Disagreeable Menswear Post Of The Day

InstaHate said:
Pshhhh, I’m named after my uncle and you don’t see me walking around InstaHate II with a magnificent mustache.
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Proof - if any was ever needed - that for a lot of these people it has nothing to do with ‘hobbyists’ discussing the intricacies of clothing and the endless hunt for perfection, it’s really all about ‘look at me you plebs, look at how much wealth I’ve accrued and how much better I am than you!’
 
Great White Snark said:
Proof - if any was ever needed - that for a lot of these people it has nothing to do with ‘hobbyists’ discussing the intricacies of clothing and the endless hunt for perfection, it’s really all about ‘look at me you plebs, look at how much wealth I’ve accrued and how much better I am than you!’
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Different strokes, different folks, but the guys who pursue it to project a lifestyle (real or otherwise) are the saddest of the bunch.
 
Actually I think Alan Bee is trying to set up some sort of bespoke/mtm business. This is all just marketing bs. Not very different than Ralph Lauren or any of these lifestyle brands, just significantly less subtle and tasteful. Closer to Mararo. If you are living that life, there is no need or desire to broadcast it to a bunch of internet clothing nerds unless you want to make some money off of them.
 
FriendCustomer said:
Actually I think Alan Bee is trying to set up some sort of bespoke/mtm business. This is all just marketing bs. Not very different than Ralph Lauren or any of these lifestyle brands, just significantly less subtle and tasteful. Closer to Mararo. If you are living that life, there is no need or desire to broadcast it to a bunch of internet clothing nerds unless you want to make some money off of them.
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It’s possible. Time will tell. But on the other hand it’s not out of the question that these are just people who despite having an enviable amount of disposable income, still have a huge streak of insecurity and need to get affirmation - what better way in this day and age to seek that from (adoring) strangers on the internet. QF that other fella in sausage suits with the Bentley and identical twin kids showing off his wealthy acquisitions at every opportunity.
 
FriendCustomer said:
Actually I think Alan Bee is trying to set up some sort of bespoke/mtm business. This is all just marketing bs. Not very different than Ralph Lauren or any of these lifestyle brands, just significantly less subtle and tasteful. Closer to Mararo. If you are living that life, there is no need or desire to broadcast it to a bunch of internet clothing nerds unless you want to make some money off of them.
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Quite right.
 
Great White Snark said:
It’s possible. Time will tell. But on the other hand it’s not out of the question that these are just people who despite having an enviable amount of disposable income, still have a huge streak of insecurity and need to get affirmation - what better way in this day and age to seek that from (adoring) strangers on the internet. QF that other fella in sausage suits with the Bentley and identical twin kids showing off his wealthy acquisitions at every opportunity.
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You are talking more about what Foo or Snitches do.
 
FriendCustomer said:
Actually I think Alan Bee is trying to set up some sort of bespoke/mtm business. This is all just marketing bs. Not very different than Ralph Lauren or any of these lifestyle brands, just significantly less subtle and tasteful. Closer to Mararo. If you are living that life, there is no need or desire to broadcast it to a bunch of internet clothing nerds unless you want to make some money off of them.
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I always thought he was angling for business reasons.
 
Check this fun influencer out. Do we have any Mexicos here? Didn’t we have one?


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What kind of consulting or coaching can such a doof do?


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No he fucking isn’t. I don’t know what he is, but he sure as shit isn’t a rebel. At best he’s a hobbyist and at worst a cosplayer. Doof.


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Is decapitation an option?

Also, bruh, still a beard. Just a fuckboi beard.


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A bold prediction from a bold mustache, one not allowed within 50 meters of elementary schools and retirement communities.


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#kohls
 
There's like 4 tiers of #menswear influencers on the gram right now.

Shit tier shills: Poor fits, only shill for bottom of the barrel stuff. These are the bloggers that will rave about the latest $150 kickstarter shoes and suits, and will write glowing reviews about those $25 MTM shirts. Just terrible. But they cater to the absolute beginners. And will also mix it up with your run-of-the-mill inspirational #entrepreneurlifestyle BS.

Mediocre mid-level shills: The shills that will mostly post about your entry-level / mid level stuff. Suitsupply suits, Allan Edmon / Carmina / Meermin shoes. They seem to be genuinely interested in the clothes, and are usually what one can call "beginner experts". Pretty bland stuff. Probably junior analysts for some bulge bracket bank, or biglaw entry-level nobody.

