Cop Tyranny Thread

Obviously this 'anti-terrorism drill' in the projects was actually an anti-anti-police-nazi stunt.

I wish they hadn't pulled the 'underwear bomber on a plane' stunt however many years ago. Last time I flew, the TSA goon slammed my balls during the patdown after opting out of the radiation shower. :unhappy:
 
LelandJ said:
Obviously this 'anti-terrorism drill' in the projects was actually an anti-anti-police-nazi stunt.

I wish they hadn't pulled the 'underwear bomber on a plane' stunt however many years ago. Last time I flew, the TSA goon slammed my balls during the patdown after opting out of the radiation shower. :unhappy:
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Luckily, there wasn't much dog in the bun to damage.
 
The nazi was overweight and smiled when he did the unexpected ankle to bun 'sweep'. Ironically the first time I flew when the agent asked me if I had any sensitive parts I said "genitals" which pissed him off but he was gentle. Moral of the story, always disclaim genitals as sensitive if you're opting out, and you should if you don't want the equivalent of 300+ x-rays worth of radiation at once.
 
Isn't the level of attention they afford their own astonishing here? I wonder if the same response would be afforded if this was a pair of ghetto rats.

 
NYC's finest at work punching restrained people. Again.

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The one issue that could potentially solve the illiteracy rate, prison overflow, gang-related activities, etc, etc. among the impoverished disproportionately affecting the blacks/latinos. But the only issue the lame politicians refuse to address and are responsible for. The populace that keeps Maxine Waters/J. Jackson Jrs. in office is exploited by the ones they vote for.
 
Bah, the Freakonomics contrarians floated this demented view. Besides being way outside of Overton's window, it just doesn't address why the underclass is so intent on having lots of children. Treating symptoms doesn't work.
 
If we're talking sterilization before collecting any public assistance on a third child or something, maybe. But who's choosing the victims of this genocide? It's a pipe dream unless you go full Hitler.
 
Not really. A few $ is a great motivator to get sterilized. Force sterilize violent felons, that would help too.

These people have too many kids because they have little or no self worth/prospects. When you have nothing to loose, dropping a kid is meaningless. Also, it gives you access to a welfare check.
 
They were chanting “Who’s[sic] streets? Our streets,” and “Arrest the police.”
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I'm pretty sure it is "Whose streets?" there, Chicago Sun Times.
Manney shot 31-year-old Hamilton on April 30 after responding to a call for a welfare check on a man sleeping in the park. Manney said Hamilton resisted when he tried to frisk him. The two exchanged punches before Hamilton got a hold of Manney’s baton and hit him on the neck with it, the former officer has said. Manney then opened fire, hitting Hamilton 14 times.
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http://chicago.suntimes.com/nationworld/7/71/224584/ex-officer-charged-fatal-milwaukee-shooting
This is one of those cases with no winners. Cops checking if someone is in need of help don't need to frisk. Ideally, cops should be able to hold on to their own weapons and not resort to lethal force unless in immediate threat of loss of life or limb. But crazy homeless dude, don't grab for nightsticks and whack cops in the neck. That doesn't end well.
 
OfficePants said:
Not really. A few $ is a great motivator to get sterilized. Force sterilize violent felons, that would help too.

These people have too many kids because they have little or no self worth/prospects. When you have nothing to loose, dropping a kid is meaningless. Also, it gives you access to a welfare check.
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Public welfare's drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare. Hating on disadvantaged poor people with no opportunity other than minimum wage is misdirected.

Makes sense poor people have a lot of children because once they're old it gives them better chance they'll be supported better if there multiple adult children. If you're black and chances 30% or whatever one child will end up in jail, and higher percentage the others get stuck in poverty, well need a lot more of them to support the elderly parent.

Give people an opportunity to earn a non-humiliating living, then they probably wouldn't want a big family. But these social issues are all tertiary symptoms to real problems of society.
 
Sometimes a bit of authoriantorian rule is beneficial to clean up the garbages perpetuated by cycles of exploitation by the "lealeadership" from within. It appears sinister but I imagine the positive result can outweigh the initial negative reactions.

Human nature chooses the path of the least resistance. By putting some enforcement/obstacles, the problem can be controlled.

