Dealing with ageing family members

That’s why I asked. Bone on bone = replacement.

Has he maybe looked into some diabetes meds or something like Ozempic/mounjaro? Is he overweight?

He was hospitalized last year after ignoring his diabetes diagnosis for years. I think almost a decade. It was ridiculously high. High 20s mmol/L. He spent a few weeks getting insulin injections and then was able to stabilise under 9 mmol/L using just drugs.

He's not overweight. The heart medication he is able to take is for overweight high blood pressure people and he has always been a low weight, low blood pressure (until his heart started giving out) person. The diabetes medication seems to be the same. So he gets the runs on the diabetic medication every few days.

We're able to get it under control if he observes proper diet. When I cook for him I converted everything to multi grain, bean based noodles, or at least whole wheat. I haven't used potato for him for months. White rice was ditched for wild/brown rice. I usually just make mashed cauliflower/turnip/rutabaga for him. Anyway if he follows the diet routine the drugs are enough. The problem is he started cheating because he had all these other issues so he wanted to eat food he used to eat because he assumed he was dying.

Follow your doc's advice.
However 8 years ago a member of my family was told by a Canadian doctor that she needed a knee replacement but that she could also try an injection and supplements.

She took ( and still takes)glucosamine and chrondroitin and had the injection below. It worked.

They were afraid to give him a cortisone injection because of potential infection. My father said it was a surgeon so my thought is going to a plumber you only get recommendations using a wrench. He's back to the family doctor later.

I'll bring up the injection.
 
He was hospitalized last year after ignoring his diabetes diagnosis for years. I think almost a decade. It was ridiculously high. High 20s mmol/L. He spent a few weeks getting insulin injections and then was able to stabilise under 9 mmol/L using just drugs.

He's not overweight. The heart medication he is able to take is for overweight high blood pressure people and he has always been a low weight, low blood pressure (until his heart started giving out) person. The diabetes medication seems to be the same. So he gets the runs on the diabetic medication every few days.

We're able to get it under control if he observes proper diet. When I cook for him I converted everything to multi grain, bean based noodles, or at least whole wheat. I haven't used potato for him for months. White rice was ditched for wild/brown rice. I usually just make mashed cauliflower/turnip/rutabaga for him. Anyway if he follows the diet routine the drugs are enough. The problem is he started cheating because he had all these other issues so he wanted to eat food he used to eat because he assumed he was dying.



They were afraid to give him a cortisone injection because of potential infection. My father said it was a surgeon so my thought is going to a plumber you only get recommendations using a wrench. He's back to the family doctor later.

I'll bring up the injection.
I wasn't talking about cortisone. It is some kind of replacement synovial fluid. But cortisone is another possibility.
 
I wasn't talking about cortisone. It is some kind of replacement synovial fluid. But cortisone is another possibility.
cortisone is useless when cartilage is not present and functioning. there's nothing for the cortisone to reduce the inflammation on when its bone on bone.
 
One of the many health care people rang my father's mobile and my mother picked it up. She put it on speaker on the dining table. The volume was so loud I had to put on my Bluetooth ear buds to block off some of the noise yet my mother leaned in closer to listen.

In other news my father fell again today.
 
One of the many health care people rang my father's mobile and my mother picked it up. She put it on speaker on the dining table. The volume was so loud I had to put on my Bluetooth ear buds to block off some of the noise yet my mother leaned in closer to listen.

In other news my father fell again today.
Sorry to hear Fwiffo
 
Sorry to hear Fwiffo

Cheers. I wasn't there for the first one. I was there for the second one. The issue is I have the strength to pick him up but he can't stand so it's more of an exercise to get him into a chair or bed.
 
sorry to hear that. is he ok? was it serious?

Yes. It's for his daily weigh in. But with one foot it's hard to balance long enough for the digital scale to read his weight. The weight's used to figure out how much diuretic he needs to fight off the oedema from his heart issues.

The first time he fell just from brushing his teeth. I hope his hip is strong because if he can't survive a knee surgery I don't know how he could survive a hip replacement.
 
Yes. It's for his daily weigh in. But with one foot it's hard to balance long enough for the digital scale to read his weight. The weight's used to figure out how much diuretic he needs to fight off the oedema from his heart issues.

The first time he fell just from brushing his teeth. I hope his hip is strong because if he can't survive a knee surgery I don't know how he could survive a hip replacement.
oy that's sounds like a fucking mess. has he gotten into some physical therapy yet?
 
oy that's sounds like a fucking mess. has he gotten into some physical therapy yet?

