Has Vass Lost Its Soul

... just when you think, it cannot get worse with more igent makeups - there is the bomb.

ascot shoes - the creator of the "strangest" creations in the history of vass got banned from sf.

educated minds know, that one of the ascot ambassadors is rogerp, shill titan and the most active enabler and pusher of gmtos on sf. will he get a reprimand? I'm really curious.

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http://www.styleforum.net/t/130044/...ictures-reviews-sizing-etc/20610#post_8743532

ps: thank you sun zi, olo
 
Ascots IG account is always good for a laugh. He must order a good volume since they keep producing those clusterfucks.
 
Ascots IG account is always good for a laugh. He must order a good volume since they keep producing those clusterfucks.
Those fuckers blocked me because once i commented that a pair of shoes looked like abortions.
 
I am completely stunned and shocked at this new weird shoe from Vass. Those Americans at S.F are really butchering Vass. I am sure they must be shaking their heads at Vass....these igents are into designer shoes.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/130044/...ictures-reviews-sizing-etc/20640#post_8752039

Look! A single soled (?) Vass goiser constructed shoe with a close cut waist. Completely and utterly senseless.

Besides, if it is a single sole then how can Vass do goiser, it doesn't seem possible unless they double stitch the outsole in the channel which would be extremely dumb. Nah...must be a double soul, would have to be. Regardless, who on Earth gets a goiser shoe with a close cut waist, that is so silly.

I really cringe and feel sorry for a traditional maker like Vass who have such customers like that. It must be so soul destroying to make for people like that. I think that Vass may be losing it's soul because it has strayed so much from it's original roots of making iconic classics. Nothing beats the iconic classics, all this new igent stuff is just nonsense...completely mindless and tasteless. The classics exist because they stand the test of time, but the igent crowd create sick looking things that are foul.

Igents really need to be stopped by Vass from designing their own shoes. These igents seem to be on another planet, l really don't understand what must be running through their heads. I hope they are not taking street drugs, but maybe it could explain why they are doing the things they are doing.
 
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ascot shoes - the creator of the "strangest" creations in the history of vass got banned from sf.

educated minds know, that one of the ascot ambassadors is rogerp, shill titan and the most active enabler and pusher of gmtos on sf. will he get a reprimand? I'm really curious.

#20625
http://www.styleforum.net/t/130044/...ictures-reviews-sizing-etc/20610#post_8743532

Tell us more about Ascot. The usual British model, I suspect, is for locals to hang around the Northampton factories, get to know the staff and then hoover up most of the resaleable seconds. Ascot is not based in Budapest though.

I would never consider Vass unless I could walk in the door and buy off the shelf. Apparently they do not have all that much in stock though. I also agree that their traditional product Budapesters etc would be the ones to go for but they do not go well with the rest of my clothes. I dont wear trachten.

As for Roger, I have him down as an enthusiast caught up in a spending spree. If he has links to vass or ascot it would be interesting to see how they came into being.
 
Momsdoc is another big shoe owner on AAAC. He does not do photos so much.

He is not such a blowhard as some either.
 
So basically it is just suspicion. I thought you might be able to give chapter and verse. I thought Ascot just took vass rejects, but I have no proof of that at all. An unlikely geographical connection whatever the link. Toronto and Hungary is also an unlikely geographical link.

All I know about Austrian kit is what I see in ski resorts and spa towns. National or city, whatever.
It still looks clumpy and out of place with British clothing.

Roger P? I don't know the fok story. He is omnipresent - because all the old iGent crowd have long since departed AAAC.

I think he likes the attention and likes buying the favoured shoes. I don't see him either as an influencer or a person who is benefiting financially from his posts. I don't know that for certain - but you don't say enough to convince me other wise.
 
So basically it is just suspicion. I thought you might be able to give chapter and verse. I thought Ascot just took vass rejects, but I have no proof of that at all. An unlikely geographical connection whatever the link. Toronto and Hungary is also an unlikely geographical link.

All I know about Austrian kit is what I see in ski resorts and spa towns. National or city, whatever.
It still looks clumpy and out of place with British clothing.

Roger P? I don't know the fok story. He is omnipresent - because all the old iGent crowd have long since departed AAAC.

I think he likes the attention and likes buying the favoured shoes. I don't see him either as an influencer or a person who is benefiting financially from his posts. I don't know that for certain - but you don't say enough to convince me other wise.

RogerPDerpDerp stumps for Leatherfoot in Toronto and for the new guy in Toronto who has a shoe repair business and is now importing Vass to Toronto
 
I can say what I like.

They are still clumpy shoes and don't suit English clothes.

Completely disagreed. When the F last shoes are looked at from 2 feet away they look awkward and not so good, and when looked at 3 feet away when one is sitting down they don't look much better. BUT when looked at in the mirror from 4 feet away (gives a reflection of about 8 foot) they look STUNNING!!! See, imo that's where it really counts, that is what the public is going to see, they see shoes from the distance. The Vass F last effect really is a highly artful shoe that adds extra manly flavour and substance over English shoes, and it improves an outfit of fine trousers and coats. The 3636 and other traditional Vass lasts have great effects on the more heavy casual clothing, impeccable effects on improving the look.

Much of the public wear flimsy looking shoes,and at a distance Edward Green and Lobb can be mistaken for flimsy IMO, but Vass gives a completely unique look...it is solid and well made look that is a work of art when seen from foot 8 feet away, where-as english shoes are just nice shoes. I see my Vass in the mirror and l am wowed every time, but with english shoes it never has that effect. Vass has a special X factor that only comes to life when seen in person...it's beautiful and artistic and organic and warm where-as english shoes are cold and clinical factory looking shoes.

When I see Vass I can clearly see the artisan product, and it makes me warm and fuzzy all over. Vass is all about the look, the manliness and the experience and the organic artisan look (hard to describe). Vass days are the best of all. Saying they are clumpy shoes is really misunderstanding the shoos by a country mile imo, there is so much to these shoos that can't be put into words. Vass are show pieces,and when worn with an appropriate style and last they make clothing look much better than a factory made english or ltalian shoo ever could. Vass lift you so much above the crowd, it make you 20 foot tall and a man of true style. The english shoos just make someone more smartly dressed instead of someone with abundant wow factor.

None-the-less, one english shoo that is delicate and has a stunning effect is the Anthony Cleverley shoo, that is a creation of true genius imo. Took 3 years to create that last, and probably the finest otr last ever made imo....pity it's a factory made shoe...lacks the warmth, BUT it is a grand old man.
 
Shooman, I was talking about the traditional style Vass shoes.

Your man's post has disappeared now. While I agreed that the Budapester jobs were the ones to get, I said that they would not go with the clothes I wear.

Mittel Europa gets short shrift on these islands. Duke of Edinburgh gets away with a Loden coat, but Douglas Hurd got a torrent of abuse for wearing the same type of garment. Only Michael Foot's Remembrance Day coat drew more criticism. Budapesters would get noticed - but not in a good way.

The other lasts are a different conversation. I think the other strand was that the RogerPs of this world are making Vass abandon what they are best known for.
 
For clarification, it is a style issue. Dinkelacker Budapesters or other brands draw the same reaction from me. Styles with a big round toe with a sheer drop at the end. Maybe a big European welt too.
 
Indeed Vass still make hand welted shoes with hand stitched soles.

@Truth who started that rumor about GYW machinery at Vass?
 

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