Now back to topic
 
Pauly Chase said:
Sometimes a bit of authoriantorian rule is beneficial to clean up the garbages perpetuated by cycles of exploitation by the "lealeadership" from within. It appears sinister but I imagine the positive result can outweigh the initial negative reactions.

Human nature chooses the path of the least resistance. By putting some enforcement/obstacles, the problem can be controlled.

Now back to topic
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As long as you're aware you're in the expendable garbage class, then it's ok to self hate.
 
I am unsure if your statement is personally directed at me. But I will attempt to address it by my personal observation.

I have seen the poor when I lived overseas, The poor here is nothing compared to those I have witnessed. People who have to rely on rain to feed their families and have absolutely zero opportunities to advance themselves due to limits imposed by the government. HoweverI I do believe to a certain degree that the current poor here in the States(excluding disabled/mentally challenged/handicapped) is created not the government/society, but rather by themselves. One can argue that years of discrimination/racism led to the current phenomenon, but if the interned Japanese and excluded Orientals can thrive, then blacks/Latinos can also.

I lived in a poor area for the first 3 years in the States (google Jennings, it's right next to Ferguson), and I witnessed every single black stereotype that is portrayed in the media. However the few that tried and worked hard actually persevered and became extremely successful. We have programs in place that help the disadvantaged (specifically targeted at blacks), but due to unknown reasons, they are not been taken advantage of.
 
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I am not advocating the militarisation of police. One of my relatives is in the PLA paramilitary police and I have heard some gruesome stories, I don not believe America will go that extreme since the police departments are separate entities of the military, but it's a scary thought.
 
Well if you think our unsustainable society is sustainable during your lifetime, I can see why you'd think martial law isn't in the cards.
 
Martial law can well happen here. I never said that the society is sustainable at its current stage.
But the dilemma remains why is there disproportionately large black prison population and kids born out of wedlock, and police consistently targeting blacks and not other minority groups (Asians/Arabs/Indians/etc). I think it is an issue that can be addressed and fixed if the culture changed as a whole.
 
Isolated incidents of police shootings will always occur, but that can be reduced if people are willing to address the real issues such as broken down family structure, lack of emphasis on education, missing fathers, kids of wedlock, teen pregnancies.
Evolution arms race can be applied here and the actions are positively correlated.
 
When conditions are advanced enough to require permanent martial law, you and I will not be viewed or treated differently than the people you hate now.
 
"Hate" is rather a word that I wouldn't use. Maybe unfavourable. Couple of my best friends are black, so I don't "hate" blacks.

To answer your question, there is no incentive to punish those who obey laws and pay taxes because there is nothing to gain by doing so.
 
On a separate thought, the anti-burtality protests remind me of OWS in the sense that government fuels the fire, but can't put it out once it got too big.
 
I don't think you understand the severity of global warming or the impact depletion of cheap fossil fuels will have on the global economy and society.
 
I do, indeed. But we are talking about police brutality here, aren't we.?

But since you brought that up, isn't over population somewhat a root cause of the problem you stated.
 
You think police will become friendly if there's no food at the store, no gas at the station, or no water from the taps? Obviously you and everyone else could stay home, roll over and die with a chance to avoid the boot or barrel.
 
I stopped by the memorial for the 2 slain NYPD officers earlier. Very somber/emotional.
 
I despise Guliani enough not to bother spelling his name correctly. However, the firm enforcement of minor crimes, currently called "broken windows," is effective. It is akin to how grade schools crack down on gum chewing and swearing, or how the military enforces saluting. Nip stuff in the bud.
Of course choking some guy over a cigarette tax is clearly overreaction.
 
Russell Street said:
I despise Guliani enough not to bother spelling his name correctly. However, the firm enforcement of minor crimes, currently called "broken windows," is effective. It is akin to how grade schools crack down on gum chewing and swearing, or how the military enforces saluting. Nip stuff in the bud.
Of course choking some guy over a cigarette tax is clearly overreaction.
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Actually, broken windows policing has been proven to be ineffective.
 