Competent #Menswear prostitutes: The people you guys love to hate. Lots of followers, enjoy expensive clothes...but will also sell their body to the highest bidder. Some fits are very good, other fits are piss - doesn't mater - they write rave reviews about everything they're getting paid to wear. They seem to have a fetish for everything hand-made. Their blogs / IG profiles / websites probably provide a nice income. What they do, professionally speaking, is a total crap shoot. But a ton seem to have their background from the same ol' Finance / Management Consulting / Law firms / Tech consultants. Probably went to good schools as well.

The unicorns: The rare and elusive no-nonsense, no-shill, no-hashtag posters that enjoy the good life and immaculate outfits. They also own nice cars and nice properties, unlike the posers above. Probably work in the same industries, or on the boutique side of things.
 
dreamspace said:
There's like 4 tiers of #menswear influencers on the gram right now.

Shit tier shills: Poor fits, only shill for bottom of the barrel stuff. These are the bloggers that will rave about the latest $150 kickstarter shoes and suits, and will write glowing reviews about those $25 MTM shirts. Just terrible. But they cater to the absolute beginners. And will also mix it up with your run-of-the-mill inspirational #entrepreneurlifestyle BS.

Mediocre mid-level shills: The shills that will mostly post about your entry-level / mid level stuff. Suitsupply suits, Allan Edmon / Carmina / Meermin shoes. They seem to be genuinely interested in the clothes, and are usually what one can call "beginner experts". Pretty bland stuff. Probably junior analysts for some bulge bracket bank, or biglaw entry-level nobody.

Competent #Menswear prostitutes: The people you guys love to hate. Lots of followers, enjoy expensive clothes...but will also sell their body to the highest bidder. Some fits are very good, other fits are piss - doesn't mater - they write rave reviews about everything they're getting paid to wear. They seem to have a fetish for everything hand-made. Their blogs / IG profiles / websites probably provide a nice income. What they do, professionally speaking, is a total crap shoot. But a ton seem to have their background from the same ol' Finance / Management Consulting / Law firms / Tech consultants. Probably went to good schools as well.

The unicorns: The rare and elusive no-nonsense, no-shill, no-hashtag posters that enjoy the good life and immaculate outfits. They also own nice cars and nice properties, unlike the posers above. Probably work in the same industries, or on the boutique side of things.
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TheUntermensch said:
Also, if I may just add my contribution to the magnum opus, I put it to you that most of the shit tier shills seem to be Hispanic Americans. Why?
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As an Hispanic American, this is a good question. I don’t know if most, or even many, are Hispanic Americans, but they are certainly over-represented.
 
But with that said, I don't think the gloating rich people are the worst.

The worst would be the piss-poor salespeople that treat "regularly" dressed people like shit, and define themselves (completely) by the clothes they wear. Typically spends half their paycheck on clothes (other half on rent), and enjoy shit talking window shoppers.

I understand that some of the high-end stores only cater to richer clientèle, and that they have a certain image / brand to maintain...but it's ridiculous how some of these minimum wage salespeople will treat their peers.
 
Who deals with salespeople? Do they even exist anymore?

Edit: We've also established the gloating people aren't actually rich. Upper middle strivers at best.
 
New money still gloats but gloats poorly. Old money either doesn’t gloat or subtly gloats (as a way to gloat while simulataneously demonstrating their superiority over new money).

I had the unfortunate fate to grow up as part of an upper middle class striving family (fortunately, both my parents grew up poor so we never pursued any class driven consumption patterns) but surrounded by old money types. The way in which they demonstrate their class status to external audiences is socialized at a young age.

I’m glad I didn’t grow up poor, but ceteris paribus, I think successful individuals (and by success, I mean simply being middle or upper middle class) that grew up poor tend to be better people as a result.
 
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InstaHate said:
New money still gloats but gloats poorly. Old money either doesn’t gloat or subtly gloats (as a way to gloat while simulataneously demonstrating their superiority over new money).

I had the unfortunate fate to grow up as part of an upper middle class striving family (fortunately, both my parents grew up poor so we never pursued any class driven consumption patterns) but surrounded by old money types. The way in which they demonstrate their class status to external audiences is socialized at a young age.

I’m glad I didn’t grow up poor, but ceteris paribus, I think successful individuals (and by success, I mean simply being middle or upper middle class) that grew up poor tend to be better people as a result.
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Related, I've taken to ribbing a buddy of mine his street is Upper Middle Class Utopia. His neighbors all have golf carts, live in Faux Craftsman new builds costing 650k or so, drink Bud Light in the driveway, drive luxury SUVs and vote Trump reliably. One is "considering" a Rolex.

Every time he texts me now he refers to it as Utopia Ave. Olo.
 
doghouse said:
Related, I've taken to ribbing a buddy of mine his street is Upper Middle Class Utopia. His neighbors all have golf carts, live in Faux Craftsman new builds costing 650k or so, drink Bud Light in the driveway, drive luxury SUVs and vote Trump reliably. One is "considering" a Rolex.

