before the riots.



Black People Are Dying of Police Terror and Covid19. It is time to defund the police NOW

Black communities across the nation are mourning the deaths of George Floyd, tortured to death by Minneapolis police, Ahmaud Arbery, a jogger who was killed while running in a residential neighborhood in Brunswick, Georgia, Breonna Taylor an EMT killed while asleep in her bed in Louisville,KY, Dreasjon Reed in Indianapolis and Tony McDade in Tallahassee. Their names are added to a devastatingly long list of Black people who have been killed at the hands of vigilantes or law enforcement. Not to mention the others whose names we don’t yet know, and may never know since they were killed without a camera recording it.


Ok, laying out the story of police brutality, violence and killings that should not have happened. No one should find issue with this.

At the same time, the United States leads the world in COVID-19 cases. So far, more than 100,000 people -- enough to fill a football stadium-- have perished from the virus, with over one million cases confirmed, and those numbers don’t reflect all the people dying from virus-related illnesses. Black people are suffering disproportionately from COVID-19, four times more likely to die than their white neighbors.


Yup, true. Just like the aged are suffering disproportionately from COVID too at elevated rates. Not just the black aged.

It is important to state this within the context of the scourge of anti-Black police terror and the resulting uprisings taking place across the U.S. The COVID-19 deaths and the deaths caused by police terror are connected and consequential to each other. The United States does not have a national healthcare system. Instead, we have the largest military budget in the world, and some of the most well-funded and militarized police departments in the world, too. Policing and militarization overwhelmingly dominate the bulk of national and local budgets. In fact, police and military funding has increased every single year since 1973, and at the same time, funding for public health decreased every year, crystallized most recently when the Trump administration eliminated the US Pandemic Response Team in 2018, citing “costs”.


Indeed, the militarization of US police forces is a real thing.

The time has come to defund the police.


Not demilitarize the police, defund the police.

Black communities are living in persistent fear of being killed by state authorities like police, immigration agents or even white vigilantes who are emboldened by state actors. According to the Urban Institute, in 1977, state and local governments spent $60 billion on police and corrections. In 2017, they spent $194 billion. A 220 percent increase. Despite continued profiling, harassment, terror and killing of Black communities, local and federal decision-makers continue to invest in the police, which leaves Black people vulnerable and our communities no safer.

Where could that money go? It could go towards building healthy communities, to the health of our elders and children, to neighborhood infrastructure, to education, to childcare, to support a vibrant Black future. The possibilities are endless.

We join in solidarity with the freedom fighters in Minneapolis, Louisville, and across the United States. And we call for the end to police terror.

We call for defunding of police and for those dollars to be rerouted to create a public national healthcare system.

So it sounds like they just want to stop escalating increasing police funding of a
militaristic bent.

Join us in demanding your local officials take the pledge to:

Vote no on all increases to police budgets
Vote yes to decrease police spending and budgets
Vote yes to increase spending on Health care, Education, and Community programs that keep us safe.


So here they specifically say they are voting to stop increases to budgets and to decrease police spending and budgets. But decrease spending and budgets to what levels? They are also making the point that the police no longer keep people safe. So defund them. Sorry, still a very peculiar use of "defund" especially for intelligent people who come up with these ideas. Somewhere along the line some other intelligent, sympathetic to the cause person would go, "why all y'all using defund and not demilitarize, fix or fuck the police?"

Then there is this take on defunding similar to the above:

In many marginalized communities, police and law enforcement represent harm and terror—not safety. When we defund police, we can invest in Black community-led education, health, and safety programs—funding for schools and youth homelessness services, solutions to the opioid crisis, and non-police responders for crises such as mental health response teams and community violence prevention programs.

So, less cops or no cops?

In my Googling, I found it used by those who advocate abolition of the police as well as those who want reduction of law enforcement budget and re-investment in risk reduction and less policing.

So if cops didn't kill innocents would there be a call to defund the police or defend the need for police? Eliminating the police is as difficult as eliminating systemic racism in police departments.

Who here believes in the abolition of police forces? Not many, no? For those of you who have protested, are you shouting "defund the police" or holding up such signs? For those of us that support peaceful protesting, are you shouting "defund the police" or having an intelligent conversation with others and say "you know, we should really defund the police and spend the money on progressive community engagement and harm reduction. Oooh, the Piniot is lovely isn't it?"

Yes, I understand that "defund the police" could be an inarticulate way to say "take away the fucking tanks dude" so why not "Reform the police", or "the pigs ain't a branch of the military".

Sorry, but I am just literate and skeptical enough not to believe that "defund" has been innocently and erroneously appropriated and spread via the internet by accident. But neither do I think the average protester would agree with eliminating the police if asked the question directly.

But I am in conflict because of my white privilege and elite status so I am not often hassled by the coppers. But my WP does give me the brain cells to rub together to question the use of "defund" and to wonder whose agenda that represents. I don't even have to throw around "far left" or "far right".