Pauly Chase said:
Isolated incidents of police shootings will always occur, but that can be reduced if people are willing to address the real issues such as broken down family structure, lack of emphasis on education, missing fathers, kids of wedlock, teen pregnancies.
Evolution arms race can be applied here and the actions are positively correlated.
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This. Put a fucking father in those black homes and you'll instill some discipline. At least having a parent around more does something. Role modeling is important. If you dad is around, chances are he isn't a crack head junkie piece of trash. He might still be a wife beating piece of shit, but in such a decrepit situation, something is better than nothing in most cases.

Cosby tried to do it, but blacks as a whole need to start judging their own and start holding these pieces of shit that birth kids and take no responsibility accountable.

In this respect poor latino families have a leg up, at least the dudes stick around a bit more often.
 
OfficePants said:
This. Put a fucking father in those black homes and you'll instill some discipline. At least having a parent around more does something. Role modeling is important. If you dad is around, chances are he isn't a crack head junkie piece of trash. He might still be a wife beating piece of shit, but in such a decrepit situation, something is better than nothing in most cases.

Cosby tried to do it, but blacks as a whole need to start judging their own and start holding these pieces of shit that birth kids and take no responsibility accountable.

In this respect poor latino families have a leg up, at least the dudes stick around a bit more often.
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Well exemplified by the last video in streetfighting thread. It's sad to watch those kids just standing around barely clothed watching two hood bitches cussing and violently fighting each other. The social makeup surrounding those kids is pathetic.

You are correct on poor Latino families, at least of the recently immigrated ones. The fathers stick around and instill hardworking ethics and such into their kids and magically they do much better than the blacks.

Barkley and Dr. Carson have recently shared similar ideas as Cosby, and look at how quickly they got shunted.
 
Rambo said:
Actually, broken windows policing has been proven to be ineffective.
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The theory IMO is sound. The execution may not always be the best, as evidenced by the death killing murder of Garner.
My understanding of the NYC crime stats is that they were lowered, but there were accusations of downgrading reported crimes and of course a huge bump in "nimrods using pricey portable devices in public view and getting them lifted."

As for the loss of the family structure, primarily in black families, the fault is with the slutty women. Who would stay around with them? Women have a large role in civilizing men by keeping their legs shut for at least a little bit. Fail to do that and why should men act better?
 
Pauly Chase said:
Well exemplified by the last video in streetfighting thread. It's sad to watch those kids just standing around barely clothed watching two hood bitches cussing and violently fighting each other. The social makeup surrounding those kids is pathetic.

You are correct on poor Latino families, at least of the recently immigrated ones. The fathers stick around and instill hardworking ethics and such into their kids and magically they do much better than the blacks.

Barkley and Dr. Carson have recently shared similar ideas as Cosby, and look at how quickly they got shunted.
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Actually worse: those 2 women were their mothers. Imagine watching your mom rip someone's hair extensions out in public like that.
 
Russell Street said:
The theory IMO is sound. The execution may not always be the best, as evidenced by the death killing murder of Garner.
My understanding of the NYC crime stats is that they were lowered, but there were accusations of downgrading reported crimes and of course a huge bump in "nimrods using pricey portable devices in public view and getting them lifted."

As for the loss of the family structure, primarily in black families, the fault is with the slutty women. Who would stay around with them? Women have a large role in civilizing men by keeping their legs shut for at least a little bit. Fail to do that and why should men act better?
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These people fuck a lot. When you got no money then the last thing you care about is a condom. When you have no dad, you have easy access to young girls when nobody is around. Add an oversexualized culture, peer pressure, and low levels of self esteem and morality: presto, a generation (2 or 3 by now) of unwanted kids roaming the streets.

Yeah, blacks get targeted more by cops, but there is also a lot more criminality in the culture to start with, again, because of unwanted kids roaming the streets, they're going to eventually find trouble.
 
OfficePants said:
Yeah, blacks get targeted more by cops, but there is also a lot more criminality in the culture to start with, again, because of unwanted kids roaming the streets, they're going to eventually find trouble.
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When kids are constantly listening to songs that blatantly state "fuck the police" and watching racism fueled by the media, the consequence is more racial targeting by the police with an increase of black incarceration and deaths.

The only way to change the perception is from within, not from blaming whites or blindly follow Sharpton/Jackson/Holder.
 
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