A physical therapist came to see him. He suggested to keep exercising even if he won't use the lame leg so he retains some ability to stand. He then suggested a scooter - like one of those where you crouch with one knee (the bad one) and use other leg to walk. Just the thought of that made my father cringe given he doesn't want to bend it.
 
A physical therapist came to see him. He suggested to keep exercising even if he won't use the lame leg so he retains some ability to stand. He then suggested a scooter - like one of those where you crouch with one knee (the bad one) and use other leg to walk. Just the thought of that made my father cringe given he doesn't want to bend it.
Well he’s got to try something.
 
Trying to cancel appointments for your father who is losing his vision. I have a date, time, address, physician name and one telephone number that is incomplete and one that has so many digits I think it is ringing Europe.
 
Got up this Sunday morning. Put on a tie. Started packing all the things I made for Easter lunch and my father is having a Pope Francis/King Charles bad day moment so he won't be attending.
 
My grandfather in law is turning 103 today.

I hope my kids have those survival genes!
 
Why? That sounds horrible!
Dude drank, smoked, gambled and chased women all his life, and is still in amazing health. He only stopped driving 3-4 years ago. Beats the hell out of a slow death from cancer in your forties or fifties.
 
Dude drank, smoked, gambled and chased women all his life, and is still in amazing health. He only stopped driving 3-4 years ago. Beats the hell out of a slow death from cancer in your forties or fifties.
I’m sorry you had a 100 year old person driving a car???
 
My aunt flew in from the west coast and summoned her two daughters to escort her to see another aunt here who is on her death bed.

My mother briefly met with her in her 24 hour trip and I came to realise through my cousin that she forgot her younger sister (my mum) had kids. She was a practising physician two or three years ago. In fact she rang me last year when my mother gave cryptic responses to the maternal family on the status of my father and why we weren't showing up to all the funerals.

All females at this generation are still of the age they can run for and serve as top elected US officials. They aren't even Nancy Pelosi age.
 
My aunt flew in from the west coast and summoned her two daughters to escort her to see another aunt here who is on her death bed.

My mother briefly met with her in her 24 hour trip and I came to realise through my cousin that she forgot her younger sister (my mum) had kids. She was a practising physician two or three years ago. In fact she rang me last year when my mother gave cryptic responses to the maternal family on the status of my father and why we weren't showing up to all the funerals.

All females at this generation are still of the age they can run for and serve as top elected US officials. They aren't even Nancy Pelosi age.
Fwiffo Fwiffo based on admittedly minimal evidence presented here, your family doesn't seem to have a lot of luck with the longevity gene - or at least the morbidity gene. Sorry to hear.
 
Fwiffo Fwiffo based on admittedly minimal evidence presented here, your family doesn't seem to have a lot of luck with the longevity gene - or at least the morbidity gene. Sorry to hear.

My father's father lived till 94. He was eventually blinded by glaucoma and mostly deaf. He drank till he had a stroke in his 40s, was paralysed, and then recovered and switched to beer afterwards. He didn't finish elementary school and spent all he had and lived day by day. But that was also how he survived labour/concentration camp during the war.

I was rather hoping to be like him - certain bits at least.

There is not much cancer so I am thankful for that. All the ones who died of cancer on my mother's side including this dying aunt who survived breast cancer were all married into the family.
 
I was listening the other day to Sky News where the NHS was doing an experimental blood test for dementia. Some woman said she was having issue remembering things and during a test couldn't find the words to describe something. This is something I'm dealing with my mother who plain forgot a trip on the subway to an expensive restaurant that I took her 3 years ago. She subsequently went again to the same subway stop by herself to buy sunglasses so I don't know how she could have forgotten it. But she has no memory. Besides forgetting to make side dishes or leaving side dishes and mains in the oven, she now often forgets her keys, wallet, mobile phone when leaving the door. She has trouble finding the words or names to describe what she wants to convey. Today I found her pressing 1 when going into the lift. I said to my mother we're not in Europe, we're already on floor 1.
 
Oh, my father died the day after the first day of spring or Nowruz.

I should be grieving or crying or angry or....something but honestly the first thing I thought was how to get the body out of my parents' bedroom. Secondly, and selfishly, I didn't want to die myself.

It wasn't like he was fighting for his last breath and we were holding his hands whilst an IV dripped and some machine whirled in the background. He had some issues including water in his lungs around the time the Pope had issues. I joked with him that the Pope is 88 and has half of one lung so you should easily beat this, and he usually does and moves on in a slightly diminished status. You think things are okay for a day or two and then something else pops up and it has been like this for 2 years now.

