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Arnathor

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Who remembers this theme?
'Why don't you call when you have no class.'

 

Journeyman

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Very instantly engaging and clearly in the English tradition of witty socially aware lyrics with pop sensibilities, but like Billy Bragg whenever she opens her gob off topic she's extremely unlikeable and puts me off introducing her music to my offspring.

So singers are able to express opinions in song, but once they stop singing and start talking, it's no good?

Or does that only apply to singers with socio-politico-economic views with which you disagree?
 

Pimpernel Smith

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So singers are able to express opinions in song, but once they stop singing and start talking, it's no good?

Or does that only apply to singers with socio-politico-economic views with which you disagree?

Grand standing virtue signaling is off putting in anybody - male, female, gender fluid, cyborgs.

Lily Allen made great fanfare of announcing she would take in refugees. Then when held to account, said she didn't have room in her luxury Notting Hill abode. She went to Calais and apologized on behalf of the UK to some refugees for the role the UK had made in making them refugees. She had no mandate to do that and her tears were phony. Put me off her in a big way.

Her music, what I've heard of it, sounds quite listenable. But I don't listen to Billy Bragg as I can't stand his brand of champagne socialism and lecturing to his audience.

I like my popstars apolitical were possible, when they open their gobs it tends to go a bit skew whiff. Roger Waters is another one who uses his back catalogue to promote some dodgy views.

The days of Red Wedge, when you could for a time, believe they were engaged in noble political causes are long gone. Paul Weller was one of the first to suss out those politicians he was hanging around with had bigger ego needs and a lust for fame surpassing those of rock stars. Then he went and spoilt himself by doing a benefit gig for Corbyn a couple of years back.
 

Dropbear

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Lily Allen writes some great songs. A nice mix of pop hooks, social observation and wry humor. She picked up the legacy of Morrissey when he went off the rails with the self parody maudlin and quasi-racist shite.

 

Pimpernel Smith

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Lily Allen writes some great songs. A nice mix of pop hooks, social observation and wry humor. She picked up the legacy of Morrissey when he went off the rails with the self parody maudlin and quasi-racist shite.

Morrissey has been 100% true to his vision and convictions since the break-up of The Smiths. If you liked him then, no real reason other than living in California to dislike him now. Lyrically still spot-on.

None of his albums contain ''quasi-racist shite'': Bengali In Platforms? National Front Disco? Asian Rut? Listen to the lyrics and they're clearly kitchen sink drama at the level of what is being experienced in Manchester. Today, even.

Many of the streets he use to walk in the 70s and early 80s in Moss Side are now controlled by drug gangs and many based on strict racial and ethnic lines. Is he to be censored for singing and speaking the truth?

He got slagged-off and accused by the NME for draping himself in the Union Jack, about 18 months later the NME were all gushing over Britpop's use of the Union Jack. That was personal as the journalist who started the vendetta had sent a very interesting letter to Morrissey.

Listen to the lyrics and read his autobiography it's all there in absolute clarity.


That is rather clever: mixing The Carpenters with a girly Ian Dury.

It was all done with real style and panache back in the 70s and 80s. This faux-cod gender bending by straight gender neutral masculine guys is all rather lame and tame indeed. You can put on a dress and makeup, but can you wear it well as an act of aesthetic rebellion?

To be fair, Kevin Rowland made the same mistake.
Love Joni Mitchell, as does Morrissey:

 
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