Every time he texts me now he refers to it as Utopia Ave. Olo.
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Christ that sounds nightmarish. My general schtick aside, that really, truly sounds horrendous. My parents moved into the neighborhood I was raised in to avoid that sort of place; it’s a distaste I inherited. Christ on the cross, subdivisions filled to the brim with cookie cutter mansions. I get that for some people such a community had its appeal. Maybe you have a large family and it’s almost a necessity. Otherwise, gross. Just gross. You have unforgivably poor taste in the most significant financial decision of your life, so I assume that same poor taste carries over into any other aspect of your life of substance. You watch the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon. You watch TV at least two hours a night. You take vacations to Vegas regularly. Cancun or a cruise once a year. You’ve been to Europe once, and once was enough for you. You read Grisham novels on airplanes but will go to James Patterson in a pinch. You eat at Ruth Chris And PF Chang’s regularly. You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.

The only exceptions to this characterization have with been minority-Americans or Mormon, though in the case of the Mormon family I suspect it was about accommodating a large family.

Fucking McMansion subdivisions. I hope my vitriol was palatable to everyone. It’s one of my little indulgences.
 
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InstaHate said:
Christ that sounds nightmarish. My general schtick aside, that really, truly sounds horrendous. My parents moved into the neighborhood I was raised in to avoid that sort of place; it’s a distaste I inherited. Christ on the cross, subdivisions filled to the brim with cookie cutter mansions. I get that for some people such a community had its appeal. Maybe you have a large family and it’s almost a necessity. Otherwise, gross. Just gross. You have unforgivably poor taste in the most significant financial decision of your life, so I assume that same poor taste carries over into any other aspect of your life of substance. You watch the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon. You watch TV at least two hours a night. You take vacations to Vegas regularly. Cancun or a cruise once a year. You’ve been to Europe once, and once was enough for you. You read Grisham novels on airplanes but will go to James Patterson in a pinch. You eat at Ruth Chris And PF Chang’s regularly. You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.

The only exceptions to this characterization have with been minority-Americans or Mormon, though in the case of the Mormon family I suspect it was about accommodating a large family.

Fucking McMansion subdivisions. I hope my vitriol was palatable to everyone. It’s one of my little indulgences.
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top top rant, excellent tempo
my favourite bit
You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.
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InstaHate said:
Christ that sounds nightmarish. My general schtick aside, that really, truly sounds horrendous. My parents moved into the neighborhood I was raised in to avoid that sort of place; it’s a distaste I inherited. Christ on the cross, subdivisions filled to the brim with cookie cutter mansions. I get that for some people such a community had its appeal. Maybe you have a large family and it’s almost a necessity. Otherwise, gross. Just gross. You have unforgivably poor taste in the most significant financial decision of your life, so I assume that same poor taste carries over into any other aspect of your life of substance. You watch the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon. You watch TV at least two hours a night. You take vacations to Vegas regularly. Cancun or a cruise once a year. You’ve been to Europe once, and once was enough for you. You read Grisham novels on airplanes but will go to James Patterson in a pinch. You eat at Ruth Chris And PF Chang’s regularly. You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.

The only exceptions to this characterization have with been minority-Americans or Mormon, though in the case of the Mormon family I suspect it was about accommodating a large family.

Fucking McMansion subdivisions. I hope my vitriol was palatable to everyone. It’s one of my little indulgences.
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Perchance you don't like suburban living?
 
InstaHate said:
Christ that sounds nightmarish. My general schtick aside, that really, truly sounds horrendous. My parents moved into the neighborhood I was raised in to avoid that sort of place; it’s a distaste I inherited. Christ on the cross, subdivisions filled to the brim with cookie cutter mansions. I get that for some people such a community had its appeal. Maybe you have a large family and it’s almost a necessity. Otherwise, gross. Just gross. You have unforgivably poor taste in the most significant financial decision of your life, so I assume that same poor taste carries over into any other aspect of your life of substance. You watch the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon. You watch TV at least two hours a night. You take vacations to Vegas regularly. Cancun or a cruise once a year. You’ve been to Europe once, and once was enough for you. You read Grisham novels on airplanes but will go to James Patterson in a pinch. You eat at Ruth Chris And PF Chang’s regularly. You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.

The only exceptions to this characterization have with been minority-Americans or Mormon, though in the case of the Mormon family I suspect it was about accommodating a large family.