I wouldn't have said he wanted to die that particular night. Before he slept I told him he'd have to wait a month or two before he could consistently be wheeled out in his wheelchair without a jacket and it's at least 18c. He told me he's looking forward to it. That was before he watched Bloomberg with me when I was clearing the dishes from the dishwasher. He then went to bed. By the time I saw him again his lips were turning blue but his eyes fluttered a bit like REM sleep.

I always said I wouldn't be one of those people who have regrets when it comes to the death of your parent because I would say everything I wanted to say in full force, no matter how blunt and with harsh language so there's no ambiguity in understanding what I mean even if it meant being like the 45th & 47th President. I'd do everything possible and leave no stone unturned. But still there were a few things I could have said that night. He recovered bits of his sight - enough to start watching some YouTube and CNN/CBC to send me links to things he found interesting. He had been practically blind over Christmas. I made sure to comment all of them but I missed one (it was about how mainstream media enabled Trump and his use of 'friendly' media). I also never told him why I didn't want kids. And there were a few other things.

When everything was settled down and everyone was fed that day, I went out for a walk. To everyone else it was sunny and everything was right as rain. I wondered why my father was the one that suffered and these people, why aren't they suffering like he did? Why can't the misery be shared?

Brazil, Israel, Russia, China, India, Belarus, Turkey, USA all have leaders who are in their 70s. Still trying to make their legacy so they can write their memoirs in their 80s or something and then give sage like one liners when they're 99, 100 or 101 like Jimmy Carter, David Attenborough or Kissinger. An old work mate of mine told me during Christmas not to think why it happens to certain people and not others. His own father fell ill suddenly when I was across the pond to see my old work mates (less him) years ago and subsequently passed away that year.

These days I queue at government offices and talk to a lot of people on behalf of my mother to help settle his affairs. People either start or end with "I'm sorry for your loss". "My condolences". It's usually said in an obligatory and scripted tone & manner. Are you really? Did you know him or me enough to actually say that or you're just saying it because you're taught to? At first I winced and found it annoying but I've learnt to use it now to extract compensation, additional fake sentiment or just a repeat of I'm "sorry".

In the meantime I have X months - X being a decreasing number from double digits to now just a quarter to get through everything so my mother can take the bag of money and go to some BRICS nation that I don't even have a visa to go visit because she's fully convinced the West is in terminal decline so she wants to hide in the relative calm of that place until her own death.
 
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Oh, my father died the day after the first day of spring or Nowruz.

I should be grieving or crying or angry or....something but honestly the first thing I thought was how to get the body out of my parents' bedroom. Secondly, and selfishly, I didn't want to die myself.

It wasn't like he was fighting for his last breath and we were holding his hands whilst an IV dripped and some machine whirled in the background. He had some issues including water in his lungs around the time the Pope had issues. I joked with him that the Pope is 88 and has half of one lung so you should easily beat this, and he usually does and moves on in a slightly diminished status. You think things are okay for a day or two and then something else pops up and it has been like this for 2 years now.

I wouldn't have said he wanted to die that particular night. Before he slept I told him he'd have to wait a month or two before he could consistently be wheeled out in his wheelchair without a jacket and it's at least 18c. He told me he's looking forward to it. That was before he watched Bloomberg with me when I was clearing the dishes from the dishwasher. He then went to bed. By the time I saw him again his lips were turning blue but his eyes fluttered a bit like REM sleep.

I always said I wouldn't be one of those people who have regrets when it comes to the death of your parent because I would say everything I wanted to say in full force, no matter how blunt and with harsh language so there's no ambiguity in understanding what I mean even if it meant being like the 45th & 47th President. I'd do everything possible and leave no stone unturned. But still there were a few things I could have said that night. He recovered bits of his sight - enough to start watching some YouTube and CNN/CBC to send me links to things he found interesting. He had been practically blind over Christmas. I made sure to comment all of them but I missed one (it was about how mainstream media enabled Trump and his use of 'friendly' media). I also never told him why I didn't want kids. And there were a few other things.

When everything was settled down and everyone was fed that day, I went out for a walk. To everyone else it was sunny and everything was right as rain. I wondered why my father was the one that suffered and these people, why aren't they suffering like he did? Why can't the misery be shared?

