The beauty of Monarchy and Aristocracy!

Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands with further turtleneck inspiration:

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Prinz Bernhard zur Lippe-Biesterfeld, Prince of the Netherlands, Prince Consort to Queen Juliana. He was apparently one of the real-life sources of the James Bond character along with Sir Leigh Fermor, who was featured above, and, of course, Ian Fleming himself. It turns out that he served in "His Majesty's Secret Service" during WWII when he was in exile in London, and it was Fleming who had thoroughly interviewed him for his security clearance.

Note the ever-present white carnation as boutonnière:

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Oh I don't know. I suppose he's just one of those men who was born great, and had further greatness thrust upon him.

Not quite, his Naval career was outstanding and out of interest Noel Coward's In Which We Serve is loosely based on HMS Kelly. He may have been born a priviliged member of the aristocracy, but this didn't stop him from putting the effort in and achieving greatness.
 
More Prince Bernhard goodness:

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So good that he can crack a smile and get away with matching his tie and pocket square. . .
 
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Brigadier Arthur Valerian Wellesley, 8th Duke of Wellington.

This is why you are not supposed to throw anything away, ever:

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Some late-in-life hair sprezz:

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With the Queen:

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when I look at pictures of those extremely well dressed old blokes I realize how ubiquitous full chests and extended shoulders are.

Yet every fashion site mentions how a correct fit is a close fit and no shoulder extension at all. They're really misleading beginners.
 
Yet every fashion site mentions how a correct fit is a close fit and no shoulder extension at all. They're really misleading beginners.
[Insert some gratuitous discourse on the distinction between fashion and style here]

More seriously, though, I hope that you realize some of the fit that you are describing has much to do with aging in one's clothes.

Mortality, the sordid business of living and dying, and making out of that an art by inhabiting your material and spiritual finitude.

Yada yada yada. . .
 
I ascribe it to people rightly steering the proles away from the anoited. I would hate to see a bunch of jumped up office workers impersonating people who matter.
 
[Insert some gratuitous discourse on the distinction between fashion and style here]

More seriously, though, I hope that you realize some of the fit that you are describing has much to do with aging in one's clothes.

Mortality, the sordid business of living and dying, and making out of that an art by inhabiting your material and spiritual finitude.

Yada yada yada. . .

I am very aware of the aging thing, but you see it on new bespoke as well.
 
I was just about to cluelessly write “His son, the 9th Duke of Wellington.” But I realize now that you’re asking for what almost looks like a second breast pocket, yet not quite.

Wow, I’ve never seen anything like it before!

Well spotted, I missed the two breast/one ticket/watch pocket??
 
I was just about to cluelessly write “His son, the 9th Duke of Wellington.” But I realize now that you’re asking for what almost looks like a second breast pocket, yet not quite.

Wow, I’ve never seen anything like it before!
It looks like a jetted, well pocket in which he deposited his (reading) glasses.
 
Wellesley junior looks positively creepy.

And beauty of aristocracy my arse. At least his father had the grace to serve in the military. The 9th Duke is a businessman. That's trade, not aristocracy.
 
Wellesley junior looks positively creepy.

And beauty of aristocracy my arse. At least his father had the grace to serve in the military. The 9th Duke is a businessman. That's trade, not aristocracy.

Many aristocrats were involved in trade, in fact, after the industrial revolution most were.
 
I ascribe it to people rightly steering the proles away from the anoited. I would hate to see a bunch of jumped up office workers impersonating people who matter.

The working classes used to attach great importance to being well dressed and were sometimes well dressed themselves - Sunday Best - despite lack of money and that many opportunities to be suited and booted. It is a lot easier for cashed-up idlers with butlers to be well turned out.
 
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The above sobriquet was an insult used to mock him after the broadcast of Berger's Marxist tome Ways of Seeing.
 
The working classes used to attach great importance to being well dressed and were sometimes well dressed themselves - Sunday Best - despite lack of money and that many opportunities to be suited and booted. It is a lot easier for cashed-up idlers with butlers to be well turned out.

Precisely.
 

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