Fucking McMansion subdivisions. I hope my vitriol was palatable to everyone. It’s one of my little indulgences.
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Top Top vitriol. You speak with the collective voice of Dressed Well dear
 
InstaHate said:
Christ that sounds nightmarish. My general schtick aside, that really, truly sounds horrendous. My parents moved into the neighborhood I was raised in to avoid that sort of place; it’s a distaste I inherited. Christ on the cross, subdivisions filled to the brim with cookie cutter mansions. I get that for some people such a community had its appeal. Maybe you have a large family and it’s almost a necessity. Otherwise, gross. Just gross. You have unforgivably poor taste in the most significant financial decision of your life, so I assume that same poor taste carries over into any other aspect of your life of substance. You watch the Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon. You watch TV at least two hours a night. You take vacations to Vegas regularly. Cancun or a cruise once a year. You’ve been to Europe once, and once was enough for you. You read Grisham novels on airplanes but will go to James Patterson in a pinch. You eat at Ruth Chris And PF Chang’s regularly. You don’t have a single friend who listens to classical music. You watch less than five foreign films a year. You are a boor and a philistine.

The only exceptions to this characterization have with been minority-Americans or Mormon, though in the case of the Mormon family I suspect it was about accommodating a large family.

Fucking McMansion subdivisions. I hope my vitriol was palatable to everyone. It’s one of my little indulgences.
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Interesting observations. Some people like new build estate homes, as they imagine they will have less maintenance issues. They won’t be near public transport(or town centres) but people don’t seem to use that in the USA. ‘Big Bang theory’ is not my cup of tea but I did not know it was considered infra dig. Vegas has no appeal but I would consider Reno as a way into some of the nearby ski resorts in the same way as South Lake Tahoe.

Cancun is supposed to have decent diving along with some of the places in Yucatan. Violent crime would be a big concern though.

I don’t know who James Patterson is. No idea about Ruth Chris or PF Chang either. Most films and cinemas are terrible now anyway. So finding five decent foreign films is a big ask.

As for Mormons, they are not as full on preachy in Salt Lake City. Never went to Provo or any other towns in Utah. Park City does not count.
 
As for cruises, my sister in law loves them. From what I hear, I would only consider an adults-only cruise with P&O or Cunard or one of the better operators. That said, it is a lot easier just go straight to the various ports in Europe. Carribean might be OK. What to do on board might be an issue, stuffing your gob all day does not appeal.
 
doghouse said:
I unload an almost verbatim rant on pitiful suburbanites at least biweekly.
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Urban conurbations are all very well if you're single, looking to score or a barren spinster. I don't understand the allure after that. There are of course exceptions, I wouldn't want to live in the suburbs of Rio for instance. But in general so many things are so much better and yes, nicer here: safe to let the kids play out with other kids, tree lined avenues, houses with driveways and garages, bigger bang for your buck as regards living space, proper gardens, don't have to worry about schools, parking, can access the motorway in a matter of minutes instead of the 20 sets of lights stuck on red to get out of the city, decent supermarkets with car park space, etc, etc.

I have noticed that those chums of mine who remain in the city, most of them childless, with a couple of exceptions, have a condescending attitude towards the allure of the suburbs and remain convinced that a Hague postal code and address will somehow give them an edge in work and leisure.
 
Pimpernel Smith said:
Urban conurbations are all very well if you're single, looking to score or a barren spinster. I don't understand the allure after that. There are of course exceptions, I wouldn't want to live in the suburbs of Rio for instance. But in general so many things are so much better and yes, nicer here: safe to let the kids play out with other kids, tree lined avenues, houses with driveways and garages, bigger bang for your buck as regards living space, proper gardens, don't have to worry about schools, parking, can access the motorway in a matter of minutes instead of the 20 sets of lights stuck on red to get out of the city, decent supermarkets with car park space, etc, etc.

I have noticed that those chums of mine who remain in the city, most of them childless, with a couple of exceptions, have a condescending attitude towards the allure of the suburbs and remain convinced that a Hague postal code and address will somehow give them an edge in work and leisure.
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It might be different in the UK, but most major US cities have excellent urban options for families.

Houston for example.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodlands,_Texas

Vs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_University_Place,_Texas

One is close to Rice, the best restaurants, and the museum district. Houses are actually unique and built at different times with much better materials. Trees actually manage to cover the streets because they are older than 40 years. The other is filled with generic mansions, Ruth Chris’s, and easy access to strip malls.

Nice urban neighborhoods are much more expensive than “nice” suburban ones, but the person who won’t sacrifice a bedroom or two, provided family size allows them, for a house in West U instead of the Woodlands is a person of poor taste (e.g. rather have a rec room and a second guest bedroom than live in an interesting neighborhood).

It isn’t just suburb vs downtown loft in the US.
 
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