Brazil, Israel, Russia, China, India, Belarus, Turkey, USA all have leaders who are in their 70s. Still trying to make their legacy so they can write their memoirs in their 80s or something and then give sage like one liners when they're 99, 100 or 101 like Jimmy Carter, David Attenborough or Kissinger. An old work mate of mine told me during Christmas not to think why it happens to certain people and not others. His own father fell ill suddenly when I was across the pond to see my old work mates (less him) years ago and subsequently passed away that year.

These days I queue at government offices and talk to a lot of people on behalf of my mother to help settle his affairs. People either start or end with "I'm sorry for your loss". "My condolences". It's usually said in an obligatory and scripted tone & manner. Are you really? Did you know him or me enough to actually say that or you're just saying it because you're taught to? At first I winced and found it annoying but I've learnt to use it now to extract compensation, additional fake sentiment or just a repeat of I'm "sorry".

In the meantime I have X months - X being a decreasing number from double digits to now just a quarter to get through everything so my mother can take the bag of money and go to some BRICS nation that I don't even have a visa to go visit because she's fully convinced the West is in terminal decline so she wants to hide in the relative calm of that place until her own death.

Fwiffs, truly sorry to hear. I know you have been dealing with his decline for quite awhile. Hope you and yours are at peace my friend.
 
I’m sorry for your loss
Grazie per le tue parole di conforto

Hey, Fwiffs. My condolences.
I just let out a big sigh after reading that....

Fwiffs, truly sorry to hear. I know you have been dealing with his decline for quite awhile. Hope you and yours are at peace my friend.
I was pro treatment even if 3 days of treatment hell meant 1 extra day of usefulness. My father was the opposite. There were clashes even up until the Pope's own hospitalization. My mother is on the do not resuscitate bandwagon. If expressing yourself, having a massive argument (and some amount of tears on my father's side) and then not talking about it until the next health issue comes up is peace... I don't know.
 
Fwiffo Fwiffo - sorry to hear. It's hard. Hope you are OK, mate.
Well, I certainly won't have the hubris to dispense advice to others like "treasure the time that you have, don't have regrets" since I didn't quite do it myself.

Stay strong, Fwiffo Fwiffo it sounds like the rest of the family need you more than ever

Cheers. That sort of happened after his first hospital stay. Then the crown was beaten into my head after my brother moved to the suburbs. Of course it isn't like it's a complex Corleone family.

However it would have been different if Wuhan didn't happen and I got promoted to head up Americas or I took that demotion lifeline to the States or my parents had found that year round warm weather refuge in Asia.

Now that I am "retired" there shouldn't be any excuse I can't wrap things up. But I definitely don't want to be an expert at probate and estates even though in the back of your mind you know it will happen again.
 
You’re a good man, Fwiffs.

I wish I had even an undependable sibling. My dad had a stroke two weeks ago and, while he is fine now, it’s not a great sign of his overall health. My mum, on the other side of the world, is dealing with some significant long-term health issues while living alone and closing in on 85.
 
You’re a good man, Fwiffs.
Not sure what to say to that. When duty calls you answer no? I never thought it was a choice.


I wish I had even an undependable sibling. My dad had a stroke two weeks ago and, while he is out fine now, it’s not a great sign of his overall health. My mum, on the other side of the world, is dealing with some significant long-term health issues while living alone and closing in on 85.

A lot of it depends on their mindset. I took a subway and bus and walked to get this device that tells you whether you finished pouring liquid by sound into a cup in preparation for him being totally blind. I told him I saw people going to that centre and the bloke who sold me the device - totally blind. It would be easy for them not to use public transit, not to work selling accessible aids and just pack it in, collect disability and call it a life. But you have to fight every day for your right to live. I told my father that I don't take life for granted. I don't take waking up in the morning as a given. And he broke down crying that it was too hard. He was getting overwhelmed. Of course it is. I said yeah it sucks a good day is you're a .500 team with an even record. It sucks it's 1 draw and 3 losses and you're constantly dropping into the relegation zone. But you have to fight. It's your life, not mine and I can't do it for you.

And then of course both my parents tell me well you're young(er). You can still improve. It's terminal for us. The end of the road. I can't eat what I want. I can't see. I can't hear. I can't walk. Nothing makes me happy. I did everything already. I can't even spend money. I'm on the toilet every 2 hours. I need nappies. I can't go out. It's too hot. It's too cold. I'm exhausted.

But this is why I am not a psychologist or a counsellor. I found myself often saying what I said at work: people can always find a million reasons not to do something.
Do you want to put in the work to use every cheat, hack, medication, physical exercise to persevere? But who owns that? It shouldn't be me, but sometimes I feel like it is.

Anyway that was a long tangent to nowhere.
 

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