Hey, how do you deal with murderers, rapists, thieves and drunk drivers in a copless society? A healing circle?

"Hey dude, killing people is bad, that is why we defunded the police, remember?"

"Oh yeah, my bad, can I go now?"

"No, dude, the counsellors at your healing circle said you had to peel potatoes alongside the executive and cabinet members at Camp 27."

"Please kill me."
 
Good news everyone, the cop problem is solved. Because now the mercenaries have been deployed:

EZidQGVXgAIWKWg


EZidsTnXYAArS1U


So we can all look forward to even more extrajudicial killings, as well as first "disappearances" to occur over the next couple of weeks.

That’s not National Guard and they aren’t wearing any badges or insignia to identify them as police. Doesn’t look like your usual Meal Team Six militia, either. Private contractors?

What’s the background on the photo?
 
Thruth Thruth absolutely. I guess “reduce law enforcement funding and redirect it towards programs that mitigate the root causes of crime” is too hard to chant, but more along the lines how most people here feel.
 
Thruth Thruth absolutely. I guess “reduce law enforcement funding and redirect it towards programs that mitigate the root causes of crime” is too hard to chant, but more along the lines how most people here feel.

Your problems are complex, and require complex solutions.
 
Thruth Thruth absolutely. I guess “reduce law enforcement funding and redirect it towards programs that mitigate the root causes of crime” is too hard to chant, but more along the lines how most people here feel.

I get that but there is still a sinister agenda here at play. That is the deal with protests since the very first protest ever, there have always been those who are agitating for an agenda beyond the issue at hand.
 
That’s not National Guard and they aren’t wearing any badges or insignia to identify them as police. Doesn’t look like your usual Meal Team Six militia, either. Private contractors?

What’s the background on the photo?
I don't know where this is, or even if it's legit/current. It has been all over twitter since yesterday I believe. Apparently when asked, they guys on the first picture said they are "with the federal government", the guys on the second picture said they are "with the DOJ". Both said they are not allowed to say more. People are speculating they might be CBP or BOP SORT. I think it has been confirmed the latter have been deployed, apparently to lock up Trump protect the White House. I personally don't think it's some official agency (but I don't know shit), why would they be in sneakers and Under Armour shirts. Every Cop is carrying thousands worth of military gear and those guys look exactly like they just came back from shooting up some Afghani wedding, didn't even shave/shower and just switched into something more comfortable.
 
This didn't appear on any of the UK's mainstream news bulletins last night. And they wonder why confidence in the MSM is at an all time low.

This is outside the entrance to Downing St.

 
It's true though that 78.3% of all cops are domestic abusers, so it's actually very likely many of them have raised prosties.
 
It's true though that 78.3% of all cops are domestic abusers, so it's actually very likely many of them have raised prosties.

Where did you get that stat from?

After you'd done an extra long line. LOL.

What's a ''prosties'' when it's at home? A lot of people who work in prostitution, hostess, adult entertainment industry, are not all victims. Some make a choice. It's a job/career.
 
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The source for this is POOMA/WAG. Actually it's more like 30-40% iirc. But you can also google it yourself.
 
POOMA/WAG

No, thanks. But if you can post a link. Why did you back track on the 78.3%? So precise and yet, not.

There are the two studies usually cited:


That's not 78.3%. Abuse amongst soldier families who have PTSD is also very high.

Is it the work, or the people who join the police are naturally abusive? Or is it like soldiers, high stress environments break down individuals? Or are soldiers too naturally abusive?

You need more that two studies, you need several.

Edit: unless I am missing some section on the website, several of the sources cited are newspaper and not research papers.
 
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Edit: unless I am missing some section on the website, several of the sources cited are newspaper and not research papers.


1 Johnson, L.B. (1991). On the front lines: Police stress and family well-being. Hearing before the Select Committee on Children, Youth, and Families House of Representatives: 102 Congress First Session May 20 (p. 32-48). Washington DC: US Government Printing Office.

2 Neidig, P.H., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. Police Studies, Vol. 15 (1), p. 30
 
1 Johnson, L.B. (1991). On the front lines: Police stress and family well-being. Hearing before the Select Committee on Children, Youth, and Families House of Representatives: 102 Congress First Session May 20 (p. 32-48). Washington DC: US Government Printing Office.

2 Neidig, P.H., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. Police Studies, Vol. 15 (1), p. 30

30 year old stuff. Come on now, you can do better than that!
 
No, thanks. But if you can post a link. Why did you back track on the 78.3%? So precise and yet, not.



That's not 78.3%. Abuse amongst soldier families who have PTSD is also very high.

Is it the work, or the people who join the police are naturally abusive? Or is it like soldiers, high stress environments break down individuals? Or are soldiers too naturally abusive?

You need more that two studies, you need several.

Edit: unless I am missing some section on the website, several of the sources cited are newspaper and not research papers.

He's pulling your leg, chill.

POOMA/WAG = Pulled Out Of My Ass - Wild Ass Guess.
 

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